When exactly did it become "gay" for men to care about their appearance?

When exactly did it become "gay" for men to care about their appearance?

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1955

10,000 B.C

When we realised that men who care about their appearance were overwhelming homosexuals.

western society fell sometime in the 60's when they abolished the gold standard and was further cemented when we lost the war in vietnam. everything since has been abject failure, normal people literally cannot afford to dress like jimmy stewart here, the american dream died in the 60's. you can thank communism, third wave feminism, mass importation of the third world and the fiat dollar.

It's not gay to care about appearance. Its gay to obsess over appearance and fuss over the smallest of details about it.

caring about your appearance is not gay.
dressing like a fucking faggot is.

since anceint times, based tribal warriors would run into battles naked while pussy empire slave worried about how they looked to cope with their family being stolen

Suits and ties are expensive and uncomfortable. Unless I'm going to a wedding or a funeral, I don't wear suits.

>Jimmy Stewart
It is Cary Grant. Otherwise based.

>normal people literally cannot afford to dress like jimmy stewart here
You literally can. Look at any picture from before 1950 and all the men will be properly dressed, but the common man didn't own 20 different suits. The common man today has much more purchasing power than he did a hundred years ago, so you can't tell me it's impossible to buy a couple of decent suits and a coat. Just don't be a degenerate consoomer.

"America" was/is supposed to be one giant mega city controlled by the New World Order. Sure, white Americans took the constitution literal, and made their claim for 200 years, but that idea was destined to fail. In the future you'll see more support for veganism even though the elites eat raw meat and dairy, and living in rural areas will be illegal.

You are supposed to care about your appearance you retard. No one wants to be around a fat smelly hobo

When they started dressing like faggots and 12 year olds.

Probably when they started dressing gay.

after this at some point

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When did construction workers ever care about wearing a suit?

When the appearance men started going for was "gay"

>taking advice from muhammad the swede
here in america, it would be literally impossible to dress in a fashionable suit and tie as a middle class citizen. all of the ancillary businesses that would support such an endeavor have vanished. the tailors, cobblers, hat makers, cleaners etc. have all vanished. what was once taken for granted is now a luxury afforded only by the very wealthy.

Nobody's gonna wear a suit or even dress shirt and slacks to a dead end job that would replace you in 15 minutes the first time you call in sick. And nobody is gonna dress to impress women who are 70lbs overweight single mothers with gaping roast beef caverns who won't even cook you a meal. Why waste the money and effort looking good for a world that doesn't give a shit about you, that's actively trying to extinguish your spirit and agency? A t-shirt and jeans is fine.

forget all these submen
real men respect themselves and dress well to express so
this thread is now /fa/ should've been if it's not filled with cringe

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hows america working out 4 u, pedro?

Vikings spent a lot of time grooming. So do men in Islamic cultures. It might actually be the opposite of what you're saying. 'Civilisation' encourages men to care about muh Emperor, muh laws, and look down on 'petty' things like their look and their wealth.

/fa/g's

>the tailors, cobblers, hat makers, cleaners etc. have all vanished
There are three tailors, two cleaners, and one shoe guy in my town. I took a leather jacket to the shoe guy (the tailors wouldn't work with leather) to have a zipper replaced and it cost me $50. Cheaper than buying a new one but I also could have just got a cheaper jacket with a functional zipper.

When the jews made it that way. Just anothe way to demoralize men

When they let open fags start deciding fashion in their own taste as opposed to what they thought people wanted

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i guess in a weird way this is what i mean, the services aren't in demand so the cost goes up. $50 for a zipper seems crazy to me to be honest.

Nigger you can get a cheap suit for less than $100. Make your food at home for two weeks instead of going to McDonald's and you can afford it. Obviously you can't get a custom made, tailored suit for cheap, but it wasn't cheap 100 years ago either. The point is, you can dress decently for little money and you can get by with a rather small wardrobe.

What type of pants are those?

both of which are descended from rapebabies and germanics (and some celts) were monogamous chads

so you walk around sweden looking like reviewbrah huh, i bet you own a fucking fedora

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the US dollar was stronger in the 20s than it is now. A dollar could buy a lot more then than it could now. Inflation and currency devaluation as a result of moving to debt-based IMF controlled currency systems

look at girls. it's half of what they care about.

take estrogen. suddenly you're obsessed about appearance.

it's not masculine

This is exactly it. Globalism and Jewish capitalism intended to make the average Joe feel worthless and expendable, so he started dressing like a worthless man. No properly tailor slacks or a well made cotton dress shirt, just some mass produced sweat shop sneakers, a graphic t-shirt and some blue jeans. A depressing decline.

