Mechanics are kikes

When the going gets tough the weak make excuses
You are weak

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I do my own brake pads and rotors. My grandpa is 80 and still jacks his car up for brakes, and oil changes. What's your excuse faggot? Also I just saw a coupon in the newspaper that was 4 brake pads plus labor for $199

I'm electroncis engineer and I've done some work for the automotive industri.
There is no way you can fix modern cars at home without buying a software license + tool for more than 5k.

>Not being your own mechanic
get fucked

I see your gamblerchad
and I raise you one kaiji

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>1016 625
Ford wasn't even born in 1016 retard, do you just have two horses and a cart in your garage?

Change your own brake pads, soi face

I can probably fix whatever your problem is, but that’s because it’s my trade. I have to pay the heat and air new because it’s not. Do you see how this works?

Theres always ebay and thepiratebay. That stuff leaks out eventually

>needs auto diagnostic tool
>doesnt know how a car works
hardware problems only require hardware solutions, of course the estronaut swede bought the story
>nononono you can't fix your exhaust without a computer that tells you there may be a problem in your "engine, carb, powertrain, windows, brakes or exhaust"
you clown

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Doing your own car maintenance isn't a hobby you fucking femboy. Nuts/bolts hold it together. Find the right size tool and remove said nuts/bolts. If you don't have the right tool go get it at autozone. Jesus Christ men today are pathetic...

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>electroncis engineer
I needed software to change pads on my '16 4runner? Well fuck.

sorry 2016 626
numpad is going out from too much nethack

your ass better not ever go out to eat with that vaginal ass attitude fronting as a man

oh lawdy eyes fixes my own car sir. i knits my clothing and churns my milk baby.

faggot

The thing is. The don't. There have been nearly any leaks since the 2010s.
Nowadys the software is locked to hardwarekeys. Only way to use the software is if you have the authorised device for the software

Are you a dumb woman or a dumb faggot? Getting brake pads installed is like $150.

youtube.com/watch?v=Bu-A8YfC4w0

I heard an American proverb once. I love to wind clueless beta males with it. Something like, if you don't know how to fix it, you do not own it. You are just borrowing it from the person who can.

>t. bitter faggot
Seems like you brought a lot of baggage in a thread about car care.
Go finish working that out in r9k

Absolute fucking bullshit. If you need software to spoonfeed you fault codes then you're just fucking shit. 90% of faults are easily fixed or at least diagnosable, even on brand new mercs and bmws. Fair enough, that 10% of difficult problems will require specialist equipment, that's why you get charged specialist prices. If you can't afford the upkeep of a nice car, you shouldn't have a nice car. Just being alive doesn't mean you automatically get luxury. Either educate yourself to fix your own problems on a decent car or buy a pleb box you can wrap your tiny head around

I love working on my car but my mechanic that works from home can get parts cheaper I got my brakes done for 300 with new brake fluid and performance parts.If I wouldve bought it myself it would been 500 at least

Holy shit are you fucking retarded. You can youtube any fucking video and do it yourself.

t. millennial faggot who's never touched a screwdriver

Classic consumer

Nah this is based as fuck. Anything besides simple repairs and replacements are impossible on new cars w/o thousands in tools and scanners.

>hurdur weak man cant fix the 13 computers in is car that went broke hurdur *drinks battery acid*

I'm talking about more complicated things than replacing the exhaust. How often does you exhaust break.
Whenever you try to replace something a bit more complicated you need to update the software in the car.
I had to do this with my car last year when the steer angle sensor broke. Luckily I had excess to the tools and software to fix it

I do love working on cars but that shit starts to add up quick lol

>Yas Forums
>owning a car

i hit the nail on the head huh?

"oh you responded to me. why so defensive?"

absolute girl

>Estronaut

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> shop full of tools - roughly $70,000
> insurance - roughly $10k/mo between company insurance and employee plans
> rent - $1k-10k per month depending on size/location
> salaries - $2k - $20k per week depending on how many employees there are
> constant re-certifications for stuff the mechanic already knows how to do - recurring cost of several hundred dollars whenever ASE says so

Yeah mechanics charge a lot, but it's mostly because their overhead is through the fucking roof. They aren't being as greedy as you'd think. How many mechanics do you know of who are living in mansions on the water?

