Italy is a bankrupt state and should accept the conditions imposed by an existing financial support system: the European Stability Mechanism.
You cannot keep splurging taxpayer money to buy votes and expect your neighbors to support you unconditionally.
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Italy will stay enslaved unless they reclaim the ability to print their own currency
When italy printed they had double digit interest rates.
>interest rates.
what does that have to do with a sovereign nation having its own currency?
Looks like lofoten
Italy saved hundreds of billions when joining the euro due to low financing rates both public and private.
ALL European countries are bankrupt states
every white nation has negative money. some by billions. some in particular by trillions.
does it even matter? money means nothing. it's backed by nothing. it's printed from thin air by jews.
just stop thinking about it. it literally means nothing and the quicker people realise that the quicker we can move onto the next stage of crashing this plane
yes, they've had quite a party initially
but after the GFC? and ten years after that?
>youtube.com
>European Stability Mechanism
>Shut up while you're getting raped
Get out while you still can.
no they didn't. that's financier propaganda.
they saved those figures in non liquid terms.
none of that trickled down to 99% of italians, whereas the effects having a weak lira in an economy based on tourism, agriculture and exporting manufactured goods absolutely would.
Italy economy isn’t based on international tourism, it’s low single digits in gdp. It’s the second industrial hub in europe, mostly sweatshops.
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statista says it's 13%
That’s why I said international tourism.
It was 50 billions in 2018 over a 2 trillion gdp so 2.5%
No.
Why would they bother when Greece did fuckall and still continues?
Italia should be pillaged and so called Italians taken as slaves
t. piteco
Senti del corvo
Non è che siccome siamo in quarantena sei al sicuro eh
Le sinagoghe posso sempre prendere fuoco,accidentalmente.
Su minecraft ovviamente.
Yeah it does. I live there but i never leave my house so i am not sure but i think it is in my home town Svolvær
i unironically want my country to burn to a crisp
why?
wut
Tourism is cancer! As well as all the muh-tourisn normies! Madonna puttana!
Fuck off
Also... we'll keep spending as we like because. We have special status because we are the home of the Roman Catholic church and are the only stopping force of evil in this world.
cause it's a crumbling pile of shit.
another bridge collapsed just yesterday, people wonder why no one wants to have anything to do with us
we deserve direct foreign control, it's literally the only way
Immagina pensare che qualcuno ti sostenga in questo covo di ritardati sovranisti
Kek, what a cuck. I hope corona reaches you soon so you will beg the state to save you just before your lungs pop
It was a bridge designed and put up relatively quickly to spend some money the government was throwing around. They do the same shit here except they just build flat roads to nowhere that wind up developing car breaking potholes within weeks.
You can do the sensible choice and accept Chinese help with your debts.
>we deserve direct foreign control
by being in the eurozone, you guys are already under foreign control
we're not, shitalian politicians/bureaucrats run the show
most of our infrastructure was built in the 60s and 70s and has never seen a day of maintenance.
bridges collapsing, schools falling apart, moldy hospitals, shanty buildings. heck they never even bothered to build highways or upgrading the railways in the south
>politicians/bureaucrats
you know who's above them?
international (((bankers)))
Similar situation here.
You don't want Chinese construction, though.
Yes but you must know that the italians like to complain, because everything is handed to them, and if something goes wrong they immediatly compare themselves with other nations saying that we suck etc. We live in a corrupted nanny state whose inadequancy is fueled by the low morale and high individualism of the average italian, who thinks himself entitled to services that he deems given for granted everywhere but they really aren't, and anytime some butthurt nordcuck spergs about "muh shitaly" obviously instead of telling him to fuck off, the average italian agrees, bows his head thinking that they're right, and the charade goes on. Just look at the terroni now, they work (when they do) in unlicensed jobs, while also getting check after check from scamming the revenue agency, they're tax evaders, but when they can't work anymore due to quarantine obviously there's no union to back them so they chimp out, break into supermarkets, cause riots, because they want more gibs
You're free to leave, calogero, America and its endless opportunities is waiting
100% correct. Aussies are the best.
Fuck the faggot OP, go suck mummified clits of Lagarde and Merkel if you love being an euroslave so much.
We will crash this satanic Union with no survivors before perishing, faglord.
Sounds like the perfect storm.
Need to manage the chaos where is needs a little push this or that way and just let it ride.
You Italians need to learn how to dance with the devil instead of making a deal with it.
