Why does Yas Forums blame women for feminism when men allowed them to have power in the first place...

Both men and women are to blame.

Women, contrary to what most people here say, have the power of logic and reasoning just as men do. They often just do not exercise it on world issues in the way that men do, and are often blind to the woes of the opposite sex. Yes, men gave women power. Some men gave it because they love women and had good intentions. Some men gave it knowing it would subvert and damage our culture.

Everyone shares a bit of blame, unless they are a tradwife/tradhusband who is actively working on fixing this clown world.

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>women did bad
>men didn't stop it
>men are at fault

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Knew a guy in AA who blew the front of his face off with bird shot. Too bad too stupid lol

>using birdshit
00 buck or bust faggot

I mean yeah if u wanna pretenderizr ur whole duck but u do u and have duck pudding

your pic is horrifically survivable

You mean Christian feminists

my wife and me

Protip: Feminism benefits men more than women as they now can have sex with any women they please, father any child and not deal with any of the consequences.

>Women, contrary to what most people here say, have the power of logic and reasoning just as men do
This.
>Some men gave it knowing it would subvert and damage our culture.
Wait why would women “subvert and damage our culture” because they got the right to vote??
Most men realized that it was the moral thing to do to give women equal rights since women are just as smart on average as men are.

That leads to situations like pic-related

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>Women, contrary to what most people here say, have the power of logic and reasoning just as men do.
Wrong. Have you ever met a woman?

He's right.

The only way to take back the world for white middle class Western males is to create a new religion. and make it trendy. Women respond to two things: fashion and spirituality. And when I say "fashion," I mean anything that can be fashionable, including ideas and beliefs, not just clothing or shoes.

Put the two together, and you've got yourself a cult.

Put the two together, in an organized way, with tens of thousands of successful, stable white males, you've got yourself a religion in which successful, stable white males call the shots again.

that’s decent reconstructive surgery desu, she had folded dick in her face

i hope she knows that she will survive that buckshot and just blow her face off

How is it that she felt suicidal when she was hot then became a fat, blind, crippled sewer mutant and now is mentally fine with it.

women, am I right? shoots her face off to virtue signal

Their logic and reasoning works in the field of emotions, that being said, it is way fucking different than what men call logic.

classic utah mormon freemason backyard birthday party

She was suicidal because some chad dumped her. Yeah no joke that's why she did it.

>Wait why would women “subvert and damage our culture” because they got the right to vote??
Women are naturally programmed for certain micro behaviors, just as men are. These behaviors are things like empathy, a need to nurture, care for others, seek fairness, etc. When you apply these pro-family and pro-community micro behaviors on a macro scale (government, voting) you end up with bloated social welfare programs, mass immigration, women in the workforce, anti male regulations, etc.

I am not married to you.

Yes. Yes I have... I am married.

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>Women are naturally programmed for certain micro behaviors, just as men are. These behaviors are things like empathy, a need to nurture, care for others, seek fairness, etc. When you apply these pro-family and pro-community micro behaviors on a macro scale (government, voting) you end up with bloated social welfare programs, mass immigration, women in the workforce, anti male regulations, etc.
Idk, maybe you’re right, but I feel like if women lose the right to vote only men’s interests would only really get represented whereas women’s interests and perspectives would just get ignored either because men don’t take them seriously, misunderstand them or just don’t know about them. So I feel like even if you didn’t allow women to vote which is something that I really really don’t want to happen women still need to get representation in the government so that laws and stuff aren’t just made from men’s perspective if that makes sense to you.

If you want to get really particular about blame, all the blame rests on people who are long dead, male or female. Every suffragette and every man who signed on the dotted line is long in a grave. Even the politicians who passed the Civil Rights Act are either in a hole in the ground or far gone from their life in the public sphere.

What really is the point of assigning "blame" in this fashion?

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>don't blame the venomous snake, it is programmed to nip you
Oh ok. I'm programmed to hate that which destroys me. Now what, faggot?

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OP, where'd you get that picture?

Pic related looks Slavic, not White.

>You should be mad at betas
Betas had nothing to do with this. In fact, betas profited most from women not having the right to choose, as they would rather choose to be sidechicks of alfas than wives of betas. (that's how marriage civilised people and made everyone contribute to society)
Women gained rights by a domino effect, where increasing life expectancy fucked up social services, so more contributors were needed to fund the pensions of the retired people, who no longer lived up till 70, but up till 75 (multiply it by several hundred thousands and you will understand why it is a problem). And at work they simply had to be treated fairly, while at home they had to have fewer responsibilities.
Sure, looking back, with the family gone, it has all come to shit. Society was always built out of families, like a house is built out of bricks. But are you sure you would have taken a better decision back then, had you been in charge?

