Build an offgrid home?

I was looking into some off grid places south east of Santa Fe .. any that already have a well and good solar set up with enough acreage for real privacy were over $300,000... I found this one was asking about $150 on 10 acres but no well just cisterns ... that kind of place while you can get water delivered (hauled) a bank will not write a mortgage for them so you'll have to pay cash or arrange with the seller. Wells are to be found but they can be very expensive to dig new because you never know how far you have to drill.. can you imagine paying $30,000 and ending up without water? With 5G and all this garbage I want to head that way

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are you trying to virtue signaling or what?

Yeah well I'm still going to need for you to submit a stamped set of plans before we can issue you the permit user.

>will she just undermine my attempts to be free and happy
only if you let her.

I have seen a guy build a giant metal rain roof on the ground. Monsoons come, and it fills 4 giant cisterns that last the year round. He is surviving fine without a well.

Plus you aren't really allowed to just build shit anywhere you want and occupy it lmao

>bug out off grid
>sustainable living
>move to dry hot desert..

based, but you still need to buy the land and pay taxes. That is where it usually goes wrong for most people.

Cochise County AZ is where I currently live. It is one of the only places in America you can apply for owner-builder permit and bypass all codes and inspections. County is based in that regard.

Almost all of these things can be learned as he goes. Besides, if you don‘t take a year or two to study your land before buying animals or planting crops then you‘re a moron. Learning basic skills is as simple as using Skillshare or Youtube; however, I wouldn‘t even recommend anything more than chickens unless you really know what you‘re doing & willing to make the commitment
> t. Rural upbringing

True. I have affiliate websites that bring in passive income. I am building another currently. Money shouldn't be an issue.

yah but you have to at least buy the land. A decent 40 acre lot round there will run about $50k average? You might get a bank to loan you soem for that maybe even for some construction but they all want to be able to resell it if you punk out so you need running water and electricity which means a well and solar inverters running

check this place ... 40 acres and an already built structure with solar and a well its just not all hooked up... you'd need to pay cash... not conforming ..

I love the idea of basking on that deck in the sunshine with nobody around for miles.

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Exactly. Plus, as mentioned, Santa Fe NM has courses that teach owner-builder adobe home building. And you can go help other owner-builders in the program to get hands on learning.

Lambs are also very easy.

t. ruralfag

This place would be awesome... I am single though and it may be overkill and also out of my price range or I wouldn't be musing about it on this website at almost 3 am.

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>bypass all codes and inspections
That sounds like bullshit, I live in gulf county Florida we have some of the strictest building codes in the country you can still get an owner builder permit, but you still have to pass inspections.

I built my own place, in a hurricane zone, don't worry if you fuck something up code inspector will let you know. Plus he's a public employee, you can call his ass all day long asking stupid fucking questions.

I like it.

THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S HOJNG TO TURN INTO A KIKE-INFLUENCED HOMOSEXUAL FAGGOT SECT. KEKS EVERYWHERE.

THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA, op.

Just become a gypsy. Easier. Just steal from people.

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>200k for piece of shit with tiny parcel in faggot state
Landandfarm of landsofamerica have plenty of listings that aren't garbage like this.

Look it up. Cochise County allows you to by pass codes and inspections with an owner-builder permit. I am serious.

I was thinking if I did this I'd get land with some hills you could excavate caves so they can get out of the heat and also to store cheeses you can make from their milk

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Hills are also good for digging out swales on contour, to slow the movement of water and nourish the land, allowing you grow more food.

Maybe so, I'm actually from chambers county Alabama they don't even have building permits. You can go hot glue plywood to trees for all they care.

Codes and inspections aren't that bad if you're not a fucking idiot. And, like I said if you fuck something up they will let you know.

Although sometimes the code enforcement doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.

it has a well... that's a big plus

this ones has a more interesting lot but no well only a tank with drawing rights from the local water coop.

realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/118-Wolf-Rd_Cerrillos_NM_87010_M10779-39200?view=qv I like the location ok but the buildings are pretty cheapish and it has no well so its way overpriced.

