Entire wehrmacht is equipped with this in 1939

I would rather prefer 18 more Million fully equipped Soldiers.

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Should have dropped all "vengeance weapons" like V-2 and V-1 buzz bomb. Put all that energy, material, and fuel into these as fast as possible.

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>it was strategy
Yeah no. It was actually the fact that the war was literally against the entire world and it would have kept going and going and going until they ran out of everything and lost.

why make more tanks and planes when you cant crew then?
also op has shit taste, superior raifu coming trough

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>Entire army equipped with a piece of shit weapon
They lose even faster

i don't think so much, the German doctrine was to make the infantryman a sniper similar to the Russians, at the time an infantry assault was first preceded by an artillery bombardment which was quitte effective.

>Reduce throttle too fast
>Engine catches fire
>Slow spooldown causes you to overshoot anyways

They steamroll Poland and France faste, then everyone copies it and it all goes just as before. Maybe it would help a bit later on but not much.

Nothing.

Out of bullets in 1943.

They run out of bullets faster.
The problem was never man for man fighting power; but the fact that they were being gang-banged from all sides, and couldn't get the materiel they needed.

the fg42 is so cool actually and was so ahead of its time

I saw this same topic before on here.

Dan Carlin posits the rate of increase in military effectiveness excelerates around 1900, making any military from the year or so prior obsolete. With this, is say yes, if Germany had her auto rifle, and not to mention jet propulsion, they would have finished it by the end of ‘39.

Nothing. The miracle about the wehrmacht is not that they lost, its that they even held out this long.

Not impossible, just unlikely in most scenarios. WW2 was way to big and compilcated to make such simple statements. It was entirely possible to get england or the US out of the war, if hitler hadnt had a god complex by then. Hell Its even feasible that germany could have allied with poland against the soviets.

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The recoil on it is horrendous. The M1 Garand is the superior rifle.

Couple of these bad boys would have more of an impact.

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Ammo shortage then

Their technology outclassed everybody else’s pretty much from the beginning. That’s not the problem. The problem is that they had to deal with the fucking United States and the USSR at the same time. They simply did not have the right allies

>the recoil is horrendous
>stg 44 is 7.92x33mm
>Garand is 7.62x63mm
>extra 30mm of powder in a case with a larger radius

Ummno.

If you overshoot target you did something wrong on your final approach ... ;)

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Well garand is a rifle.
STG is an ASSAULT rifle, whose overall concept has been widely implemented all over the world.

How many countries have copied the garand and use them in frontline service as of today?

They change back to the kar98 in 1941 due to material constrains.

I know that Stalin and Hitler were allied from the mid 1930's till 1940... I think. I know that there was also a Soviet plan to betray the Nazis before they declared war. The Nazis were eyeing those oil fields in southern Russia.

I think the real question is, is there any way Nazi Germany could have prevented a war with the Soviets? If so, I think the stg 44 coming out in '39 could have made the difference. Also, not investing as much into Pz IVs, Vs, and especially PZ VI and VII. They should have focused research and development on their STuG line, that way they could have competed with the T-34 rush.

Probably not much, Germany lost on the strategic level, not the tactical level

Well, you're not wrong

they make it long enough to get nuked

Wehrmacht spend less money on armored vehicles and aircraft, so war ends in 1944

that would not have changed much either, the Germans besieged Moscow and Saint Petersburg in 1941, they didn't needed gasoline, they needed more planes, trucks and tanks for a successful blitzkrieg. the Germans had not made fuel reserves in anticipation of the operation?

I think the real question is why did Romania let down the German Sixth army?

Chronic ammunition shortages because they had to design a new cartridge for it.

Soviets zerg rush their way to Berlin even faster than before.

Also see

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kys

Jesus, imagine that

Small arms don’t win wars

Ah my favorite weapon in Return To Castle Wolfenstein

No. The 262 was way too little too late. They should instead spend the resources on more bf109 k models, as well as ta-152. They were good enough.

Tell that to the Vietnamese

>Germans had not made fuel reserves in anticipation of the operation
I'm not sure you understand the logistics of the war.

vietcong started to use tanks heavily after the easter offensive. Didn't use them earlier because they'd get absolutely shit on by american planes.

>What changes?
People don't make retarded hypothetical slide threads that should be in /k/

They never have to stop their advance and can retreat much more safely due to cover fire being available from everyone.
At least according to the reports of the field tests. These rifles revolutionized warfare for a reason.