That sucks balls to have your monetary policy dictated by other nations.
I hate Chink influence but we can float the CAD how we want and have one friend we can count on. They get cheap ore and we build things that matter together. I used to work for Deere and my company is American. They’re cool.
people completely lack ambitions in this country and are content with the status quo
go ask your average meddling economics or political science student what his aspirations are, chances are he'll openly tell you "voglio lavorare al comune, mio padre ci lavora non, si fa un cazzo là"
Italy should just print it's own fucking Euros until the EU gets upset and kicks them out.
Most people in any country are fine with the status quo. You think it's not like that here?
'it*ly' is a made up fake country 10 times more dysfunctional and dysomogeneus than Yugoslavia ever was.
The solution for Lombards is only independence. It worked for Slovenians and Croatians, it will work for us.
Are you Bruce from the other thread with booze and Chinks? I want Italy to stop being a fag and fix his shit. No more fugees and develop your people.
Italy is the third largest contributor to the EU after Germany and France, Italy receives zero help from the EU. The best thing for Italy is to leave the EU and keep the billions it sends to mostly Eastern Europe.
Actually Italy (and all EU countries too) could something similar, but our ZOG handlers in the government refuse to take any single measure that could be effective to help us because they have the specific task to bankrupt us and sell us to (((international financiers))).
This is preferable. It means Italy can export goods at a higher margin.
Money is horse shit. All that matters is manpower, how smart that manpower is, ore, energy, and agricultural capacity.
That’s the end of it.
Don't know what you're on about.
But I concur, many Italians are fucking idiots. But then again, just imagine how much more other populations are fucking idiots.
I think we would find that Italy doesn't need a whole lot of governance in place, it just needs enough here and there so to let the population govern itself. Seems like much of "Italy" actually just gets in the way of Italian life.
What about Lombardy stopping sending 100 billion euros per year in free gibs to Sicily and Naples ?
An Independent Lombardy would need foreign aid just like Eskimos need foreign supply of ice.
God damn 'it*ly'
This is the labour theory of value which is a Marxist fallacy. The value of goods is not derived from the labour to produce it but from scarcity.
I'm 100% Italian by blood and a full Italian citizen. I want to get the fuck out of Australia since it is run by chinks. Am I welcome to come to Italy or not? Unironically.
With powers like Russia and China, with their authoritarian ways as epitomized by Putin and Xi, it's difficult not to see through their spheres of influence and take notice of how Russians, and Slavs in general, actually do need authoritative figures constantly telling the to not shit the bed, same goes with the Chinese. Other countries need not follow suit, they should just take notice of how not to do things like them.
>let the population govern itself.
absolutely not they need the whip
i wonder where all that money goes, cause it's literally third world down here
You'd need quite a bit of money to set yourself up over there. Maybe start a human trafficking business INTO Africa.
That’s right, Mario
Now pay debts, you onion smelling shittoilet
They need the whip but not that much, no where near as much as other populations. Mussolini over did it with the whip and he got hung by internal forces that eventually got him because he overextended with the whip on too many occasions.
>now pay debt
Okay, Jew.
>The value of goods is not derived from the labour to produce it but from scarcity.
Made In Italy has always been a scarce seller.
Oh yeah Ambreus? Tell me, how are you supposed to survive on your own if you have to import literally everything from other regions? Food, oil, steel, manpower, money? You are a financial and industrial hub that is so specialized nowadays that it will be impossible to be able to be indipendent without having to pay ludicrous fees from other nations.
Maybe you should have left the eu lol
Demanding eurobonds instead of using them ESM proves that Italy just wants gibs instead of help.
Italy's debt to gdp is 130% I don't know anything but I'm pretty sure that means they can never pay off their debt. Also most of their currency probably came in through tourism and therefore remained off the books, allowing Italians to survive, but now tourism is kill and they're totally fucked. This is a big problem with the euro currency since Italy no longer has control of it's own currency. If you can't even print your own money "I care not who makes the laws."
mussolini lost the people the moment he became a german puppet (forced by the circumstances admittedly)
unfortunately the barbs up north had to give absolute power to a complete maniac, things might be different now
non sei mai uscito dal tuo buco di paesello eh? smettila di umiliarti online con la tua inettitudine ed esci da casa di tua madre.
If you are a Siculo-neapolitan please stay where you are or at least do not immigrate to Lombardy. Thx