Can I please recieve an official Yas Forums pardon for my choice not to have kids...

I don't want to have premarital sex though. How is being aware of the consequences of creating life being on a high horse?
I haven't been browsing this board that much in the last couple of years so I'm not really sure how to do that. Maybe I'll get caught up on the current Yas Forumstellagence someday

I am working for a family-owned kitchen remodeling business, and one of my goals is to be elected to my local school board

well at least you're trying

>How is being aware of the consequences of creating life being on a high horse?
Because you and both know you're full of shit and women not paying attention to you is not the same as being some kind of holy monk.

You are a weak fag ... no you don't .. my 2nd is in the way ... go coom and play video game .. you are not my kind . You should leave .

I'm also in the same predicament, I want to have a huge family to keep evropa alive but I'm in a huge rot right now...

>sine filios fvtvrvm non.

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I'm not claiming to be above anyone, I'm just sick of seeing so many anons tell me to do something that I know I shouldn't
I hate masturbating and I'm aware that video games are garbage. Can I just accept the fact that I'm a dead end and that in a natural world I would've died years ago?

imagine caring what a bunch of fat NEET autists think about what you do with your life
based and taftajpilled

One way or another, it's mutilation of one's own body. Avoid it. Avoid messing with critical systems.

>anonymous peer pressure is so real and powerful that people actually ASK anons for forgiveness

I don't care that much anymore compared to a few years ago but I think it's interesting that aspects of my existence can genuinely bother people who I've never met (assuming that not 100% of them are shitposting)
Creating another person like me would feel like a nanoscopic mutilation to the human race

It's fine but you have to become a priest

>Creating another person like me would feel like a nanoscopic mutilation to the human race

Self-hatred is poison. There's also no guarantee (for better or for worse) that your children will be "like you" - I'm a father; trust me on that. May I ask, how old are you? You don't need to give me a birthday, or even a count of years; an approximation (ex. "20-25", "25-30", etc.) is fine.

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>I'm just sick of seeing so many anons tell me to do something that I know I shouldn't
If they told you to jump off a bridge would you make a thread about it?

I tried going back to church as an adult but it just didn't click with me. I struggle to make my mind up about plenty of things and existence is high up on the list. I do have a copy of the Bible though so there's a start

Same here...So often I think to myself "Damn, I wish I believed all this shit..."

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I am 20, and my self-esteem changes frequently. Now that I'm inactive it has declined
If I read posts that said that for 5 years then yes

Having something to believe in and live for is awesome. My best bet is harnessing my desire to fall in love to better myself in order to get to that point but something(s) in my head won't let me

You're young; you'll be fine. I was a mess at 20. As for having children, you still have time, no need to write it off.

Let's suppose, for a minute, that if you had a son, he'd be exactly like you. A little carbon-copy of AmericanAnon. Would his life be worth living? Well, you presumably think that *yours* is worth living (you're still alive, after all), so he would presumably think the same.

By denying such a child a right-to-life, you'd be applying a different standard to him than you apply to yourself. I discourage suicide, but ultimately, I think it's up to every individual to make that choice. I don't think it's moral to deny a future person the right-to-life on a hunch along the lines of "I'm unhappy with my life, so this person would be as well".

I agree, inactivity is an issue. The quarantine isn't super strict in Russia; there are cops with UZIs on the streets, a pair stopped me last Friday walking in a park, but I talked my way out of it. I think our quarantine will lift soon; not sure about the States. America is a patchwork quilt of different laws, of course.

>If I read posts that said that for 5 years then yes
Or you could just blow it off.
Maybe it's for the best you don't have kids buddy.

>20 years old
>already decided that you don't want kids

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I know that I didn't mention it earlier in the thread but another main reason is that I think the future will suck compared to today's world. Everything seems uncertain and there's no way to reverse the decision of procreation

I know that most guys get the urge to do so several years from where I'm at but I feel like my current mindset is less biologically influenced
The ones that are extremely serious about it still make me feel upset. They are telling me that I'm causing the death of my race but that frame of thinking is beyond me

In some ways the future may suck; in some it may be better. I'm not a huge fan of technology (says the man with four cell phones), but it has its benefits. I do think we'll see continued technological development.

