No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and...

>No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0399077X20300858

yikes, this is looking bad

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abc7news.com/coronavirus-drug-covid-19-malaria-hydroxychloroquine/6079864/
virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
public-cdn.sermo.com/covid19/c8/be4e/4edbd4/dbd4ba4ac5a3b3d9a479f99cc5/wave-i-sermo-covid-19-global-analysis-final.pdf
thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/update-dr-zelenko-has-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-with-100-success-rate-using-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-and-z-pak/
les-crises.fr/le-professeur-didier-raoult-rebelle-anti-systeme-ou-megalomane-sans-ethique/
medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.02.20047050v1
expressen.se/nyheter/carl-40-fick-kramp-och-syn-problem-av-coronamedicin/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Did any of these retards who believe in these miracle cures watch the movie Contagion? This shit was predicted almost a decade ago.

Reality is even crazier than the movie, since our Alan Krumwiede turned out to be the president of the United States.

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Told you idiots from the get go this drug was sketch.

>No Evidence

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News.

abc7news.com/coronavirus-drug-covid-19-malaria-hydroxychloroquine/6079864/

I’ve been told first hand it’s basically the only thing they’re using in spain along with antibiotics

The media really is disgusting

that's not a scientific study
not dismissing the future studies that will come in the next weeks about it, it just look pretty meh right now

>that's not a scientific study
fuck off, faggot. why are you lying about it?

>outdated reference
>a fucking 4 pages article quoting other articles
>most reference is outdate
>completely missed on how the virus actually kill people
>2 of the latest reference actually involving corona is from China, that went 180 from their own peers and on field result
>with an extremely small sample size

Meanwhile on an actual fucking studies;
virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69

Did you read what you just posted yourself?
Yours is even trashier than that.

>A 2005 study about an other virus
vs
>A week old study about the current virus
memeflags, as usual.

did he publish his results in a paper? What's the n=?

Why do shills (all of cvg) keep trying the same tactic again and again?
1. Put outdated "study" with a sample size of 6.
2. Post it on Yas Forums at late hours in the night because no one will refute it.
3. Get btfo by hundreds of posters telling him how fucking wrong the study is, showered by countless other studies showing the contrary.
4. Shill then says "NOHU THAT'S NOT EVEN A JOURNAL WHY DO I EVEN NEED TO READ I", or "HAH THAT DOESN'T FIT MY BIAS NOUH DIDN'T READ"
5. Kill yourself.

Why don’t you catch corona Chan then use the miracle cure. Take one for the team buddy. Own them leftist pig dogs.

>did he publish his results in a paper?
wtf has that got to do with your claim of "no evidence or clinical benefit"?

Bunch of faggots on here in denial that no drug can treat COVID. Grow up, learn to deal with uncertainty.

Still waiting for the studies proving that (hydroxy)chloroquine works.
Nice fantansy post tho.

Kek, this. Go ahead guys.

That's how science (and the world) work.

They're trying several drugs right now in important studies with a lot of people, results will be out in the next weeks. Until then, there is no miracle drug.

You bought in to that flagrant globalist propaganda? Get a lot of this retard. And he’s citing it as evidence! Kek

>virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
Hmm that paper doesn't seem good. No proper controls and they used 1.0 uM drug. That's an unrealistic concentration. If they used bleach they would get better figures than what they showed.

Ouch, looks like I triggered one of Alan's cronies.

it's a 2005 paper and it's not related to SARS-CoV-2/Covid-19, even if it worked against that other virus, doesnt mean it will work against the current one we are dealing with.

You're retarded.
If you read the link I posted it actually referenced over 20 other studies starting from 2004 with over 200 scientist involved in those studies.
All of those on top of an actual lab result.

Just fucking neck yourself.

Still a fuckton better than what OP is using.

Imagine calling people retards but believing a fucking story line from a jew hollywood movie

Holy shit guys, references just flew over my house!

