USNI Suggests Sponsoring Privateering Against Chinese Shipping

...You mean there's a chance that in my lifetime I will be able to get a letter of marque against the chinks?

This is potentially the best timeline.
I can be a privateer and kill chinks.

you potentially get everyone involved very angry, not just the chinks, but their trade partners as well.

>you potentially get everyone involved very angry, not just the chinks, but their trade partners as well.
So Africa and Iran? Cause that's where they source most of their raw material imports. Why do we care what they think, because spoiler alert they already hate us and shoot at us.

Its a brilliant idea. It forces China to expand far more then they are ready for right now. They will have to protect a worldwide supply chain, despite only having a few destroyers, one cruiser, and a couple of half size ramp carriers with a completely ineffective aircraft.

Further, it will force that merchant marine that moved their ships registrations to panama to get out from under US laws, back if they want protection. Think of how much stronger we would be if we returned our merchant marine to US ownership, and all it would take are a few pieces of paper and looking away when POS ships get jacked.

Most merchant ship crews are an assortment of random southeast asians

>post yfw a new age of piracy has been born
YARR HARR FIDDLE E DEE

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>What will happen is that these privateers will turn quickly into kidnappers and terrorists
Well, yeah. That's the whole point. Nobody wants a ship full of chinkshit, you ransom it to the owner under threat of killing the crew and scuttling their $50M investment

you ransom the ship back to its chink owners, and then blow a hole in the side and make off with 25million worth of bitcoin

Would you do it, /k/? What would you name your ship?

>The government will never pay you to hit-and-run rocket attack Chinese freighters from your EABO-based speedboat

At that point, China wont trade with Iran and Africa via ship anymore, but exclusively with Russia and and jointly exploiting Mongolia after invading and annexing them.

Maritime trade would actually be completely stopped by the Chinese anyway, since their economy would be under wartime conditions, just like a few weeks ago when they locked down due to Corona.

Also, threatening "regime stability" by attacking civilian targets like ships is useless. If anything, it will give them a huge rally around the flag effect. Iran and NK are under sanctions for decades and their regimes arent destabilized in any way. Same as with Russia. Where did this stupid idea even come from? Didnt work with anyone throughout history, not the Germans, not the Japanese, not anyone.

>retired marin crop officer says dumb shit
>people who weren’t even in the navy thinking the navy would just let people strap CIWS and shit on a used cutter or something and call it a day
Also this, privateers and pirates are two very different things. Privateers are basically state sponsored mercenaries that were used to help bolster naval numbers since most empires and countries couldn’t tank a full on conflict on land and sea at the same time without some drawbacks. Meanwhile the USN already does plenty of antipiracy operations without any issues and has thousands of SEALs alone to sic onto any hostile ship any time of the day.
>inb4 urrr nigur
As nice it would be to have my own armed ship, you’d have to be smoking something fierce to think ANY navy would willingly issue letters of marque again unless we become Halo tier in the next century or shit gets royally fucked on a global scale.

Dont those ships bring cargo to America though?

>US Navy Personell.jpg

surprisingly accurate kek

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that's the joke.

It's like paying people to rob your nearest WalMart to hurt your enemy who produces for WalMart.

Sasuga Marin Crops.

>you’d have to be smoking something fierce to think ANY navy would willingly issue letters of marque again
Why? Navies are quickly becoming far more expensive than anyone can handle including the US and CHina. Soon enough there wont be enough ships to reliably protect shipping, and a letters of marque would be a wonderful stop gap solution, which also gives rise to grey zone aggression to cause our enemies pain. So why aren't any countries considering this?

>Chiang Kai-shek's Revenge

ADM Howard on the top right is a cool person

You could probably hire a Taiwanese crew for cheap as well

>steal cargo
>sell at below market value since you got it for cheap
I dont see how this is a loss for anyone but chinks

Escalation effect, I think.

If you can issue these, the enemy can do as well. And if your enemy has a larger merchant navy or a lot more third world shithole allies than you, they could leverage their ability to their fullest extend against your privateers.

>top photos: cherry picking
>bottom photos: that one glitch when you drag a window across the screen and it leaves a trail

>tfw the third world war will be fought by niggers on both sides on behest of their superpower masters.

The Chinese are already committing predatory acts against the United States.

China is already using their merchant fleet and coast guard in offensive roles. What could they possibly escalate to that wouldn't be a straight up hot war? We would simply be matching fire with fire, and forcing the PLAN to cover their worldwide shipping routes, allowing us to stretch their forces thin and start exploiting gaps. Or they just give up their supply lines and sacrifice their economy....