There's great uncertainty about the future, but if everything is up in the air, then things could improve just as they could go downhill (strange, that in English, one can't say "go uphill" as an antonym of "go downhill"). I'm a bit of a political radical, so the idea of a breakdown in "the system" is attractive to me in some ways, though I have a lot to lose, relatively speaking.

There's freedom in having little to lose; remember that. There's also some comfort, I hope, in knowing that you're not "responsible" in any grand way for the direction of the world. A bit like being on a roller-coaster: you ain't driving.

Sure, procreation is irreversible. So are all important decisions. Having become a father in the not-too-distant past, I would say that fatherhood has a benefit in that you have a major and non-dischargeable responsibility, and often, having a responsibility can provide structure to your life. Fatherhood is also much like fetch-questing: you need to go to place "A" to get diapers, and place "B" to get a toy, and place "C" to get a thermometer, etc. It's kind of fun that way.

What, specifically, do you anticipate happening in the future that will make it "suck"? An AI takeover? Coronavirus mutates into airborne super-AIDS? The decline of religion? Demographic decline? Mayan apocalypse? Authoritarian governments? Politics moves too far left? Too far right?

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I'm a white woman (if Irish is still white). But also autistic and schizo. 3 of my grandparents have severe mental health issues and both of my parents do. I'd be poorly suited to raising a child and the child would likely inherit some issues. Sorry everyone for letting the team down.

Read and pray. Maybe check out Bible study groups so you might get inspiration or support from others. That's a thing here. Not sure about Russia though. Seeing the beauty that God created in nature helps me appreciate Him also.

If you are not, genetically or otherwise, a good candidate for parenthood, then it is not only acceptable but advised to opt-out of having your own children. However, you still have a love for and duty to your family and humanity.

Strive to be the best uncle to your siblings children. Be there for them if they are in trouble and can't face their parents. Do not let them avoid their parents forever, but get them out of the situation safely first. Make sure they know you can be depended on for this.

They should also trust you to give them the truth. DO NOT FORCE FEED REDPILLS. But if they come to you, privately show them evidence from whatever sides you believe relevant and let them decide. (Children should not be shown Yas Forums obviously.)

Finally improve your community. Improve yourself and build your skills to do so. However you can, given the barriers you may have, make your people's lives and future better.

You have only a few years of life. But after is unknown, what if you relive that life over and over for eternity? What life could stand this test? Be the man you know you must.

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Oh yeah, I am a fan of nature. We have study groups and such, but I'm pretty busy usually. My company isn't affected by the quarantine.

The American concept of Russia being supposedly "Christian" and "Conservative" is completely wrong. I've been to the States, and Moscow is about as Christ-following as San Francisco, maybe even worse. Plenty of people believe, but there are serious issues with immoral behavior.

The typical American who does something terribly immoral has some complex theory about why it's acceptable (because of racism or oppression or "fighting the patriarchy" or whatever).

Russians, on the other hand, recognize that what they're doing is wrong, but just don't care.

An American will deny abortion is murder. A Russian knows it is, but will do it if she thinks she can get away with it.

I think that people will lose genuine motivation to live their lives to their full potential and will be fueled (if at all) by shallower methods such as consumer culture
You're ok anonette, you can gracefully accept your lineage's end

This is pretty good advice, but I don't think that my siblings will have kids either and my extended family lives in a different state. If I (hopefully) get married and my wife has kids the I'll be the best role model for them that I can

I agree with your criticisms of consumer culture, but all you're really doing by failing to have children, is letting the consumerism of others deny your (would-be) children a chance at life.

Don't do everything Yas Forums says, but don't let mass culture control you, either.

You're young. I know you've probably heard that a thousand times and hate it; I know, as I was young once. You'll be fine. Really you will.

Watch out. I'm you from the future.

Fuck I meant my wife's relatives. Otherwise I'd be a cuck lol

>I'm a white woman
post your feet

Another good point. I will be more open-minded about this stuff from now on, thank you for your constructive advice user

>tfw not male
>tfw can't sire hundreds of sperg spawn to further my line

There are big brother/little brother programs in a lot of places, or something similar. Many children don't have good parents and you can make a huge difference to their lives.