Yeah, I bought 80 acres in N FL with a huge barn (4500 s.f.), already has well, septic, and power for 210k last year. There is 5 acres around the barn that is cleared the rest is wooded and it touches a state park, a mile down a dirt road to a small river.

I could never imagine moving to a desert and trying to survive.

Solar, humanure composting toilets, and cisterns to capture monsoon rains (maybe a well too).

Remember burgers, no collecting rain water in the land of the free if you don't want a big ol fine.

I want to do the same thing so, so badly. My goal though is to acquire land in Alaska. The midwest seems like a much smarter option though.

>Plumbing, electrical, carpentry, run a chainsaw, use any power tools?
>Have you ever killed anything, or even shot a gun?
Americans are fucking retarded and useless.

How much did it cost per acre? Where I am, it is $10,000 per acre on average. All land belongs to land monopoly families and the government taxes independent land owners so when they are old they die poor and without the land they spent their life paying for.

I bought an acre on the bay for $40k you can go to the front of my property and dig a 5ft deep hole and have potable water. Then the bay has more food in it than I could ever eat, no need to raise anything. Just chill out and go fishing.

Why are we like this?

What about hurricanes?

I live in an offgrid home in a forest. very comfy when its not on fire

We want to be free, and to be free you need to own land and be able to defend it.

As Americans, we were born into a society that promised us freedom and liberty as birthrights, and yet that same society gave up all of our freedoms for us, because they cowered in fear when tragedies struck, and couldn't recognize that was when we needed liberty most.

unless you were born in that humidity I can't imagine residing in it... I visited a friend in Ft Lauterdale in March and by May I had to leave . the humidity was unbearable.

I sat on my porch thru Michael, the worst hurricane to ever hit the gulf coast, drinking whiskey. My place was fine, because I built it myself. I stick built the roof with 2×12 and 2x10s double strapped it and put double screws on the metal roof. We went fishing the next day.

Northern NM is full of sandstone boulders. You can crack these with $50 worth of tools and make blocks, then build stone houses out of the blocks. Sandstone is easy to work with and this building method is super cheap if you already own the stones, the mortar is 1 part Portland to 7 parts sand. Roof will cost though as all roofs do.

>Solar, humanure composting toilets, and cisterns to capture monsoon rains (maybe a well too).
Again, have you ever built anything, or do you know how to do anything?

You don't need some college degree, but you do need to understand how electrical and plumbing work, and have some experience; else you're gonna be miserable for the first few years.

I live at roughly 9200' in the Rockies.
Been off the electrical grid for the past 10 years.

Not because I'm a filthy cocksucking hippie, but because going off-grid was far cheaper than the cost of installing a grid power drop.

I generate power with solar panels. 4620 watts of panels, 3600Ah of battery storage at 48V.
Do you know what kind of panels you want to use? Are you gonna buy AGM or Gel Batteries?
Are you gonna build a 12V, 24V, or 48V system?
Do you understand the pros/cons of each?

The nearest small city is an hour and a half away, in good weather; about 50 miles as the crow flies.
Coincidentally, that’s the nearest place you’ll see a nigger—they’re terrified of the woods.

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It just seems like too much work to try and live in an uninhabitable place. I can hunt, fish, grow food year round. We can dig a well by hand if we needed to, you hit water like 10 feet down, I wouldnt drink that water without filtering it though. Our well is about 60' deep.

Water is the most important resource, without it you are dead in 3 days.

For some reason these homestead threads attract jew shills like flies to shit.....a lot of people reallllly don't want Americans to even think about becoming more self-reliant

I've come across a development psychology theory that as children there are 3 different coping mechanisms we use as infants to get what we need
>Crying and anger so our parents give us what we want. If this works, we use it our whole lives.
>If crying doesn't work, we move towards trying please and accomodate our parents to get what we need. If this works, we use it our whole lives.
>Then there is me and you. Strategy #3 when #1 and #2 don't work. Withdrawal. Realizing other people will never give us what we need. We become independent. We give up on the notion of people or society meeting our needs. We do it ourselves. We leave.