Dont waste your breath, nothing you can say will stop these Neanderthals from pumping this shit through their veins. Just grab a popcorn and watch as they die clueless not understanding how their "cure" isn't working.

that's not even related to SARS-CoV-2, you're off topic, meme flag.

What's next, a study on AIDS, you faggot?

>That's how science (and the world) work.
An international poll of more than 6,000 doctors released Thursday found that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus.

public-cdn.sermo.com/covid19/c8/be4e/4edbd4/dbd4ba4ac5a3b3d9a479f99cc5/wave-i-sermo-covid-19-global-analysis-final.pdf

And how's that working out for them?

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I actually thought Jude Law (such a name!) was meant to portray Alex Jones. Never even heard of the faggot you’re talking about. And yet, still, you are a retarded lemming. I wish you the best, user.

>poll
science is not a democracy

Their opinion, if not backed by proofs/evidence/scientific data/clinical tries, is worth nothing.

>More DEBUNKED!!!!! Nonsense from the vaccine merchants

Here’s another thing about Spain

If you’re OVER 63 (yes 63) you won’t get treatment and are told to stay home and flip a coin whether you live or die

>severe

Means it treats the rest fine.

A sample size of 6 is not proof herr baguette

What you posted also amounts to nothings.
Its not a scientific paper, its a goddam blog post.

They recently started a $9.5 million dollars worth of testing for hydroxychloroquine in New York.
They ain't gonna dump that kind of money on something that is any less than promising.

Get back to your /cvg/ thread and stay there you fucking retard.

>The cope.png

Shove this up your ass

thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/update-dr-zelenko-has-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-with-100-success-rate-using-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-and-z-pak/

suck cock, frog nigger. this shit definitely works, just look at all the faggots opposed to it.

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Well that's why I'm saying to wait for the major studies that will come in the upcoming weeks, you're the ones claiming shit whitout any proof.
It's not like I'm being categorical on anything, just saying that I feel like hydroxychloroquine won't be a miracle drug.

>Published by Elsevier Masson SAS.
>blog post
Shut your lying whore mouth.

Hydroxychloroquine works because Malaria attacks red blood cells, just like Coronavirus, it prevents the virus from inhibited the work of red blood cells which leads to hypoxia and death. Ventilators just make the problem worse.

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>science is not a democracy
keep moving those goalposts, Mohammed.
Scientific consensus is the collective judgment, position, and opinion of the community of scientists in a particular field of study. Consensus implies general agreement, though not necessarily unanimity.

Plenty of other studies says it works.

They fucking post journals and blog all the fucking time.
Read it yourself faggot.

Its 4 fucking page long.

ITT: OP absolutely buttraped

>Sciencedirect
Owned by Elsevier, dutch POZZ news agency that has some Berkeley uni grad as CEO, Kumsal Bayazit
Absolutely disregarded

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>Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection
>Severe

>keep moving those goalposts
What goalpost am I moving? Opinion of doctors =/= scientific data or facts or demonstration based on published studies.

>Scientific consensus
scientific consensus stems from meta-studies and experts that studied/published in a certain domain related to the consensus. Doctors (not even scientists who studied the virus) opinion is absolutely worthless.
I've a master degree in a domain that make me a thousand time more comptent to speak about virus than any doctor, if we're going by the authority argument.

I'm here to read them, so post them. Good way to start compiling them.

>1. Sample size was 11 and 40 in the chinese study and these are more recent than then the French study
>3. Hundreds of posters? There's like 20. Countless studies? There was one chinese in vitro that was pro HCQ, one in human French study that was pro HCQ, one double blind chinese study that was against HCQ, and this study. All other evidence is anecdotal.
4. These were all published in peer reviewed journals, I dont know what you are talking about

not sure if hydroxychloroquine will ever be used for prophylaxis or non-Severe even if it gives good results for severe infections. The balance wouldn't be worth it here for the under 60 population.

>science is not a democracy

Often times it is, for example there was a vote if Pluto is a planet or not.