Ha good, I was worried I just typed all that, on my phone, for a bait thread.

post your feet REEE

I've always thought most people shouldn't have children. I think at some point in the future, reproduction will be managed by the state to ensure following generations are strong, healthy, intelligent, happy etc. .

Furthermore, this is not the time to 'contribute' to society - in the West it is rotten and has to decay. Don't allow yourself to be shamed into doing something that feels wrong, as it might be much more fruitful to focus on inwardness and observation in these times.

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Go shoot up a bunch of somalis then.

Adoption sounds like a plausible option the more I think about it, 2 of my cousins are adopted and they seem respectable to me
I would never bait you user, don't worry about it
If the west does die where should we go?

What kind of degenerate are you? My body is for my future partner.

That which increases suffering is immoral user. I don't hurt people.

Imagine wasting your money and energy on a little bastard, clothes, school, this and that. Fuck that, some people here is just spreading a meme.
Internet strangers arent going to pay for your bills or stand your roastie wife, te MGTOW life is truly better.

You are literally just as useless as a tranny if you're not making moves to have white babies.
You failed at the one thing you were supposed to do in life.

You're a fucking kid dude. You have no idea what awaits you. I don't know if you've ever been in love, but that may change your opinion.

You will get older and it will happen fast. I feel procreating and fatherhood is a responsibility I carry for all the people who led up to me. Do you know about your ancestors, what they went through to enable your existence as an American. It was likely very hard work and by throwing away their bloodline you are kind of pissing on their graves. You have a lot of time. Just be kind to yourself and focus on things you enjoy. You're only young once.

Autism can make you smarter

Just donate sperm you pleb

>muh degeneracy
shut up and post your feet
>My body is for my future partner
based

You're right, harming people under the pretense of being a superior being is flawed logic
Learn to think beyond money bro
Thank you for being the example of peer pressure bs that was alluded to earlier in the thread. I am more than just a quantity categorized by a characteristic

If not a father be a martyr

I think we have to accept that there are historical currents that are beyond our control. You cannot escape those, but there is also no indication that there will be extreme cataclysms etc. . Just wait and see what happens - care for yourself first.

Spengler contended that the race to find political/social solutions was itself a symptom of spiritual decline. The manly thing to do is to accept defeat where there is no chance of success.

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im older and totally regret not having kids, picked a bitch for an ex and that fucked that up.
my advice to the young me find a trad girl knock her up have a few kids so they can play together and grow old gracefully.

Fuck off, youre mentally well

become a priest and redpill the people from the altar

Your local community is not The West. It is your home. It will continue to be the home of your people even as the global systems disintegrate. Yes, Rome fell, but people still lived in Europe. Some were better prepared for the fall. Some even prospered.

Yes trust the UN...of course.

How do I invest in this condoms are trannies meme?

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I know that they gave a tremendous amount of themselves to ensure my existence but if I can't continue in their footsteps properly within a future worse than they expected then I'd rather not make that misstep. You're right that I'm still a naive kid and that I've got alot to still figure out. I've never been in love but I have felt strong feelings for girls a few times, the strongest example being someone who I could partially visualize spending my life with. I've never actually been in a relationship though

Stop being a weak cuck looking to a goddam Alaskan deep water fishing forum for validation.

Dont vax em and spank em when they misbehave. Most autism is made.

Oh and also, the obsession of right wingers have with the 'trad lifestyle' is itself a form of hedonism. That idea isn't promulgated because it solves anything, but because right wingers think they enjoy it and hope to derive of sense of purpose from it. This isn't bad per se, but their moralistic arguments shouldn't affect you.

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Many of my flaws are genetic though, even ignoring the possibility of autism being gender-based
That's what mine does but the way that it affects my thinking process and other everyday aspects of my life can be negative
Why wouldn't her feet also be for him though?

I'm definitely doing better than some people here but "fleeing my home country under paranoid delusions" was considered abnormal

It's alright to have issues user, but it's not alright to give up.
Keep working away at it, you will make progress and get there.
In the past even the biggest turbo-autist had a wife and children and that future will happen again. As a man you can have children at a much older age than women can.

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