Was that for both axles?

>Mfw aircraft mechanic
Suck a cock OP don't compare me to automotive cucks

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Chill dude. I'm not talking about diagnostics tools. Whenever you change a more complicated piece of hardware in a modern car you need to "register" it with the onboard computer in the car. Everything has electroncis in it and each electronic module has a unique ID

You only need one nice scanner and those things are universal. Youre probably a boomer who doesnt even know how to turn a computer on

you legit knit your own clothes? No, fuck off consoomer. you enjoy the cost of slave labor like everyone else.

carry a cell phone in your pocket? what kind of underwear, shoes, tv do you have? absolute hypocrite.

Unless you live like uncle Ted, your all circlejerking this shit like its a fad

If you're too stupid to be able to replace brake pads, then you deserve to be kiked lmao.

>oy vey that will be $2000 to install these $20 chinese one size fits all brake pads goyim
Then do it yourself you useless cunt.

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Before my Dad died he took all my brothers and I and told us he wasn't leaving this world with out knowing that his sons could take care of themselves as men.

Took us all out and made sure we knew how to change oil, and change a tire, and other basic maintenance.

I think the issue with millennials, my generation, is a all to large proportion didn't grow up with strong male leads.

Now with this new lefty culture they are trying to destroy male role models even more.

Organic pads are usually $20-35 for the front, Carbon Ceramics are usually $50-70. Back pads are a little cheaper and don't need to be changed as often. Even if your a complete brainlet at grind you pads all the way down to the rotor, your first offense can be remedied by turning them on a lathe, and a subsequent offense requires USUALLY only new front rotors,m $35-50 a wheel. All of this can be fixed with wrench set, a c-clamp. and a floor jack. Were talking like 2 bolts turned per wheel for pads, 2 more bolts for rotors. Maybe a 2 minute youtube video. Jesus fucking christ on a goddamn bike.

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Changing your brakes isn't one of those things.

Sometimes you need specialized tools that is not worth buying to use a single time.

these people are liberal minded with their opinion. nothing will change it.

These dudes are about as manly as chapos acting tough online.

You guys are worse, the government basically forces us small plane owners to not work on our own shit. Im so glad i have a homebuilt that i fly with no loicense, i could never deal with (((inspections))) and (((certified parts))). My plane uses an engine from a VW beetle, i can fly as often as i want and fix it for practically nothing

You have to replace the rotors and the pads. The rotors are the expensive part. Should be closer to $500 for a brake job though. If you're getting quoted $2000, you're the idiot.

*all the way down to the caliper, damaging the rotor*

This idiot couldn't fix a bike without a diagnostic tool a hydrolic lift and a powerwrench.

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Ive done that, its like clearing an oil change warning code. It takes 30 seconds.

their conclusion is that you should have to pay for those specialist tools now.

BRO PAY FOR MY 4 TON 4 HEADED CNC ROUTER EVERY TIME I USE IT.

You're the shit, man. How much would you say it cost in total to build? You don't even need a pilots license? Are you allowed to land at small airports or are you forced to land in your backyard since you aren't a licensed pilot?

Awww fuck off lads... every garage replaces ur battery at the smallest electrical fault ... just as a precaution.... naaa u just been ripped off .... like the real men say fix it yourself ... ye even your 2018 Mazda they are called specialist tools and u can buy them on eBay .... what a bunch of fags ....

just do it yourself cuck

oh wait you cant even do basic maintanence on your vehicle. basedfag

Most general maintenance doesn't fall into that category. Changing your oil, brakes, air filter, spark plugs, etc. Should be done with normal tools that you can reuse often, because you'll be doing that sort of maintenance on every car you own.

You're fucking retarded. Sorry you don't know how to test if a circuit has faulted without a fucking computer program. You absolute pleb.

