CNN is telling me that chloroquine will kill us if we take it

>CNN is telling me that chloroquine will kill us if we take it

I guess this one doctor saying "you could die" is somehow enough clinical evidence for them

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That's what pisses me off about this

>Only 1 study said it was useful!
>Ok only 3 studies say it's useful!
>Ok only a handful of doctors are saying their patients are doing much better with HCQ!
>Ok 37% of doctors say that HCQ is the most effective treatment, but it's not 100%!
>Look at this BASED BLACK doctor who says HCQ will KILL YOU if you take it!

Genuinely hope Trump eventually destroys this kind of garbage media in his second term.

stop watching normie nigger garbage
stop posting it here
go fucking die

The First Amendment was a fucking mistake. The media is a pulsating tumor on the ass of American society

Thank you for your service Dr. Harambe

Jesus fuck you’re retarded. None of those are double blind placebo controlled studies. So, they’re not fucking studies. They’re anecdotes. Where you’re even more retarded is when people like Fauci say this, your retarded brain hears: “don’t take it”. Nobody is saying not to take it. They’re saying “it’s not a guarantee”. Now quit being retarded.

Where are you taking those goalposts

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if trump wasn't the one advocating this drug you would all be against it.

yes, favela monkey, Hdroxychloroquine WILL kill you if you decide to dose yourself.
it is a powerful and dangerous anti-malarial drug, with dangerous side effects, and a very low LD50 (that means it doesnt take much to poison yourself).
it does not prevent catching the Wu Flu, it is a TREATMENT that MIGHT help you recover if you get the covids and get really fucking sick.
however, retarded favela dwellers like you see >"dis da cure mufuggah, go see tyrone an get dat guud sheeit nigga. "
anyone who foolishly decides to go out on the street and buy sone hydroxychloroquine from the niggers who also sell crack, meth and fentonyl, DESERVES the grisly death they have earned.
CNN however, needs mindless dumbass niggers like OP so they are trying to dicourage you, OP, from going out on the street and buying fake poison disguised as real poison, and poisoning yourself, because than you will have died for nothing, as the headline "Dumbass Nigger Kills Self With Drugs" doesnt sell any papers, doesnt raise the ratings, and surely wont increase their click-throughs.
saged.

I mean it will kill you if you take to much, if your smart about dosages you will be fine. But the average american is fucking dumb, thats why they warn people not to do it.

It's actually pretty good at stopping cytokine storms. It's why lupus patients take it. And covid 19 is notorious for causing cytokine storms

It's been used on over 6000 patients and deemed the most successful treatment go fuck yourself and let the civilised countries discuss

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the drug has horrible nasty side effects and they ONLY give it as a last resort because its basically poison to humans.

You are emotionally invested in seeing americans suffer so that your side can win an elections. Otherwise you would be optimistic about a potential treatment. You are transparent as fuck.

This board isn’t intended for reasonable discussions.

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Yeah, that's believed to be one of the main ways it helps. But this stuff is still very very complicated. For example, what if maybe it can suppress cytokine storms and immune response too much and increases the chance of the virus regaining a foothold or something, what if it's only good for patients in a certain progression of the disease, etc. etc..

I'm just blindly speculating about those, I'm not a doctor, but the point is it still needs more double-blind studies. People just need to be patient. Let the scientists and doctors study it more and stop listening to the media or politicians.

Fauci has admitted he was wrong about initial death and infection estimates. Stop worshipping human beings, they are all fallible.

Well, sure, if you happen to drink aquarium cleaner just because it lists that as one of the ingredients...

True, I should rephrase. Don't necessarily trust any experts or doctors, especially when it comes to predicting the future. No one can predict the future. He and others may be proven wrong again with their statistical projections.

But regarding understanding a currently established body of evidence about a drug, doctors are generally pretty trustworthy. That's an area where Fauci is qualified to speak accurately.

Another retard who lacks any self awareness. Plenty of media and government officials are saying don’t take it. Even the governor of Nevada banned anyone in the state from being prescribed HCQ by their doctor. What kind of response is that? We don’t have the luxury of time to do a massive study that would make you happy. Saying that the existing studies are equivalent to anecdotal information is retarded.

>This board isn’t intended for reasonable discussions.
Sad thing is though is, that this board has more reasonable discussions than the DC Progressive Uniparty congress does. Go figure.