> Communist bloc support was vital for prosecution of the war in the South. North Vietnam had relatively little industrial base. The gap was filled primarily by China and Russia. The Soviet Union was the largest supplier of war aid, furnishing most fuel, munitions, and heavy equipment, including advanced air defense systems. China made significant contributions in medicines, hospital care, training facilities, foodstuffs, and infantry weapons.
>Since China bordered Vietnam, it was an immensely important conduit of material on land, although the Soviets also delivered some of its aid by sea. Soviet aid outstripped that of China, averaging over half a billion dollars per year in the later stages of the war, with some $700 million in 1967 alone.[9] China provided an estimated $150 million to $200 million annually, along with such in-kind aid as the deployment of thousands of troops in road and railway construction in the border provinces.[10] China also provided radar stations and airfields where North Vietnamese aircraft could marshal for attack, or flee to when in trouble against American air forces. These military airbases were off-limits to American retaliation.[11]
>The railway network in the Chinese provinces bordering North Vietnam was of vital importance in importing war material. American rules of engagement forbid strikes against this network for fear of provoking Chinese intervention. Thousands of Chinese troops (the PLA's 1st and 2nd Divisions) made important contributions to Hanoi's war effort- building or repairing hundreds of miles of track and numerous other facilities such as bridges, tunnels, stations and marshaling yards. Chinese troops also built bunkers and other fortifications, and manned dozens of anti-aircraft batteries. In all, some 320,000 Chinese soldiers served in Vietnam during the war.
stfu faggot. Also, COIN=!force-on-force

What about the time tome it pump to Berlin, I don't think so

They couldn't solo tank the world, maybe if they made some alliance with the communists and sticked with it for real... That or the americans, you can't tank both and the brits at the same time

The soviets nearly buckled due to rebellions in their backline during barbarossa, the people didn't get fed to supply the soldiers.

I'm not sure you understand punctuation

That wouldn't have been a problem if they planned the logistic support of the blitzkrieg better. That's what fucked them, their supply lines couldn't keep up with their rate of attack, forcing them to delay, which gave the Soviets an opportunity to produce what they needed to push Germany back. If Germany could have continued pushing into Russia and take Moscow, there would have never been a war on two fronts.

what? you want to tell me that they planned to attack moscow without fuel? all major operations was first to pre-supply. they needed fuel because the war continued after the blitzkrieg.

It changes German infantry tactics, which in 1939-1943, were heavily centered on the MG42 as a platoon support weapon. Initial studies of the MP44, showed platoons issued them were more effective in combat and more aggressive in their attacks.

I wonder if this would have made much more of a difference than an assault rifle.

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Reminder that this little mother fucker on the eastern front would've meant the difference in WW2. The entire survival of the white race could've been ensured.

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ROMANIA. R O M A N I A.

this. No one notices that the political power of the soviet command was challenged to its limits during the invasion.
Although if the StG-44 had showed up in 39, the sovs would have something similar as an standard issue weapon by 41. That could even have made the invasion more difficult.

he needed to fucking strangle the brit economy, until it surrendered

no war with the americans, if he could have dropped brits and franks at the same time, arrange a grand strategy with japz, that would be the optimal way

The answer lies in the question itself.

because germs didnt give them AT weaponry to support their retarded invasion

Nothing. Artillery wins wars, not small arms.

Nothing. The Nazis had crippling manpower shortages. No amount of "what if they had more of (insert weapon or vehicle"?" can change that they had a fixed number of trained people with which to field them, and that it wasnt enough.

>motorized artillery
yes, they already had the smg/flamethrower/grenade for the urban assault. speed is the most important factor in blitzkrieg. This is why they won so easily in France.

it was a 2 front war thats the single most defining characteristic of germany's defeat

Enemy forces focus on getting assault rifles and not much changes in the end.

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The best move would have been this. Better relationship with Japan to keep the ruskies in check in the east. Better diplomacy to convince the brits that it was for the better, especially for Britain (had Germany won, the crown would have kept all of its colonies to this very day). No was with the US. That would have taken the ability to rille the recent german immigrants and have a voice in public discourse in America, like our Great Enemy, the eternal jewels, had.

There is literally no way the Axis could have ever won the war. They had no plan. They was no coordination between Germany and Japan.

Meanwhile the CHADallies regularly were meeting making long term, complex warplans on how they were going to win.

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haha blaming the g*rman failure of case blue on the romanians, paulus and mannstein couldnt pull a victory out of their asses if their lives depended on it

You guys are retarded. Launching V2 rockets into an adversarys nation and detonating the nuclear device inside it at ground zero would have changed a lot of shit.

Not to mention that despite the whermacht depicting themselves as fully mechanized, the reality was most of thier artillery was still horse-drawn, and they had nowhere near the level of mechanization that they pretended to have.

this, and the single biggest reason for the failure of barbarossa, case blue and zitadelle is that the g*rmanoids did not expect the soviets to fight back, which they obviously did

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I think it would have changed the war pretty drastically. Assuming they can keep up production of ammunition the average soldier would be way more useful in every scenario. Imagine being in a shootout and having to continually pull the bolt of a rifle back rather than being able to use an assault rifle.

More expensive and time-consuming to make than Stg44.

Its a short version of their plentiful 8mm cartridge

what nuclear device, g*rmany had a little nuclear lab in a cave under a castle compared to the ginourmous manhattan project

Germany was nowhere NEAR close to have a nuke at any point during WW2. Not even remoteley. They never had even a fraction of the matieriel, manpower, or acedemia to pull that off. Hell, after the USA dumped the equivalent of germany's entire GDP into the project for years they still only bareley managed to make 2 of them.

The "Nazis get a nuke" fantasy is just that. Fantasy.