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Thank you for keeping bread alive but there is no happenings going on besides corona for anyone to really speak about unfortunately.

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So I've been out of the loop on the Iraqi stuff, what should I know about the Zurfi

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the new PM that is planning for economic and political reforms, i've taken pics with him once and the guy is stricter than saddam and has a really strong persona, he aims for having more investors into the country and reduce the outside inflience in the military, maybe he'll bring Iraq back to his glory, lots of people say that, idk really, i personally think he's going to take over the middleeast shitshow.

>A member of the Bani Hassan tribe, al-Zurfi earned a degree in Islamic law at Alfik College, the Islamic jurisprudence college, in Najaf.
More educated than Sadr perhaps

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I see. Well, I'm interested. Let's see where this takes us.

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>[Zurfi's political party,] The Victory Alliance (Arabic: ائتلاف النصر, romanized: iʾtilāf al-naṣr), is an Islamo-democratic Iraqi political alliance established by former Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi

>split from State of Law
He does sort of have an offbrand Maliki feel

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>Fatah also a split with State of Law
Did not know this

Initially, Victory was going to be a coalition with Fatah, but the talks fell apart due to allegations of corruption within the Victory Alliance.

So Maliki's whole party just exploded, flinging splinters into all directions?

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I'm so confused about what's going on in Lybia.
From what I understand, the US used social media to trigger a revolution and then threw in jihadis to make it turn violent, which then resulted in the death of Gadaffi.
Then the jihadis made a government in Tripoli and got UN recognition, somehow.
Then everything turned to shit, again. Haftar came out of his quasi-retirement and started a campaign against the jihadi government.
Except this mess is actually closely related to what's going on in Egypt where the US did a facebook revolution and deposed its own puppet government in order to hand the land over to the jihadis, only for the old government to come back, get rid of the extremists and turn to Russia due to the US betrayal.
And now Haftar is getting support primarily from Egypt, but also Russia and France, which took part in deposing Haftar to begin with.
How does any of this shit make sense? It's like the Obama administration was pants on head retarded with 0 capacity for forethought.

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the destabilization project of syria was underway when bush was president, I'm fairly sure that they have been running even longer than that and in more countries than just libya

From what I understand, the actual projects started while the latest invasion of Iraq was underway, but didn't actually hit things off properly until Barrack "Nobel peace price winner" Obongo got his hands on it, presumably in collusion with Clinton & co.

>From what I understand, the Turkey/Qatar* used social media to trigger a revolution and then threw in jihadis to make it turn violent, which then resulted in the death of Gadaffi.

Haftar also served in the revolutionary army against Gaddafi under Abdel Fatah Younis. Abdel Fatah Younis, the commander-in-chief, was assasinated by Mahmoud Jibril, who then blamed it on Islamists within Younis' army. Haftar inherited Younis position. US support was limited to aerial power against the army of Gaddafi, the ground work was done by Muslim Brotherhood affiliated with army defectors. Younis was also killed for talking to Saif al Islam Gaddafi.

Haftar's war against the Muslim Brotherhood in Libya started in 2014, when new elections booted most Islamists from power - but they refused to step down. Haftar, commander in chief of the recently elected parliament, took them to Tobruk where his air force protected them, and declared parliament parliament closed. He launched Operation Dignity to take the parliament and airport in Tripoli, but was countered by Muslim Brotherhood factions from Misrata. The Misrata-led factions proceeded to dominate Tripoli in the aftermath.

However, working from the east, Haftar focused on liberating Libyan cities from Salafist control - Benghazi, eliminating Ansar al Sharia there - Derna, eliminating various factions which used it as their home. At the same time, Govt of Nat Accord was formed as an attempt at a peace agreement made by the UN, but in the end only the Islamist factions joined it, making it a thin layer on top of Islamism, which retains many of its councils, Mufti, dating to an Islamic Salvation Government, collborating with other Tripoli factions, such as the Presidential Guard of Serraj.

France and Haftar did take part in deposing Muammar Gaddafi as supporters of the revolutionary army, but the ones who killed him were the US drone that attacked his convoy, and the factions from Misrata that mutilated him.

most likely the whole program is continuation of old cold war project to fund the mujahediin to fight the soviets in afghanistan, when you establish such a big program you rarely end it but direct it to other tasks, the 90s wasn't any more peaceful than 2000s has been. during obama admin I'm assuming that one of these shifts in focus was made because he wanted to wage a shadow war because he recognized how unpopular bush became because of them

>How does any of this shit make sense? It's like the Obama administration was pants on head retarded with 0 capacity for forethought.
When you are most powerful (at the time) country on earth, that barely anyone dares defy, it's easy to think it would never come to that.

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In fact, the major trigger in Libya, as it was in Syria and Tunisia, was Wikileaks leaking the internal data of those countries. Their role was so significant, Hillary thanked Wikileaks and Al Jazeera in a speech commemorating the revolution against Gaddafi after its completion, underlining the superiority of those media sources compared to MSM US ones.

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>US support was limited to aerial power against the army of Gaddafi
But that's a really big deal. From my point of view, that's a lot more important than the ground troops because it's infinitely more sophisticated technology that the locals can't do anything about.
Now, I don't know the actual flow of events, but I'd assume that US airpower broke resistance and then the ground troops just swooped into the weakened enemy formations, as that seems to be the general pattern.

>but the ones who killed him were the US drone that attacked his convoy, and the factions from Misrata that mutilated him.
Same pattern here, US creates the opportunity, ground troops just mop up.
Also same pattern in Syria with the Russians doing the air bombing, while Israel provides that service to IS.