Since men's fashion was put in the hands of homos and only the fruitiest of fruits kept paying attention to fashion trends.

in 7-12th grade. and then no longer after that.

I actually sell suits and suit separates, if you wanted a custom suit from Men's Wearhouse it'd cost you $395 ($425 for big and tall) you'd pick your fabric, lining and all. Your fit, and your style too. It is a very good deal considering bespoke suits range from $600 to $4000 normally.

You also wouldn't want to get tailored clothing when your weight fluctuates wildly due to HFCS food gaining you 20 pounds and desperate crash diets losing it again every few months.

Germanics and Celts cared about their looks and wore jewellery.
Civilisation is the act of caring about your lawmaker more than your look. Going around as an ugly peasant servant for the Kang.

Isn't that just how american suits look?
But if you want to dress like a nigger that's fine, don't make any effort to look like a respectable white man.

gay ass spam filter is trying to silence me, this post had dubbiez and was correct

i got a 2000 dollar suit made one time. it was a complete waste but i felt like i was wearing a 2000 dollar suit when i had it on.

Interesting how all these things begin during the 1970s.

left: sociatial acceptance before self
right: me me me me me me

Was it your first?
I'm sorry you feel it was a waste. I hope in the future you get another suit and you fall in love with it. Men look more like men when they wear suits. Just my opinion though

So don't eat nigger food? Jesus christ what is wrong with you burgers?

when jews started de-evolving the family unit through media.

It is literally impossible to avoid unless you make everything from scratch. And I mean the most basic raw ingredients of food.

no i loved the suit, but i try to put my limit at 700 now.

When the elites that control fashion and culture became infested with faggots.

nah. just spend your money on internet, porn, and overpriced cars and insurance.
looking professional doesn't matter....

>When exactly did it become "gay" for men to care about their appearance?
1770 you dandy.

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Oh okay I misread your post. Yeah I agree find a more reasonably priced suit for your needs I never reccomend the most expensive suits we have because thats just too much for a guy to jump into.

And what is so difficult about that? Get some mince meat, onions and garlic, whatever spices you like, fry it, add some flour and water if you want a sauce, boil some rice and you have a meal cooked from scratch that takes less than 30 minutes.

You don't understand. The average American doesn't know or care about anything related to nutrition, we eat what tastes good, on top of that we've been lied to through our schooling system since the Carter administration with the grain-centric food pyramid. 90% of food in the super market is processed in some way, or contains corn syrup or "vegetable" seed oil, unless you go to a health food store and know what to look for, you're pretty much eating poison.

>ankle length pants
Did anyone tell him those are for women?

>Asks why straight men don't care about appearance anymore
>Uses the most famously closeted actor in history as evidence

>all men wear suits
*tips fedora*

in 1624

everyone was chad before

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all true, except people after the war couldn't afford it either, and yet they tried. The Idea that not caring is fine was a hippie thing. boomers made it commonplace

>When exactly did it become "gay" for men to care about their appearance?
when "caring for your appearance" began to mean shaving of all body hair, not working out so you won't look to massive and using chemicals to replace your natural odor with parfumes.

This is a false dichotomy that implies men didnt care about their appearance before. Metrosexuals are just faggots in denial.

>mfw Dandies were just aristocratic bugmen

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Not when I have bills, mortgages, groceries, and taxes to pay first, all the while working blue collar to survive. Go fuck yourself dumbass Swede, Dixieland is the only place where men still exist.

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>dat D-guard
Man that is a sweet rapier.

The Onions lords are too lazy to groom themselves and so they sit around making fun of people who look better than them to make themselves feel better.

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Dude you can still afford to dress well even if you have next to nothing. You can find quality pants on clearance racks for less than $10, if you get them tailored they fit like a charm. Shirts aren't crazy expensive too if you wait for deals. A good suit will cost you more, but that's more of an investment. You pay $400-800 for a clearance designer suit or get them custom made and they can last you many years. It's all about taking care of your shit and being smart about your purchases.

Google 'Demob suits'. The UK govt could afford to give away either a double breasted three piece pinstripe suit or a singe flannel suit to all ex-servicemen despite being in the economic dumps post ww2. The average joe at the very least wore a cotton shirt and slacks when he left the house up until the 1970's.

>shaving of all body hair
Gay

>not working out so you won't look to massive

The obsession with muscles actually started with faggots. Most faggots today are actually obsessed with gyms and muscles. In the past men cared more about fitness than "lifting".

>gets BTFO
>tries to switch to insults
please drown yourself in the nearest toilet

ironically, most hard gay men go for the rough, muscled body type
they are the ones to worship manliness the hardest