Numerous government officials were at the table, including Fauci, coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx, Jared Kushner, acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf, and FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn.
Behind them sat staff, including Peter Navarro, tapped by Trump to compel private companies to meet the government's coronavirus needs under the Defense Production Act.
Toward the end of the meeting, Hahn began a discussion of the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which Trump believes could be a "game-changer" against the coronavirus.
Hahn gave an update about the drug and what he was seeing in different trials and real-world results.
Then Navarro got up. He brought over a stack of folders and dropped them on the table. People started passing them around.
"And the first words out of his mouth are that the studies that he's seen, I believe they're mostly overseas, show 'clear therapeutic efficacy,'" said a source familiar with the conversation. "Those are the exact words out of his mouth."
Navarro's comments set off a heated exchange about how the Trump administration and the president ought to talk about the malaria drug, which Fauci and other public health officials stress is unproven to combat COVID-19.
Fauci pushed back against Navarro, saying that there was only anecdotal evidence that hydroxychloroquine works against the coronavirus.
Researchers have said studies out of France and China are inadequate because they did not include control groups.
Fauci and others have said much more data is needed to prove that hydroxychloroquine is effective against the coronavirus.
As part of his role, Navarro has been trying to source hydroxychloroquine from around the world. He's also been trying to ensure that there are enough domestic production capabilities inside the U.S.
Fauci's mention of anecdotal evidence "just set Peter off," said one of the sources. Navarro pointed to the pile of folders on the desk, which included printouts of studies on hydroxychloroquine from around the world.
Navarro said to Fauci, "That's science, not anecdote," said another of the sources.
Navarro started raising his voice, and at one point accused Fauci of objecting to Trump's travel restrictions, saying, "You were the one who early on objected to the travel restrictions with China," saying that travel restrictions don't work. (Navarro was one of the earliest to push the China travel ban.)
Fauci looked confused, according to a source in the room. After Trump imposed the travel restrictions, Fauci has publicly praised the president's restriction on travel from China.
Pence was trying to moderate the heated discussion. "It was pretty clear that everyone was just trying to get Peter to sit down and stop being so confrontational," said one of the sources.
Eventually, Kushner turned to Navarro and said, "Peter, take yes for an answer," because most everyone agreed, by that time, it was important to surge the supply of the drug to hot zones.
The principals agreed that the administration's public stance should be that the decision to use the drug is between doctors and patients.
Trump ended up announcing at his press conference that he had 29 million doses of hydroxychloroquine in the Strategic National Stockpile.
James Hernandez
>which Trump believes could be a "game-changer" against the coronavirus wtf does he have with this shit? why does he necessarily believe that, i don't understand, does he think he's a doctor now? Or is it just because its an american thing that it must also respond to the covid stuff?
Camden Hernandez
BECAUSE IT IS. FAUCI IS A DEEP STATE HACK.
David Robinson
>said a source familiar with the conversation oh... its a bs article then
There are NO reliable tests that can accurately test for COVID-19. Because of that, any tests being done are done for cornaviruses in general, not specifically COVID-19, and then it is being diagnosed officially as COVID-19. Coronaviruses in general are so common, that most people have them to some degree at any given point in time, even though they are perfectly healthy, It is not enough to have a virus, it is crucial to know the viral load, because the viral load needs to be high enough for someone to get sick from it. The viral load is NOT BEING TESTED AT ALL. There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia patients in hospitals all over the world at any given time. Many patients are "presumed" to have COVID-19, without any test whatsoever. NOBODY is documenting actual cases of COVID-19. "... all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn't actually exist."
People are getting the regular annual flu and other Winter illnesses, but these cases are being diagnosed without proof that they are COVID-19.
In reality, COVID-19 does not exist.
This is why it is old people dying (as they do every year). This is why most people dying have "co-morbidities" (they are dying of something other than COVID-19). This is why the cases are worst in China, Italy, and Iran ... and now USA. Northern Italy has the largest Chinese population in Europe, and there are a lot of Chinese going between China and Iran, as well. The USA is now "testing" more people than anyone else in the world, and what do you know ... they are finding more people with coronavirus (ANY coronavirus) in their system. THIS. IS. A. HOAX.