>one in human French study that was pro HCQ
this one was made by a clown, it shouldn't even be considered as a real study.

If anyone has time :
les-crises.fr/le-professeur-didier-raoult-rebelle-anti-systeme-ou-megalomane-sans-ethique/
The guy behind the study shouldn't be considered as a scientist, he honestly should be jailed. (protect rapists, falsify/cheat on studies, doesnt belive in double-blind studies, doesnt belive in climate change etc.)

he's basically pol tier honestly.

>severe
who cares

That's not really science, that's merely semantics and arbitrary denomination/nomenclature.

I just googled OP link and found out that it is literally the only article that were used by reddit to refute any positive findings for hydroxychloroquine.
Los Angeles, French, India, New York etc all those positive news and response for hydroxychloroquine were refuted by this one article that they posted over and over again.

you dumb french nigger

The burden of the proof is not on "my" side, it's on the ones who are pushing for hydroxychloroquine whitout any major paradigm-changing study to back it up.

>no evidence or clinical benefit
here's evidence of clinical benefit
>but it's not published
link global study of over 6,000 doctors
>that doesn't count
>what goalpost?
you're a joke, fuck off.

>link global study of over 6,000 doctors
what did those 6,000 doctors study? What did they published on this drug? Link?

>here's evidence of clinical benefit
And I posted evidence of zero clinical benefit.

You know what meta studies are, right? For exemple, on being cut or not, there is basically 100 studies saying it's overall good, and 100 others saying it's not.

You schmucks. Multiple doctors from spain and italy are running clincical trials during this pandemic. Some doctors are saying although this isnt CURING people it CERTAINLY is PREVENTING DEATH at a rate of almost 100% The anti trump leftist media doesnt want America having any hope. This was their planned take over of the USA and the world planned decades ago. Too bad Hill dog wasnt in office to enforce immediate martial law nationwide and forced vaccination not too far behind. Since we have a president who values human rights and the constitution we dont have that and the cockroach MSM is doing everything it can to scare americans into blaming donald trump for EVERYTHING when it was the DONT BE A RACIST DEMOCRATS who were telling him banning travel from CHINA was RACIST. They helped create this mess so they could all spin it against trump just before election. Saying he raped women etc failed then the 2 yr waste of american tax dollar Russian collusion attack failed. Next it was impeachment THAT FAILED and as i told people mid impeachment trial, when this fails expect something BIG to get trump out of office next cause the anti american dems NEED to be in office to implement global government. Alex Jones predicted this in 2007 on his documentary Endgame. 2hr19m long if you google it you can still find this forbidden knowledge that literally said "in 2020 the global elite will use china to launch a bioweapon attack on the US to destroy its economy and eventually the nation so world wide martial law under global government can be rolled out without the US stopping it"

Yikes, did you actually write this?
Can boomers and their schizo rants stop being obessed about Trump? I couldn't give a fuck about the US presidents, stop being cringe.

I seriously can't believe fucking idiots are picking this hill to die on.

medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.02.20047050v1
>We report the change in the QT interval in 84 adult patients with SARS-CoV-2 infection treated with Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin combination. QTc prolonged maximally from baseline between days 3 and 4. in 30% of patients QTc increased by greater than 40ms. In 11% of patients QTc increased to >500 ms, representing high risk group for arrhythmia. The development of acute renal failure but not baseline QTc was a strong predictor of extreme QTc prolongation.

expressen.se/nyheter/carl-40-fick-kramp-och-syn-problem-av-coronamedicin/

Sweden just stopped using chloroquine, side effects are too harsh/not worth it.

I did link it, you didn't even bother to look at it before dismissing it, you're a faggot.