And Yas Forums says women can't fall in love.

because it's easier to blame one side even though fuckups usually come from multiple angles. Current politics is a good example

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You are falling victim to their psyop. They want men to hate women. They want women to hate men. This gives them power and weakens the white race. Stop falling for their tricks. You need to guide women and help them see what is going on, love them, nurture them, and they will do the same for you. No human is perfect, People make mistakes. People do dumb and foolish things. People do hurtful things. The best you can do is the best you can do, and even then, you may falter or make a mistake that harms others. This applies to everyone. Women are victims in this mess as well as men are. Do you really think that young girls in their teens and early 20s dream of being 60, alone, with 12 cats? Do you really believe that is their end goal? They are victims, too.

Men and women are inherently different. Women are not suited to take part in the macro game that is large scale government and economics. Their nurturing, forgiving, and caring nature creates systems that are not sustainable, and end up causing men to opt out as there is little reward to high productivity. This is not their goal, this is a symptom of them dabbling in things they do not fully understand. There are things that women are naturally well suited for, and there are things that men are naturally well suited for. National politics is not a place where women are well suited. It is a harsh reality. I do not like it myself, but it is true. Women have a hard time accepting human nature and economic realities. Only through direct trial, error, and experience do they often learn these things. By then it is too late.

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Well I don’t agree with that. I think that women should be able and some women not all just like with men are suited for macro politics. I also think that especially in the legal system women are needed since we need women to help shape laws too so that laws aren’t only made for men’s perspective. Do you agree with that women should at least be apart of shaping laws?
>Women have a hard time accepting human nature and economic realities.
What do you mean by that? Oh, also are you against women in the workforce and getting educated and stuff?

To men, "equality" was rational. 1 + 1 = 2
To women it was more of a will these idiots fall for it?
Patriarchy could also be called rationalism.
Now there are decent women out there but most are not suitable for anything involving loyalty. I do hope that younger guys get better at discernment when it comes to females, and no be a pussy-begger. I does get easier with age and wisdom.

she's doing it wrong

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It wasn't betas. It was alphas. They destroyed society so they could fuck more women.

we're mad because we trusted them, the men couldn't tell women would ruin society if you gave them just few laws, it's like you let your wife go meet with her friends and she fucks a nigger

>Holy fuck dude who is the dumbass father that allowed this picture?
This was 100% taken by the girl's mother.

I do believe women should have some say in how laws are made, as their unique perspective can prove quite valuable. But far too often, women shape laws based on emotion rather than hard facts and logic. Not all women are like this - I am making a generalization here. Appeals to emotion have almost no place in the political sphere, especially in regards to international policies like economics and immigration. Women also tend to overwhelmingly support social welfare systems that ultimately cause damage to societal cohesion (read: The Family.)

>What do you mean by that? Oh, also are you against women in the workforce and getting educated and stuff?
Human nature is self serving, often violent. Women who vote in favor of mass immigration and social welfare typically have well intentions. But the hard fact is that mass immigration causes demographic replacement, increased crime, decreased birthrates among the native population (read: Whites have fewer kids when surrounded by non-whites, due to high crime rates and poor economic status,) increased racial tensions, decreasing quality of life, skyrocketing cost of living, reduced job opportunities, stagnating wages. Social welfare programs encourage joblessness and a reliance on the state, enabling lazy people to continue to thrive on the taxpayer dollar. I won't go into deep detail on social welfare, but it is often abused and contributes to higher crime rates and societal degradation.

Anything that harms the nuclear family harms the entire society. The nuclear family is the smallest unit of civilization, and if the very base materials that make up civilization are weakened, the entire structure is threatened. Imagine of the concrete in a building began to liquefy back into cement, water, and sand. Men are cement. Women are sand. Water is marriage.

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Nigger Jews did and they jumped for it. Men didn't just give it to them kike. Sage

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Exactly men are competing against eachother all the time there isn't a brotherhood making it easier for men , it's the opposite while women tend to create sisterhoods because they can't compete individually against men. The men who had power gathered and devised a plan to make it even more harder for other men to compete with them. They created feminism and put women in the workplace. men now have to compete with men and women and are disadvantaged by a society that has decided to "empower" women in every possible way.

Being on the hook for 18+ years of child support expenses (many of which aren't even necessary) doesn't sound like "no consequences" to me.