Most auto manufacturers actually publish their updates and etc publicly for ecm, ecu, etc

>Mechanics are kikes

Be Femanon
Choose white collar, urban dwelling, apartment living lifestyle
Never take any interest in mechanics
Too lazy to Jewgle "how to change brake pads"

Seriously, you can't even do a simple job like change your fucking break pads. You could go to auto zone and get those cheap $20 chinese pads and change them yourself. All it takes is a saturday afternoon and the willingness to get a little dirty. These are simple maintenance tasks anyone could do. You should have a basic set of tools any way. Be self sufficient. Do your own work. Be inquisitive. Be a man.

why you gonna throw your car away after you fix it?
explains the state of brazil
>id rather spend another 40k instead of 40 bucks
this is how favelas fill up so rapidly

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Lol consoomer cope

so many problems stem from lack of fathers

um, literally every trade is like this.
Every single one.
>oy vey that will be 400 to replace that wall outlet that took 20 minutes and 2$ in materials
>oy vey that will be 600$ to unclog that drain that I just poured to draino down
>oy vey that will be 15k to replace that siding that took 50 labor hours and 2k in materials
Every single one.
This is why the get a trade skill meme exists.
Tradesmen are a legalized racket which almost anyone can be as long as you're willing to jump the hoops of licensing and such.

Stay mad ya thick cunt. Don't hate me because I've built more track cars than you've seen pussy, pleb

>Sometimes you need specialized tools
lol wut? Since when is a ratchet set classified as 'specialized tools'. That and half a brain will cover 99% of your mechanical problems. Also if your not a complete fag you can just borrow the tools for a day.

Then if it's that fucking impossible the mechanic kike then has set his rates commensurate with the service he provides, so stop bitching. God.

When it comes to anything automotive, the fucking consumers are the most ridiculous and entitled of any in any industry. Ask a mechanic, an auto parts store clerk, a roadside assistance dispatcher, the tow driver he sends out, they'll all tell you, the amount of bullshit we deal with is insane, we will all confirm it and we all have horror stories.

Oh, it cost maybe $15k. You technically need a license but fuck that shit because i live in the country and land in cornfields. The cost of aircraft is inflated to ridiculous levels because of (((faa regulations))). You can get a full scale replica of the fokker dr i for $8k, not including the engine.

Are you poor? Quality tools that last a lifetime, and come with a lifetime warranty cost money. I then double charge you to pay for them and they make the job easy. You're charged for 6 hours book and I did it in 2.
This

>There is no way you can fix modern cars at home without buying a software license + tool for more than 5k.

Why are you buying a "modern" car. Buy used after it has already depreciated.

case in point

Fuck aircraft (((maintenance))). I could afford a small plane if you fuckers didn't force me to basically re-haul the engine every year.

>You have to replace the rotors and the pads
Not necessarily. Modern rotors are good for well over 50,000 miles now. Also faggot OP said "pads." Anyone getting quotes 2000 for just pads has to be a woman or a homosecs. There is no other possibility because no one else would be that dumb.

I have a shitbox I got free. It's cashed out but has a few years left on it. Changed fluids, filters, and some minor parts on it. Swapped coils and cables. Fucker runs like new but looks like shit. Even has better fuel mileage now. Most people can't change oil, so yes fuck them because they can't even comprehend a search on how to manage or fix their own shit. They treat it like it's magic.

>$20 brake pads
It's like you want to die.

Snapon is the best. Craftsman tools made in B.C.(before china) are good too. Keep that in mind if you go to a boomers garage sale

lol

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can confirm

HAHHAHAHAHA YOU LYING FAGGOT

I JUST FUCKING REPLACED BREAK PADS AND ROTORS ON A 2019 FUCKING TRUCK AND EVEN REPLACED A FUCKING PUMP

FIGHT ME NERD

not too bad and flat rates for as much as possible is the way to go.
Know what you can do and in what amount of time at what cost and charge what that nuber is.
Some jobs will be cheaper and quicker others longer and tougher but everyone pays the same reasonable price regarless because a lot of the time the difficulty of a job can't be determined till you actually start and have sunk a cost.