>just let our economy crumble into dust so democrats can win in november.
We dont need mountains of red tape, we need solutions. So shut up and get out of the way

Yes, so remember people, if you get covid you are better off drowning in your own juices than taking this drug! Drumph isnt a doctor so remember dont take this drug if you are about to die horribly from covid cause the side effects could KILL you...checks out

>double blind placebo controlled
Lol cant believe I used to be a liberal

He isnt on the front lines, actual doctors are and there are many that see chloroquine is working. Why are we to subjectively listen to doctors poo pooing it and ignore the ones that arent?

>. None of those are double blind placebo controlled studies. So, they’re not fucking studies.

Imagine being retarded enough to think that only double blind placebo controller studies are allowed the label of "study".

>"Nobody is saying not to take it. They’re saying “it’s not a guarantee”. Now quit being retarded."

Did you literally not see the video the OP's picture where she said it could kill you if you take it? Are you retarded?

By the way, a study doesn't show if something is guaranteed or not. You've fallen for the "I believe in SCIENCE!" meme. If you have individual studies by doctors showing it's effectiveness with thousands of patients, to the point where you have nearly a third of them(doctors) agreeing that HCQ is the most effective treatment, you don't need a double blind study to tell you it works. All that does is confirm what is observably true. I don't need a double blind study to prove someone getting shot in the head will most likely kill them, it's an observable truth.

The problem is people are ignoring that doctors know how to control dosages, while regular people do not. If regular people do this they are going to poison themselves.

>placebo during a pandemic
Have you considered this for a moment? Double blind doesn't even make sense here. Are you just throwing words at random?

People are dying from cytokine storms not infections. Older people tend to have slow but mature immune systems. Their body can't stop the infection in the throat like young people can so the virus divides rapidly and moves down to the lungs. But older people have a mature immune system aka they can produce cytokine proteins at a much high rates than say 8 year olds. Hence why this is killing mostly older people. hydroxychloroquine is very good at reducing cytokine proteins

If we had all the time in the world and not in the middle of a pandemic, you would have a point. We have very little in our arsenal that can be used on a mass scale against the coronavirus. HCQ is available, and seems promising. The president is a hero for publicizing this so that many people may be saved from it. Otherwise as Trump says, what do you have to lose by taking HCQ when you are infected? Name any other treatment that is generally safe, widely available, and has promising results that will deal with this virus? You can see that the other recommended doctor action is to “do nothing.” How ridiculous.

This is their mindset and nothing will change it:
>its only science if it agrees with my predetermined worldview
>its only racist of wypipo do it
>its only bad for the environment if america does it
Their entire worldview is based on being able to disregard their own supposed values when they become inconvenient to the overall cause.

the irony is, hydroxychloroquine is one of the SAFEST anti-malarial drugs available.
even in places where malaria is ramapant, hydroxychloroquine is used only on people who will die from the disease unless the doctors pull out all the stops and use aggressive treatments.
now every dumbass in this thread thinks
> "dis da cure muffuggah! dem YTs don wan niggas gettin dat guud sheeit!"
i say, let these retards dose themselves with shit they bought from tyrone, and watch them die, as the gene pool gets chlorinated.

We need to remove red tape but the first rule is "do no harm". I agree that we don't have time to do full, thorough studies. But we still need to do more studies. It's absolutely possible that overprescribing it could cause more harm than would otherwise be incurred. It's a serious drug that inhibits immune response. It's approved for use by doctors on a case-by-case basis for critically ill patients, which is good. But the science still isn't clear enough yet to just give it to everyone as a general treatment. Hopefully we'll know by this month.

It's already approved for use for people in critical condition. I'm talking about giving it to everyone who tests positive. It's still too early to say we should definitively do that.

>He isnt on the front lines, actual doctors are and there are many that see chloroquine is working. Why are we to subjectively listen to doctors poo pooing it and ignore the ones that arent?

Because he's the "doctor-in-chief" in this instance and his job is to sum up what all the people on the front lines are seeing and hopefully come up with an accurate aggregate assessment. If he fucks it up, then he fucks it up. But hopefully he's doing his job properly.

Ideally people should listen to opinions from many different doctors and experts, but people have a hard time deciding who to trust.

Yes, we need rushed studies, we don't have time for thorough ones, but you still absolutely need placebos and double-blind studies. Yes, even in an urgent pandemic emergency. You have no idea what data you're actually getting if you don't do that. You can look at case studies, but it's not enough.