Females being important and men being disposable is so deep in this world that even viruses and bacteria discriminate.

That's only if you're dumb enough to
>Give her your real name and contact information
>Bring her to your place
>Let her see you in a well lit environment or while YOU aren't wearing make up

It's about being a whole different man when fucking a woman for one night to get her preggers. It's a whole different thing to do all that wife and family stuff.

What a stupid question. It's because at this very moment, most women are ruined. The men here are not, at least not in the same way. The men in this forum had nothing to do with feminism ever coming into existence. Young women didn't either, but they did get ruined by it. That's what young men see. Ruined women.

>I do believe women should have some say in how laws are made, as their unique perspective can prove quite valuable. But far too often, women shape laws based on emotion rather than hard facts and logic. Not all women are like this - I am making a generalization here.
That’s good at least. In what ways do you think women should have a voice in shaping laws btw? I also don’t think that men tend to be better at making decisions based on logic.
>Appeals to emotion have almost no place in the political sphere, especially in regards to international policies like economics and immigration
Fair enough
>Women also tend to overwhelmingly support social welfare systems that ultimately cause damage to societal cohesion (read: The Family.)
I’ll try and read the family though right now at least I think that the welfare state is a good thing.
>Human nature is self serving, often violent. Women who vote in favor of mass immigration and social welfare typically have well intentions. But the hard fact is that mass immigration causes demographic replacement, increased crime, decreased birthrates among the native population (read: Whites have fewer kids when surrounded by non-whites, due to high crime rates and poor economic status,) increased racial tensions, decreasing quality of life, skyrocketing cost of living, reduced job opportunities, stagnating wages
Fair enough and I’ll look into that!

>In what ways do you think women should have a voice in shaping laws
Giving advice to her husband.

Matriarchy is the natural state of humanity, as most men are subservient to women. The patriarchal societies that gave rise to the great civilizations were always on shaky ground in that sense, and we are now reverting to primitive life until a new patriarchal force can establish itself. We'll just have to wait it out, because right now there is nothing we can do to roll back the empancipatory currents. Don't be pathetic and try to shame or bully women into becoming 'trad', it won't work and the idea relies on erroneous assumptions about 'female nature'.

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When I say read: The Family, I don't literally mean read a book. I just mean that social welfare is damaging to society through damage it causes to the family specifically.

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Still too risky. In this day and age, technology allows anyone to be tracked down eventually.

>Social welfare programs encourage joblessness and a reliance on the state, enabling lazy people to continue to thrive on the taxpayer dollar. I won't go into deep detail on social welfare, but it is often abused and contributes to higher crime rates and societal degradation.
I don’t really agree with you on that and personally I think it’s a good thing to have social safety nets.
>Anything that harms the nuclear family harms the entire society. The nuclear family is the smallest unit of civilization, and if the very base materials that make up civilization are weakened, the entire structure is threatened. Imagine of the concrete in a building began to liquefy back into cement, water, and sand. Men are cement. Women are sand. Water is marriage.
I think I’d agree with that, though there are tons and tons of abusive marriages sadly so I still think that we need decent divorce laws for example and ways that the state should help you if you were totally reliant on your partner and that partner became abusive or cheated so that your only options aren’t to stay with a shitty partner and to starve or something.

The defeat of the Confederacy in the American Civil War caused liberal notions like "rights" and practical notions like suffrage to be extended to larger and larger groups, and the increased enforcement of punishment for any resistance to it. It was inevitable women would get the vote after niggers got it.

>You are falling victim to their psyop
I was a victim to it before I was born.

>They want women to hate men
Women already hate men.

>They want men to hate women
Irrelevant. Hate in this case is a natural reaction. I hate women on their own merits.

>women are victims too
Fuck off

Oh :/
I’m stupid lol, I thought you mean a book or something called “the family”. Why do you think that social welfare causes damage to the family and is there evidence that less social welfare means stronger families??

This why the fuck the fuck beta and incel are so entitled to have sex if everything is not equal

Don't worry we're just as pissed at the simps

>In what ways do you think women should have a voice in shaping laws btw?
As another poster said, perhaps male politicians should be encouraged to seek input from a female perspective when drafting laws. Perhaps from their wife, sister, daughters who are of age. Perhaps females should be included in committees in some form. But ultimately, women best serve the nation through support of family and community rather than direct involvement at the top of governments.