Take the homebuilt pill. No regulations of any kind. Plus so y lent bitches cant put the kits together so it keeps the retards out
airdromeaeroplanes.com/FokkerDr-1{Fullscale}.html

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I don't think mechanics are really all (((mechanics))) but I will say this:
It's the only fucking trade where 50%of the time they'll fuck something up and not only expect you to buy the parts to fix it but the cunts put labour on it too. Cunts.

sounds like complicated bs that tend to be in "nicer" higher end car brands. just buy a a new shitbox. Those are pretty straight forward and don't require some stupid check sum to let the ecu know you're installing genuine Mercedes brand fuel injectors. If you buy a new higher end car than be prepared to pay higher end maintenance cost after the lease is up.

talk to the feds. or do a experimental and make your own maintenance requirements

I guarantee that most of the faggots here saying you can fix any car haven't fixed a single car, the others own decades old cars that are all mechanical. The problem now, as swedebro said, is that there are all sorts of computers and electronics that can turn a simple fix into a bricked car. New cars are like this by design. The only people that know and have the ability to fix certain problems are the dealers. They also design them to be a pain in the ass to stop people from even wanting to fix them. Need to change the battery? You need to unscrew your trunk lining. Need to change the oil? You need to remove the air filter assembly first (both are true on my bmw). It's all a moneymaking scheme by the car companies.

Did you change the timing belt? That will double the engines lifespan. Also hit up junk yards for body panels and interior parts

this
you can fucking kill it on tools at boomer garage sales, every single one has at least a box of shit, most of it american made
in their time that shit was pretty do or die

Oh jeez my ratchet set is fucking specialized I guess lol

>plugs in scan tool
>list of data and failures

>The problem now, as swedebro said, is that there are all sorts of computers and electronics that can turn a simple fix into a bricked car.
Not on fucking brake pads you stupid queer.

>itt: a bunch of retard neets pretending to be men

I'm an electroncis engineer. Testing if a circuit is fault or not is on of the things I do for a living. It's not that easy and most automanufacturers don't publish much

It's my next project however body is shit. Rusted to hell from salt use by the county. It's my beater till I get a decent newer used car.

Why the fuck would you own a bmw? Those things are designed to fleece the upper middle class yuppies of their money for five years and then tyrones when he buys it to flex on his homies after the lease is up

my brother is the man all these dudes are larping as. can fix any house hold appliance, vehicle, a warehouse full of heavy heavy heavy machinery, and he can cook like a fucking pro.

I have never and will never catch him talking like these fags are now. He's happy to help teach with all of those situations (not at the drop of a hat obviously).

These guys prob make 15/hr at an auto shop wearing the dickies outfit, thinking their uniform is as worthy as a navy seals or some shit

Judging by the responses a lot of people here are too stupid to know the difference between replacing a worn brake pad and replacing an alternator or tcs or anyone of the other things that have had chips slapped on them that can cause cars to malfunction or cease to function due to a simple communication error between parts.
Most people should do things like rotating tires changing brakes, topping off/replacing fluids as needed. These things are called maintenance not fixing.

theres not that many vehicles that have a timing belt
do you know if he has one?

I got a full size lathe from some dead boomers estate sale for $250

Cornwell are actually pretty good too. They're a fair bit cheaper than Snap-On and surprisingly good quality. Also made in USA too. I have a couple socket sets, torque measurers, and a pneumatic gun from them and they haven't failed me yet.

$2000 brake job? You moron.

Do it! Fuck the consumerism jew. Fix the body with junkyard panels and make it a new car again!

slide thread

Coolest thing I've seen in years. Seriously considering buying a kit now, I'm just not sure if I'd be capable of assembling it, in a way that I'd feel safe flying.

Where'd you source an engine?

you mean buy certificates. its like someone is looking to make tons of money by making what you do another language and just fucking you with it. trying to charge you shit tons of money

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All of them do unless its something from the 1930s with a gear driven pushrod/valve in block valve train.

fix your fucking brake pads goyim

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