I've always found the whole premise of blockading China a bit flawed. This article rests on the notion that if you cut off China's trade then you threaten regime stability, but empirical evidence shows that the rally around the flag effect would more than make up for the loss of economic prosperity. Venezuela and North Korea show that authoritarian regimes can survive even complete economic collapse, and I would also argue that the COVID-19 outbreak has (so far) demonstrated how resilient the CCP can be during a crisis. This isn't to say a blockade can't be part of an overall US strategy to beat China should come to that, but people often overrate its effectiveness.

The author's argument for using privateers rather than the regular Navy rests on two points.

- A blockade would require a lot of ships covering a lot of territory to be effective

- The regular navy will have its hands full fighting the PLA and won't be able conduct blockade operations

Neither assumption holds up when subjected to even light scrutiny. First, at some point those ships are going to have to go to China (that's kinda the whole point of trade) and to do so they will have to pass the First and Second Island Chains The author uses the example of privateers lying in wait near Rio to pounce on Chinese merchant shipping, an impractical task for a multi-billion dollar warship. But why seize Chinese vessels off the coast of Brazil when you could just intercept them while transiting through one of the many chokepoints they'd have to pass through on the way home? Hell, some of the chokepoints are so narrow that you wouldn't even need ships to block them, you could just have VBSS teams in small boats and helicopters operate from shore. Not to mention the fact that in a shooting war in the Western Pacific is going to massively decrease ship traffic, even if the US doesn't pursue an explicit blockade strategy.

Second, initially fighting in China's near seas wouldn't be done by the USN surface ships. Sinking the PLAN and breaking down the A2AD wall will likely fall to subs, aircraft, shore missile batteries, etc., at least in the beginning. It would be foolhardy for the USN to just rush its surface fleet within range of Chinese missiles in the opening stages of a conflict; it's far more likely that they'll hold their ships back and thus they'd be free to conduct a blockade.

And the author never addresses the issue of what to do if neutral nations go after the privateers. Most of the countries China trades with have navies and coast guards of their own and I don't think they'll take kindly to US-backed privateers seizing Chinese shipping of their shores, especially when it harms their own economies. What do the privateers do when a Brazilian frigate starts chasing them? Are they allowed to shoot back? Even if they are allowed to shoot back, would any private company be willing to invest the capital necessary to purchase a ship capable of fighting a guided missile frigate?

I could come up with more problems with this article but I really need to go to bed.

iirc you could still right to your congressman for a letter of marque.

>copy pasting some chink shill on reddit
cringe bro

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>Where were you when the US steeps so low that they actually think about sponsoring piracy against China?
The Chinese already privateer against...everyone. They use their civilian fleets like a weapon. Why not the US?

It's unironically not a terrible idea, but don't take it too seriously. It was published on April 1st.

>reality vs propaganda
yeah

All cruise ships will be available when the owners go bankrupt.

The TR is just sitting pierside.

Can I be a pirate too?

You have no idea how the USN would conduct offensive operations.

Saw this on /k/ earlier. It is a brilliant idea. This man is the author.
csis.org/people/mark-f-cancian
He is a big swinging dick in Washington. USNI publishing it is a good thing. It means it could be considered and if enough momentum comes from the Pentagon and they pay attention to things like this.
>mfw privateering becomes patriotic duty
God fucking damn it I love this country. Fuck the Chinks. We bumping this shit.

Published on the first of every month. Simple as.

Nobody said anything about a blockade, Chang.

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>America wants to unleash the pirates on China.

It's also kind of optimistic given that REAL pirates in the South China Sea and Malacca Strait mostly have ties to southern Chinese criminal gangs, not to mention the naval militia. If privateering became a thing again, the entire Pacific and Indian oceans would instantly fill with enterprising Chinese inspired by the greatest pirate of all time. Not Blackbeard. Not Jean Bart. No, the greatest of them all was Madame Cheng.

youtube.com/watch?v=-p2lhxUqMMQ

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Lol are you kidding me? That is fucking based. I would love to see a team of mercs blow up lone chinese ships. Fuckers would be forced to convoy with ships THAT DO NOT EXIST

China would be absolutely and spectacularly fucked.

Nah, not China will convoy them, but Brazilian frigates would blow your pirates off the water because Monkeys rely on selling Soibeanz to China too much to tolerate your bullshit.

Do you want to pick a fight against everyone, even neutral nations?

Based. Let us unite with our Somali brethren.