As for the other point
>From what I understand, the Turkey/Qatar*
Okay, Turkey is a NATO country and the US has a history of giving them things to keep them cooperative.
So, my question is, did Turkey/Qatar initiate the series of Facebook revolutions and the US just went along with it, or did the US initiate, with Turkey and other locals following along?
I'd assume that the US initiated because the same thing happened in the Ukraine, which is not obviously to me in the line of fire from Turkey and generally not part of the middleast muslim situation.

Yeah, that seems about correct. Either way, the mess was left to Trump to deal with and his idea seems to be to just say fuck it and proclaim they are just there for oil, then occupy oil rigs.

interesting, Assange might be behind everything, Q is real

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No doubt. France and UK were also pushed to aerially intervene but lacked the ammunition, so relied on US stocks of it to continue operations there. So, from the beginning, the western countries were only CAS for the army defectors and islamist militias. In the aftermath of Gaddafi's death, western countries took another role professionalizing the neighborhood militias of Tripoli, which is how the Presidential Guard got trained. Other forces were assisted by US in the conquest of Sirte from ISIS by GNA, and received upgrades to their groups this way. Shortly before his advances on Misrata and Tripoli, Haftar told these forces to leave, and they did, which is why the US is no longer in Misrata, but Turkey uses it as a major HQ: taking command of the emptied US positions,

>So, my question is, did Turkey/Qatar initiate the series of Facebook revolutions and the US just went along with it, or did the US initiate, with Turkey and other locals following along?
Difficult to say. Islamism and Ikhwanism certainly predate the intervention, so what they did was feed those sources in order to overthrow secular leaders. This is actually what Al Qaeda claims to be doing all the time, fighting dictators throughout the Middle East, so they were among the beneficaries, being well accustomed to hoodwinking US antiterror efforts and using them to their advantage, such as it was done in the overthrow of Saddam.

Tunisia, Libya, Syria were classic color revolutions for which Facebook Inc and Twitter Inc and GOOG openly served as propaganda spreaders, doing everything they could to support the military efforts greenlighted by their US masters. As for the initiation, I think the role was tripartite but the real fuel behind the fire was the diplomatic pressure by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at the time, who organized a broad coalition for killing Muammar Gaddafi. Haftar in many ways represents the regret felt towards that period, as many remember the high HDI of Libya

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>Tunisia, Libya, Syria were classic color revolutions for which Facebook Inc and Twitter Inc and GOOG openly served as propaganda spreaders
so Yas Forums's /sg/propagabda might cause a revo in some country in the future? wouldn't that be hella kino, anime hezb/pmu edits causing for the death of thousands

at least turkey has started to act more independently and towards their own goals sine the dog took power there, and us control over turkey is waning rapidly, so you have to factor that in the timeline too

Any news?

>at least turkey has started to act more independently
Until RuAF bombs their jihadist helpers, then it's back to "PLS NATO HALP!!!"

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libya was a big hrc project, that's why I'm also assuming that the plans for libya was laid during her husband's presidency

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holy fuck

Fair enough, like it all the same

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Hezbollah commander responsible for chasing spies and collaborators found stabbed near his car in southern Lebanon

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Hassan won't remain silent

other than that it's the usual skirmishes between the SAA and HTS and Coronavirus related shit

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I'm still confused as to what France is thinking in this.
Was it a case of supporting the revolution, only to realize the revolutionaries are muslim brotherhood monsters and then going oops and doing a 180 against them, right into Haftar?

This is like that meme of a jew that must undermine its host nation, except she is doing that on a global level, while undermining her host nation.
Four years later and I'm still 90% certain that she's the main reason Trump won.

Nah, people who go here tend to be the tech savvy and autistic kind, you need to actively shill on very normalfag-friendly platforms to spread a message effectively. Note that Facebook and Twitter actively supported this shilling, which is a very big deal because it would just get buried under a mountain of shitposting otherwise.

Yes, but also no. Erdogan has also proven himself to be an actual fucking retard. He was very obviously trying to play US and Russia against eachother only to bungle it all up with his hamfisted attempts at diplomacy. And his "2nd largest army in NATO" got its ass blasted over and over again in Northern Syria.
The only time they made any progress recently was when the Russians pulled back for a couple of days because they bombed a bunch of Turks, only for the Syrians to come back with Pantsirs and shoot down Turk drones before retaking Saraqib.
And now in the end, Russians don't trust him because he kept fucking with them in Idlib, the EU hates him because of the refugee mess and the US don't trust him because he proved willing to do business with the Russians and probably sell out NATO.
He's just stuck being laughed at and looked down upon like the buffoon he is.

It's all quite interesting

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GNA aircrafts targeted a fuel car and military vehicles between Al-Qurayyat and Shweref


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GNA aircrafts bombed LNA forces at the northern gate of the city of Bani Walid.


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UAV bombs a plane carrying medical equipment and medicines for the Coronavirus in Tarhuna, Libya

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In this one thing, I envy you in this moment.

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ARIGATO!

basically erdoge the fucking monkey that he is just walzed to where he is, with his little adventures and plans, but he didn't realize that he basically just jumped in front of putin and stepped all over his plans not fucking realizing that putin is trying to escort him out his way because he really needs to get shit done in the region to stabilize it

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Unknown Iranian plane. Mode S 73523A en route to Syria


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Alarms sounding at the Zubeir oil field. Iraq
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Iraqi media s: 5 missiles fell on an American company operating in the oil field in Basra

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Kurdistan's Health Ministry reports 18 new Coronavirus cases in Erbil

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