Study overview
Methodology
Wave I of Sermo’s COVID-19 Barometer Survey was launched on March 25 and fielded over three days. Physicians were not incentivized to participate in the study. The sample
represents physicians registered with Sermo, a secure digital (online) platform designed for physician networking and anonymous survey research. The platform is exclusive to verified
and licensed physicians.
Given the strategic importance of this topic, a total of 6,227 physicians across all specialties were sampled. The 30 countries included in the sample are United States, Canada,
Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Germany, Italy, UK, France, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Turkey, Poland, Russia, Finland, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Denmark, Norway,
Greece, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Australia, China, India and Hong Kong.
Results are reported for individual countries with a minimum sample size of 250. Such a sample size provides for point estimates with a +/- 6% precision at a 94% confidence level. In
situations where the sample size for a country is below 250, countries are aggregated to provide a meaningful regional view. No weighting factor was applied to any individual
sampling unit either in the selection of physicians who received an invite to participate or in any analysis conducted post-data collection.

public-cdn.sermo.com/covid19/c8/be4e/4edbd4/dbd4ba4ac5a3b3d9a479f99cc5/wave-i-sermo-covid-19-global-analysis-final.pdf

There seems to be such a strong hatred and pushback that is almost uniform by libleft groups. The fact that this one french post is resorting to libel and insults to defame people advocating for these drugs seems more of a political action rather than scientific.

>One doctor intentionally overdoses a patient
>Cancel it everywhere worldwide immediately

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You really, really fucking ought to start reading what you actually fucking post yourself.

that's a study (clinical trials), it's literally an opinion poll/survey, that's absolutely and totally worthless.
I'll have a Ben Shapiro moment here, but facts doesnt care about doctor's feelings.
I'm not even sure why they are asking doctors/physicians about this, why not poll the scientists that ever published anything related to viral drugs/coronavirus? That's retarded and a waste of money.

Can you amerifats stop injecting your retarded politics in everything? That's borderline mental illness.

>resorting to libel and insults
to facts and science*** I'm the one getting insulted by the retards here.

that's not a study***
anyway the real studies will come in the next weeks, cya losers.

>Results are reported for individual countries with a minimum sample size of 250.
>that's absolutely and totally worthless.
just stop.

>cya losers

French and their white flags.
Truly living up to their reputation.

You seem to be doubling down though on this not working even though you initially were more open.

All you sniveling limp wristed leftist cunts bowing down to the MSM and main stream science like theyre the only doctors and journalists in town. Doctors treating coronavirus patients have confirmed it helps at almost 100% from death. Yet you only need your "peer reviews" and other bs studies that are merely bottlenecking tools implemented by those who want to maintain their grip over the mainstream they work in. Peer review is a joke if the doctors and scientists on the peer board have financial benefit from something your research makes obsolete. Trump made the right move giving people THE RIGHT TO TRY during possible death causing sickness to give people HOPE and a fighting chance. But you leftist scum dont like that do you? You prefer everyone DO AS YOU SAY cause you video gaming skinny gril jean wearing mommas boys dont understand that theres multiple ways to skin a cat. That goes for just about anything in life. Medicine, music, women, fucking, fighting, fixing a car....medicine.....not all human bodies are the same you assholes. But you losers have become so disconnected from the real world all you idiots know is how to repeat MSM talking points, lines from shitty hollywood movies, and play video games amongs a handful of other useless things like knowing how to use mommys microwave just right that shes needed to replace since you turned 10. Now stop hating on the fact that trump is telling americans the truth about the help you can get from this drug. If you look at TONIC water (called TONIC water cause doctors used to prescibe people w the flu it to help them) because it has QUININE in it, ya know like hydroxychloroQUIN....same thing that they used to give the sick way back when and hey it actually does HELP. NOT a fix all but a minimizer of viral destruction. If you little faggots knew histroy and not just what your moms nipples looked like you might actually like trump and hydroxychloroquin. But you are little cunts so

Duuuuuude, the nice Chinese lady has already run it through the 3D homology modeling software and figured out how corona is raping your hemoglobin, hmmm hemoglobin, that sounds like malaria, so now I see how chloroquine might just be protecting hemoglobin

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>Get BLOWN THE FUCK OUT like predicted in
>HAHAH CYA LOSERS