In a global privateering free for all, the Chinese fishing fleet will rule the waves. It's funny how dumb Americans think that they can win a contest of numbers at the low tech end with China.

nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/bad-idea-sea-mercenaries-fight-and-blockade-china-141952

>Cancian ignores the possibility that China might retaliate against American privateering by issuing letters of marque to its own seafarers. The former Marine seems to think that the United States’s relatively small merchant marine, numbering just 250 U.S.-flagged ships, makes it all but impervious to privateering. “Even if China threatens to dispatch its own privateers, U.S. vulnerability is comparatively small.”

>But those 250 U.S.-flagged ships aren’t the only merchant vessels that the United States relies on for trade. Indeed, the U.S. merchant marine is deceptively small because the U.S. tax code and regulations incentivize shippers to flag their vessels under foreign flags.

>If China authorized privateering, the raiders could target all shippers serving U.S. ports, not just shippers with U.S.-flagged vessels. The simple truth is that the United States depends on foreign trade nearly as much as China does, and that trade mostly travels in ships.

>Privateering would release for-profit killers on the world’s oceans in the same way the so-called “war on terror” released for-profit killers on America’s foreign battlefields. The consequences likely would be ugly.

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>China will convoy them
Lmao okay, they'll have to dump trillions into their navy to protect cargo ships from hillbillies with boats.

Why don't we just go to war with China? That's what we're all dancing around. It's time for the big throwdown. This virus is as good a premise as any. It's time for the great war of our century. It's time to crush the Chinese, or burn the world down as we try.

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except the point is that China WONT be convoying them.

Without fully knowing what goddamn objectives the guys at the USNI have for this scheme:

Did they really presume that the Chinese side or any civilian victims of this would just sit back and allow themselves to be robbed/killed without consequences? What if they armed and armored themselves for battle like an escalation of arms so all merchant ships would have guns/rockets/missiles/fire controls radars to better be able to fight off and/or kill enemy pirates/combatants?

Did they think the PLAN would commit strategic blunders by dividing their fleets trying to protect all civilian merchant ships thereby weakening their cohesive advantages? Or that the CCP will supposedly bankrupt itself trying to protect all Chinese merchant ships?

Did they think this will scare the Chinese people or anyone else in the world because the US Govt is sponsoring open piracy? I think this will be a huge boost in morale for the rest of the world because now anyone can kill American Enemy Combatants since pirates are free target practice AND they won't all be covered by USN carrier air wings, harpoons, air defense systems, submarines- easy individual pickings without layered defenses. I dunno about you but if I knew vulnerable US pirates would be attacking my merchant ships I'd be salivating wide eyed with excitement to kill them and brag about it, that's opportunity right there to hurt a supposedly invincible USN and stick it to the US Govt.

>Do you want to pick a fight against everyone, even neutral nations?
nobody is going to come to the defense of China, you're delusional

Noone likes to have their commerce raided by your sponsored pirates either.

Hell, how badass would it be seeing how the Canadian coastguard blasts your pirates out of the water because they attacked a freighter filled with Canola and Maple Syrup heading to China.

The PLA are literally the GEAR QUEERS of world military powers.

ZOMG so fresh, so crisp! WOW SO CLEAN SWORD!

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>Noone likes to have their commerce raided
Nobody else will, only you will.
You will have to buy even more soibeanz from the monkeys.
Your logic is broken.

>If China authorized privateering, the raiders could target all shippers serving U.S. ports, not just shippers with U.S.-flagged vessels.
That mean's china basically declares war on anyone who chooses to ship with the US. They won't do shit to ships not flying the US flag, and they would get fucked if they fucked with us.
>muh numbers
See: Korean War.

Someone actually buys this head cannon?

So, instead of making China divert their actual navy into chasing your pirates, you will now divert your navy to chase Chinese pirates?

Wow. This is what I would call self-rekt. Mutts sure are big brained.

>What if they armed and armored themselves for battle like an escalation of arms so all merchant ships would have guns/rockets/missiles/fire controls radars to better be able to fight off and/or kill enemy pirates/combatants?
I guess they wouldn't have any room for cargo any more. Which is kind of the point.

From the website's comment section:
>The better application of privateering in the 21st Century isn't at sea, it's in cyber-space. Congress should authorize the President to grant letters of marque to hackers and authorize them to bring their "captures", whether in the form of intellectual property or stolen money, into prize courts to have them legitimized.

Cyberpiracy's where it's at. Hack Huawei for shits and giggles.

You only need one or two containers for weapons these days.

youtube.com/watch?v=f_c_PeIIeMw

they wouldn't have openly published this if they planned it. rather it would have been quiet like with ie al qaida and so

It's april's fool article.

if not, the US sure is in decline.

>implying muttistan can ever think this far ahead

what is mujahideen, taliban, isis, kurds etc. they were all in the pocket of mutts at one point