>I also don’t think that men tend to be better at making decisions based on logic.
Men are also very susceptible to emotions in decision making. So much that men often devote their entire lives to gaining power, wealth, and productivity in order to better attract females. Yes, men are vulnerable to emotion. But when it comes to macro issues, I believe they are better able to filter out emotion and not fall victim to empathy for populations they have never met, have no stake in, and that actively want to destroy them.

Basically, look at our current social landscape compared to how it was 50, 70, 90, 120 years ago. Compare our current way of life to these time periods, focusing on how the family has changed over time. Today, families have little value to people. Many people are not actively seeking to start a family and raise children. In history, it was the natural progression in life that nearly all sought. You were not complete until you had children. Today, people consider themselves complete once they have a degree and a job, despite having no partner, no children, only casual sex off of tinder.

Any laws or social behaviors that are damaging to, or dis-incentivize family formation, are bad for civilization. Remember: Men are cement, women are sand, marriage is water. Combine those and you get concrete, which is a fruitful family with children.

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That pic is awful

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i dont think animefags should procreate

Social welfare encourages divorce. (alimony, child support, welfare for single mothers.) Social welfare also encourages having children out of wedlock through the same programs. Public school, a form of social welfare, is a 'free' day care for children old enough to attend.

Any program or social practice that allows child raising outside of a nuclear family is destructive. Take these programs away, and the number of single mothers and the rate of divorce will drop. Empowered, educated women in the workforce also means no need for women to marry for financial security. While I do not believe women should be slaves to men, I believe that family is absolutely critical to civilization and national security.

This is not something we can change overnight. Or even over a generation. The damage runs deep and may very well require a societal reset (huge collapse, unrest, war) to fix.

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>Perhaps from their wife, sister, daughters who are of age. Perhaps females should be included in committees in some form.
Oh okay, but you don’t think that women should be able to vote on laws directly right? :/
>But ultimately, women best serve the nation through support of family and community rather than direct involvement at the top of governments.
Do you think that women should be able to vote in local elections then at least?
>Men are also very susceptible to emotions in decision making. So much that men often devote their entire lives to gaining power, wealth, and productivity in order to better attract females. Yes, men are vulnerable to emotion. But when it comes to macro issues, I believe they are better able to filter out emotion and not fall victim to empathy for populations they have never met, have no stake in, and that actively want to destroy them.
I don’t really agree with that, but I could be wrong I guess.
>Basically, look at our current social landscape compared to how it was 50, 70, 90, 120 years ago. Compare our current way of life to these time periods, focusing on how the family has changed over time. Today, families have little value to people. Many people are not actively seeking to start a family and raise children. In history, it was the natural progression in life that nearly all sought. You were not complete until you had children. Today, people consider themselves complete once they have a degree and a job, despite having no partner, no children, only casual sex off of tinder.
I feel like we get degrees and jobs FOR starting a family often though which I think is a good thing. And also I think that people would also have tons of casual sex in the past if contraceptives existed back in the day.
>Any laws or social behaviors that are damaging to, or dis-incentivize family formation, are bad for civilization.
Which laws and social behaviors would you say are bad to family formation that we have?

What about those who watch only based anime?

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AMEN, BROTHER

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>Social welfare encourages divorce. (alimony, child support, welfare for single mothers.) Social welfare also encourages having children out of wedlock through the same programs. Public school, a form of social welfare, is a 'free' day care for children old enough to attend.
But what do you do with the kids who are born outside of marriage though since it’s not their fault at all that they were born that way?? It seems a bit cruel to me to remove social welfare for those people.
>Any program or social practice that allows child raising outside of a nuclear family is destructive. Take these programs away, and the number of single mothers and the rate of divorce will drop.
Maybe you’re right, but like I said life would suck for those kids who are born outside of marriage even more if you did that.
>Empowered, educated women in the workforce also means no need for women to marry for financial security. While I do not believe women should be slaves to men, I believe that family is absolutely critical to civilization and national security.
But they will be slaves to their husbands basically if they aren’t allowed to work and have to be dependent on him. Especially if they aren’t allowed to divorce or get social benefits :|
>This is not something we can change overnight. Or even over a generation. The damage runs deep and may very well require a societal reset (huge collapse, unrest, war) to fix.
That we agree on lol

That doesn't look based...

"Animefags" can be some of the most red-pilled, loving, loyal, caring, nurturing, and intelligent people around.

If a woman 'rescues' a weeaboo male from foreveraloneness, he will be loyal, caring, and grateful. Weeaboos often have seen many a wholesome family anime like K-On!, Clannad, Spice and Wolf, Tamako Market, and have been instilled with many pro-family pro-white pro-ethnostate values.

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