Remaking the threat since it got a decent response.
Since it's pretty clear that the European project in it's current form has failed, towards what direction will we move in the coming years?
In the east the Visegrad group or V4 is being guided by the US to form the three seas initiative in order to counter Russian influence in the area.
The Balkans are showing the first signs of closer cooperation which might lead to a regional alliance mostly fueled by a anti Immigrant and the Turkish threat further east.
Throughout the Mediterranean an unlikely alliance is forming to counter the Turkish aggression mostly centered around the gas reserves in the eastern Mediterranean. this has drawn France,Italy,Greece,Cyprus,Egypt and Israel on the same side of the conflict.
In the west the UK has left and is reaffirming it's bonds with their Commonwealth.
Italy is showing discontent towards the northwestern German led Europeans and might leave the union after this viral crisis blows over.
The Germans and French are vying for control over the remains of the union while cooperating against any opposition within since the Aachen treaty. The Germans especially are looking for closer ties to the Russians to make sure that sweet gas doesn't get cut off. In short it is a mixed bag with many differentiating interests.
as a civilization I mean. EU has been an anti-historic mistake. the future is not unity.
William Cooper
fuck no nigger
unification with mommy russia right fucking now
Luke Perez
Ideally, we'd have a breakup caused by nationalist uprisings, followed by the reformation of the EU as something actually useful.
In this ideal timeline, Russia would be welcome to join.
Jason Adams
That's why I'm demonstrating a divided Europe in the OP. Since there are some common interests on a regional level it won't be every man for himself. But yeah the EU as it is today is certainly a mistake
Nathaniel Watson
The nordic block is gonna end up dominating all of europe eventually anyway so the rest of the pathetic constellations don't matter
Looks about right except I would probably split blue into two factions: One with Germany, Netherlands, and Flemish Belgium, one for Scandinavia.
James Gray
no, stop dreaming. fact is, europe as a civilization is literlaly no longer a thing.
Owen Wood
>Italy is showing discontent towards the northwestern German led Europeans and might leave the union after this viral crisis blows over. i doubt it will happen. after being drained of money by the eu and the bloodbath caused by the euro devaluation of our exports, we can hardly keep our economy afloat, much less being able to handle on our own. plus our gov is currently unionist and unless riots start getting really serious there's nothing we can do to get out
Asher Perez
The nordic block would be too busy working full time saving Sweden from its own lust for brown dicks to accomplish anything else.
Camden Jenkins
The EU will not die so stop making this shitty thread.
Hunter Cox
Nordics are just Germanic sweetie
John Scott
This. Romanian bro is based.
Cooper White
>The nordic block would be too busy working full time saving Sweden from its own lust for brown dicks to accomplish anything else.
Yep
Cameron Robinson
Who knows lol
Thomas Harris
I do believe nothin will happen unless somebody outside salvini and company will start to blow the fire.
The EU cannot be destroyed because all of our economies are interconnected, now stop talking nonsense and go back to your porn.
Colton Gonzalez
This seems like a good map, desu.
Connor Wood
Yugoslavia intentionally had a highly interconnected and interdependent economy that the commies designed specifically to keep the place from falling apart and it happened anyway. The economy proceeded to fall apart because factories couldn't ship parts to eachother anymore, among other things. Something similar was going on pre WW1 and WW2, this argument was brought up over and over again and it kept being disproven.
James Flores
The difference between Yugoslavia and the Eu is that its not run by a bunch of incompetent balkanoids that are interested more about their ethnic supremacy than cooperation.Not to mention Yugoslavia was destroyed by services outside of it because it was more useful to be divided.
Nicholas Brooks
First of all, the EU very much is run by a bunch of incompetents so completely out of touch with reality that they did nothing but scream and panic when Corona-chan started manifesting, for weeks. I had reports of government and EU officials literally crying in the office, paralyzed with indecision because they didn't know how something like this could possibly be happening. They are corrupt, ignorant and totally divorced from reality. And second, what the fuck do you think the Russians have been doing?
Lincoln Morgan
nej
Daniel Perez
>In this ideal timeline, Russia would be welcome to join. And you would be welcome to go and fuck yourself.
Elijah Morales
Why don't you bros wanna stay together with us. We could go back to speaking Latin.
Samuel Kelly
The Russians are irrelevant on this equation because USA is too interested in the EU project to succeed and our countries are somewhat protected by their secret service against the influence of Russia. And yes there are a bunch of idiots in some positions of power but that does not change that the EU parliament and Commission are doing the work without them.
Julian Flores
The future of Europe? pretty much become likee the Nigerlands. Populated by blacks and arabs or turks or south americans.
we share a common ethnical root with you, but nothing with germoids and other white shits
Luis Perez
Nigger, the UK already left and the amount of shitflinging the EU did over it in an attempt to stop them was colossal. It showed people that it can be done and with how things are going in Italy, it probably will be done again. This virus was just the perfect thing at the perfect time and perfect place needed to bring the EU down. It is a bloated mess that doesn't do its job and actively works against the member states and now the tiniest bit of stress, literally a hyped up common cold, showed everyone where the cracks in it are.
Jaxson Lee
no you are not, those gypsies are swedes now :)
Hudson Jenkins
You will live and see that the EU will reform and become more centralized and new multinational groups will be formed to fight against such events in the future.