Hmm interesting. Moving the rocks sounds difficult tho. Heavy machinery needed I assume?

If I were you I'd build a cabin inside a forest with fresh water nearby. Then I'd buy corn and wheat in bulk and store it.
I wouldn't count on some garden to feed me right away.

Did my parents did a good job at raising me? They made me feel like needing #3 but after they saw me struggle to get shit done they would give it to me... would try to do everything myself no matter if it's easisly accesible or not, which is annoying to most people.

>a lot of people reallllly don't want Americans to even think about becoming more self-reliant
I absolutely want you faggots to become more self-reliant.
The first step in that direction is to realize that the interweb isn't just for shitpoasting and pron.
The second step is to actually try to fucking do something other than shitpoasting and wanking to pron.

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Honestly same. Just need a bit of money. I'm constantly torn between just wanting to fuck off right now and buy some small piece of land and trying to make it good and slaving away for a few years to get a big chunk of money which I can invest and live off for ever and buy an already amazing piece of land. I'm already so tired of the droning on and on and on though.

>Realizing other people will never give us what we need. We become independent. We give up on the notion of people or society meeting our needs. We do it ourselves. We leave.
It ends with us if we're ever lucky enough to breed

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In your interpersonal relationships as an adult, what method do you use? For me, I just withdrawal and leave. "The door stands open" as Epictetus says. If I really care about the person I will try to overcome that response, but usually I have to at least fade away for a while regardless. I deal with my problems by myself.

When we bought our first piece of land (13 acres) that we built our house on, it was 2k/acre, that was in 2001 (it touches the 80 acre piece), then we bought the 12 acres next to it for about 4500/acre several years ago. The 80 was about 2200/acre plus the barn. Our taxes for the 3 parcels is about 7k/year, but we need to get the 80 at exempted that will cut the taxes in half.
You get used to it. It is bad in August and early September, but the rest of the time it isn't bad. Do your outdoor shit in the morning and stay inside from noon to 4. We dont have to worry about snow or freezing, it gets in the low 30s to 20s about 10 nights a year probably, so all fall and winter it is really nice outside

Any tips on building your own castle?

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Indiana has what's called the log cabin rule.

If you will be the occupant/not rent/not sell you can build whatever you want for your own housing without permitting/code enforcement.

Several lawsuits filed against homeowners got BTFO due to the state here allowing you to do whatever you want on your property, with the condition you build it yourself.

>I'm constantly torn between just wanting to fuck off right now and buy some small piece of land and trying to make it good and
I wish I had done that when I was young.
Land where I live was selling for around $1000/acre when I graduated high school.
Of course, a $ was worth twice what it is now, as well.
I lucked out when I moved back 20 years later and managed to buy a quarter-section for only $200,000.

It was raw land, and required quite an investment in building, but my nearest neighbor is just over a mile away. So it was worth it.

The first stage of any change is precontemplation. The 2nd is contemplation. Then 3rd is preperation. We are just going through these stages.
prochange.com/transtheoretical-model-of-behavior-change

You are not gong to get far. Especially not without a family. Your fantasies are adorable.

Fpbp

How old are you guys? It seems to me that a lot of you feel like you should have all these things by the time you are 25. I'll 39 in a few days I just really got started when I was 30. I own a house and brick and mortar business, zero debt, and I have a wife and three sons. If you ask me the thing you need first is a wife. I met mine in high school when she was still a virgin. This is what is pressing, there will always be time to buy land and build. If you wait too long most of the good women will be gone.

Land is something that will take you years of planning and work to get.

Good info

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I'm planning on doing the exact same thing user. We will make it.

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I'm halfway housed already, user.
If you have any real questions you'd like answers to, or any tips, ask them real fucking soon.