Dr. Fauci is a Big Pharma vaccine promoter, and is drunk with new found power but I still trust him over trump
Sebastian Hernandez
If Trump fires Fauci, his poll numbers will tank. Fauci has built a name for himself through all of his interviews with leftys. He’s the reason Trump was given praise for COVID-19 response.
Tyler Sullivan
No they won't.
Henry Miller
Fauci is a deep state hack, he wants the country shut down for at least the next 12-18 months and then a forced vaccination regime His unfalsifiable "social distancing" hypothesis coupled with his turning a blind eye to hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness in reducing viral loads in covid-19 patients is the greatest case of medical malpractice ever documented Fuck him.
Nolan Gutierrez
BASED.
FUCKING BASED.
TRUMP JUST NAMED HCQ BY NAME DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE.
Grayson Evans
Yes they will. He’s not a doctor or health professional and neither are the people screaming DEEP STATE HACK.
Justin Martinez
Well guess what? Trump is promoting HCQ+Azithromicin right now. Fauci can sit on the side and be quiet.
Robert Stewart
>still no double-blind studies
Oh, yes thank you Dr.Trump(md)!
Jose Sanchez
CHAD NAVARRO
James Reed
Cope
Ryan Gonzalez
The scientists believe it could be a game changer you brainlet, he's listening to the scientists.
Xavier Lee
this. Navarro couldn't take Dr Doom's bullshit anymore and how he speaks out of both sides of his mouth.
Brandon Kelly
DEEP STATE HACK!!!!!!
Satisfied?
Kayden Cox
not surprising. western medical field is bloated in nearly all aspects. We haven't really had a pressing global health crisis that challenged the medical community to dump some of that bloat.
Connor Martinez
Throw him in jail for lying!!!
Ryder Jenkins
>comes to Yas Forums to shill but hasn't read the double blind studies pathetic
Alexander Peterson
To add to that, that French doctor who is having the biggest healing success rates of the virus in the entirety of Europe is France's leading authority on Coronaviruses for the last three decades. They are definitely on to something.
Benjamin Cooper
I hate these faggots like Facci....says there's no scientific evidence it helps....
Theres no fucking scientific evidence it HURTS and Doesn't Help EITHER COCK SUCKER
Are you STILL trying to peddle this talking point? Holy fucking shit you kikes are desperate.
Dylan Williams
Fauci is the kind of doctor that would start yelling at you in his office when you told him you take vitamin c and vitamin d everyday total big pharma tool.
Christian Rogers
Gonna be funny when Trump shills the HCQ across the U.S and he finds out it actually doesn't work? If it does work why are the death rates in the United States climbing despite increasing usage? If Trump told you MIGApedes to take cyanide you would do it.
Easton Williams
It is working worldwide faggot. India even is using it as a prophylactic.
Worse, evidence says it works. If he can't state the obvious then he's useless. Muh studies! Then do it motherfucker! Get a study done in ten days like you should have done before we had our first cases. Do your job piece of shit Fauci. You're fucking useless!
Why is the death rate climbing worldwide despite increasing usage of the drug? Especially in New York where it's being used by alot of hospitals.
Aaron Lewis
Toothpaste Go surrender to someone
Blake Russell
BECAUSE DEATHS ARE BEING ATTRIBUTED TO THE VIRUS WHETHER OR NOT IT CAUSED THE DEATH YOU INBRED KIKE PRICK.
David Gonzalez
>If it does work why are the death rates in the United States climbing > death rates we don't fucking know the actual death rate faggot and won't for quite a while. All we know is the total number of deaths recorded and coding guidelines inform physicians to code death as due to corona virus even in suspected cases where no test was done
John Bell
Even Joe Rogan's memepills have gone through a double placebo clinical trial.