James Rogers
Ah, but there are two major holes in this plan. The first is, obviously, EU incompetence. The second and more damning one is that Croatia is now presiding over the EU. Croats ruin everything they come into contact with, the EU is no exception. The blatant retardation of our politicians and officials is beyond measure, the EU doesn't stand a chance.
Caleb Sanders
the EU is not going anywhere, in fact its stronger than ever, even if uk left
Ethan Bailey
Again in 2 years your country will still be in the EU and so will mine.
we will see fuckface. I dont hope for a race war or any such thing. What I pray for is a war between the Euroniggers and old Europeans.
Daniel Jackson
There will never a war in Europe ever again so you will wait long after you will be dead.
David Wilson
>There will never a war in Europe ever again are you dense or something?
Camden Rodriguez
My apology I am tired
Jaxson Moore
No problem, but as to what you were saying sure 2 years from now the union will likely have the same countries in it. But a decade from now maybe two who knows, Europe has seen more radical change in a shorter time span.
lol ok, latin will replace english as the new universal language. We will create a latin version of Yas Forums
But then we need to attack North Africa for living space
But before this italian economy must improve and return to the 90s level when we were the fourth economy of the world
Ryan Evans
I don't care. Most northern countries will be replaced by negroids
Brandon Brown
I would put Ukraine in pink, they even have a common polish-ukranian batallion, also about novorossia... it isnt happening, russia is troubled and could be in civil war soon. About Estonia, I would put them slightly pink too, Their far right is really strong and they are more pro V4 than nordic block
What's your thinking on the nordic block, are we to continue on with an EU 2.0 or is it all out reich time?
Lucas Wood
honestly EU 2.0 there's no fight left in these nations to win against another bloc and the focus is not militarily. Plus out of all EU nations northern bloc is most thoroughly neutered. If the north ever wants to be relevant again they must learn to lead by example, setting new (non cucked) standards while losing it's pompous arrogance. the downfall of northwestern europe is it's constant race to be a top dog while not having the means to achieve this this lead us to importing population and embracing social democracies while having no checks and balances to maintain a steady goal. We could be great if we constantly improved ourselves but we became stagnant instead, opting to take service jobs taking care of other peoples problems in the most roundabout way possible rather than pragmatic policies that got shit done.
Charles Ortiz
There could be some Humanitarian Freedom Operation to Libya, which would become European area afterwords.
Gavin Long
Not a bad take, dutchbro. I should maybe have specified that I didn't mean dragging out the good ol' war machine and start annexing neighbors when I said reich but more if we are to have a more centralized state or just economic cooperation. I for one think there is somewhat of a foundation for a closer unification between these countries (without erasing their unique cultures of course).
Andrew Hall
Estonia is green
Gabriel Ramirez
>t.Romanian EU troll farm dweller
Angel Lee
What the heck would green even stand for in this context? Completely neutral and independent?
Grayson Gray
Your problem isn't your economy, your problem is that your government somehow convinced you that the most important thing you should be doing now and forever is replacing yourselves with foreigners. It's not a unique thing, governments have been trying to build post-national countries everywhere, but you guys for some reason bought into it the most. I don't know what's wrong, but if you don't fix that you aren't going anywhere but down.
Jacob Wilson
If only, dear Mexican flag.
What Is critical anyway Is the breakup of the Siculo-neapolitan ethnostate and genetic sewer that calls itself 'it*ly'.
Lombards have to choose: becoming Independent or go extinct.
With UK out, what's stopping a France/Spain/Italy/Greece union of teaming up with Russia and steamrolling Europe? Nordcucks don't have any military power.
>France >part of a partial mednigga union Why though? They're too different economically and politically. Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Malta, etc are more similar and need the same monetary policy. There's not going to be anything resembling the EU after its collapse though
Ian Ramirez
The EU (i.e. the beast with ten horns) will rise up more powerful than ever.
Revelation 13:3
I saw that one of the heads of the beast seemed wounded beyond recovery—but the fatal wound was healed! The whole world marveled at this miracle and gave allegiance to the beast.
Liam Cox
We are both, I'm certain, aware of this pressing issue. Tho I do believe we have to "go down" (and pretty hard that is) before we can start draining the swamp.
Chase Hall
depends some yes, all no. I cant imagine any one of these nations willingly being part of Germany, mostly since their identity is mostly based off fighting off the german blob trough several parts of history. And the german population being huge doesn't help in getting anything democratic going, since they will always shill for economic population based representation. but a decentralized model with some means of equal representation in a centralized organ could work. also if we want to continue existing with our current standards we'll have to come up with something to offer the world so we won't be pushed around but instead have other nations actively ask for our help and support (dutch waterworks engineering comes to mind as an example) This is very true, we should abolish the majority of our bureaucracy and the cost that comes with it. Instead we should opt for more direct input by the population, either businesses or communities or both having more to say on what is or isn't ok would push back the pro immigration narrative. Talk to any normal hardworking person and they'll tell you that they did not ask for this and at a loss of why it is happening. personally by hearing about a greying population when I was young I was positive for the future, less competition for decent jobs and a less crowded country is a blessing in my opinion, an opportunity to take a step back and reinvent ourselves alas money grubbing bureaucrats and bankers did not think the same. We'll get there especially if shit keeps going the way it is people are fed up and in the next decades we'l see a shift in opinion and policies, even more so once the substantial boomer populations who have no interest but their own retirement will dwindle and die off. this virus is a blessing if it would hit them harder. think of the next generation I can get behind think of the previous no so much they've had their day.