Exactly. If you try to buy it yourself and self-administer it, you can very easily die. You have to get the dosage exactly right.

Trump is right that it's a promising drug. But Fauci is right that it still needs more studying.

This guy is correct but rural and suburban 2016 election boomer tourists with no science background are attacking him lmao I can't even right now.

The French faggot can say he cured 9,999 people with it but that data is worthless without controls.

>>CNN is telling me that chloroquine will kill us if we take it

So...you expect me to listen to a fucking Jew and affirmative Action Negro "Doctor"???

chloroquine phosphate is NOT hydroxychloroquine.
all chemicals that sound similar are not the same.

No they’re doing that because they’re CNN and anything that Trump supports should be condemned by the public. Why else would the governor ban DOCTORS from prescribing HCQ for Covid-19?

Not a single governor has banned them from doing that, what bullshit are you spouting.

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There are more reasonable discussions here than almost any other well popular website. Let me guess, you believe r-ddit is the top hub of intellectual and reasonable discussions.

We like Fauci because he's making Trump look good. The media is trying to say they're fighting but that's obviously the opposite of what's happening, which is why your media talking-heads keep floating the idea of not broadcasting the daily briefings anymore.

You guys are literally suggesting to self medicating with a drug that can easily kill you or damage you severely, thats not reasonable.

I will prove to you how retarded you are so you can go back to bulgaria.
>placebo during a pandemic
Do you want accurate results? Then you need to have a control. Without a placebo you dont have accurate data on a treatment. DO you really want shitty data during a pandemic?
>Double blind doesn't even make sense here
You are an inbred spaghetti-nosed jackass, Milodan. For the study to be double blinded, just have the doctors not be told which drug is the placebo, and which is the HCQ+Azith, and don't tell the patients also.
>are you just throwing words at random?
You are

i rather they dont i was given 50 mg of prednisone and i went psychic 9 hours later. same kind drug and there was a recent study showing people even on low dose for a few weeks get bone thinning and heart failure and all kinds of fucked up side effects. they better off dying from the virus.

No one is suggesting self-medication.

Anyone else notice the amount of black doctors the left wing media has been pushing?
Most notably, in bongland, it's the BBC at the forefront of this agenda. The news here is even highlighting a paki nurse who died on the same day as white British woman (in b4 >white/>british).
They're trying to make it look like the victors of this pandemic, were all brown.

>Don't necessarily trust any experts or doctors, especially when it comes to predicting the future.
Same people that have been predicting the end of the world due to Global Warmimg, and the same ever changing outcomes when their prior prediction did not work out.

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She's wearing thick black framed glasses she must be smart.

I don't care as long as urban retards continue dying.

Doctors are using it and it works. Let's be honest. YOU HATE TRUMP. That's why you can't admit this drug works. Because you are a Trump hater and Trump promoted this drug and you want more people to die. Chloroquine isn't some weird mysterious drug that just came to market. It's 50 years old and doctors know about it's side effects. Stop fucking concern trolling. You don't like this drug because "orange man bad". That's literally it.

>NOOOOO YOU CANT USE THIS DRUG, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR BILL GATES TO INJECT YOU WITH HIS VACCINE

Doctor Shanaynay be tellin it like it is.

Don't you take it before and while traveling abroad on the chance you could get malaria? Any medication should be discussed with your doctor before taking. To say it will kill you is wrong.

People here are saying to take hydroxychloroquine without any extra information, they aren't being told take X dose. And even that isn't good enough because things like height and weight, metabolism also play a factor on your dosage

people are dumb sheep.
if you tell the average retard
> "this drug MIGHT help some people who are on the edge of death from The Plague Of The Century Of The Week, but it is dangerous, highly toxic, and should not be used except under close supervision of a physician"
all you hear is
> "Go down to the corner and buy a baggie of whatever tyrone claims is hydroxychloroquine and swallow the whole thing, then youll be immune to the Wu Flu!"
this is why Venerial Media is toxic, and anyone who listens to faceberg, twatter and instathot bullshit deserves to die.

>It's already approved for use for people in critical condition.
which is the stupidest time to give it to them. It should be given when they're still healthy.

nypost.com/2020/03/24/nevada-governor-bans-malaria-drugs-for-coronavirus-patients/

redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/03/27/michigan-gov.-warns-doctors-pharmacists-who-prescribe-or-dispense-hydroxychloroquine-of-professional-consequences