I pray you don't get divorce-raped and psychologically BTFO when she leaves. You will be set back by 10 years.

Most of the skills you're mentioning you can learn if you really want to and aren't larping. You just need a lot of motivation and patience.

You can just use a tent and they'll be fine. You only need barbed wire and tarp.

2 months from being 19, and I plan to move out soon out of state to live independently.

That's a good mindset user. As I said, we'll make it.

The most important thing is to start a family, user, build it with them.

Could use aircrete. Would actually be somewhat insulated and pretty cheap and easy per square foot. Not sure how it would fare against a catapult but aircrete is a lot stronger than concrete in most ways at least.

I may be wrong but I think sweden had something similar
It can't be to close to neighbour's property it can't be to big and your not allowed to do the electricity without a license

Thanks.

I'm considering buying a vacant plot in Indianapolis just to fuck with them by building a home and enjoying rent free life.

Some cheap 1/2 acres lots even in the city, 3-6k. Cheaper out in farm country.

I am going to build my adobe home with double-brick thick walls. Tons of thermal mass. The inside temp is going to be regulated naturally. Similar to those half-buried homes.

Well I've already been with her for over 20 years, I don't cheat, and I take good care of her. I don't give her any shit, and I don't take any of her shit. That's the best advice I can give you, besides find a virgin. Women hold a huge emotional connection to their first one. Just try to be a good husband and they are actually quite loyal.

I bought my first house when I was 20. I had to get a loan, and it was a fucking shithole, but I fixed it and made a little money to buy something a little better.

Rinse and repeat for over a decade.

I think these building code bypasses usually have certain acreage and zoning requirements.

Buy some land in a discreet area then stop giving a shit about the government's stupid red tapes.
Has anyone here tried to convert a hippy/lefitst girl into becoming a right wing/fascist one? Probably isn't that hard to do. Most of the hippy ones already have some kind of traditional traits in the sense that a lot of them know how to work the field etc...

what many people don't understand is if you don't have a way to make money in the boonies, you can't innawoods effectively unless you have 15-20 years in a career field that is a good fit for boonie lifestyle.

You gotta pay for:
--Land
--Permits
--Soil Testing
--Well Drilling
--Electrical hookup to grid (if it even has it)
--Solar banks are expensive we are talking 8k-16k because you need to build a battery bank and w/ converter and you generally want it away from your house in case something bad happens.
--Foundation
--Housing materials
--3rd party contractor
--Insulation
--wiring the house
--running plumbing
--interior finishers like a floor and sheet rock the walls / ceiling
--AC/Heating

If you can't do it yourself it's gonna be expensive to get contractors out there do it, IF they want to.

Most people that do this have skills or at the very least tools. Don't be fooled by articles and videos talking about people with no experience but love and a dog and a truck. It's all bullshit.

Their dad owns a shop full of woodworking tools or they got a crew in the family in construction, etc. etc. They always lie for e-fame, video hits, publicity. Always. You can't build a house alone with no skills, no tools.

>Most of the skills you're mentioning you can learn if you really want to and aren't larping.
of course.
most of the faggots talking about going innawoods haven't done shit but run a cash register, and shitpoast though.

You can get a PhD by reading and regurgitating what you read.
Doing shit is a different beast alltogether.

Good luck with the housing codes in AZ. Fucking beurocrats looking out for your safety.

>will she just undermine my attempts to be free and happy?
Have you never spent time with a woman? Of course she will, that's what women do! The solution is quite simple however, just don't be a beta cuck and you'll be fine.

>Has anyone here tried to convert a hippy/lefitst girl into becoming a right wing/fascist one? Probably isn't that hard to do.
Kek. You go ahead and try that. You sound young and foolish.

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I'm planning to abstain from college for about a year while I adjust after the move. Be a wagie as a bartender hopefully and build enough capital through investing to make a downpayment on a nice plot of land or a full house without needing a loan.

Will take lots of saving, planning, and sacrificing. Years and years. No doubt. All things that are worth it do.