>Dumbest response yet: "Notice how his manifesto contains multiple, seemingly contradictory viewpoints: I.e., an apparently environmentalist stance while denouncing all forms of Leftism."
I've been making progress with the preplist, but nothing too major. I have troubles with chapters "Settlement", "Medicine" and "Hunting and Fishing". It would be good if these troubles are resolved in this thread.
Also, please put in the OP that the preplist is incomplete for now.
Isaiah Long
agreed. i too lol'ed
Adam Phillips
The coronavirus, if widespread enough and causing enough damage (physical and economic) could be a once in 100 years chance for opportunists to push an anti technological movement, but in all likelihood theres a 99% chance it will be squandered because people are lazy and fucking retarded.
We are rapidly approaching a point in history and technological escalation where what it means to be human will be forever lost, and a crossroads of opportunity may soon be encountered that if squandered may never be experienced again.
Eli Cook
i keep on repeating, the iron is hot, it must be struck
Joshua Flores
Don't know much at all about those subjects unfortunately......
No problem, Argie. Other chapters can always use some updating. If you know something, fell free to contribute (although creating the FAQ alone makes you the MVP of /TKG/).
Lol. There are some VERY MINOR grammatical errors that could be polished; if you like, once the preplist is closer to being finished we can address them. Would more than happy to help with that, and at least make a small contribution in that way.
The fact that pastebin has numbered lines would make it very easy to do a back and forth pointing out corrections on this line or that line.
It's up to you.
Ryan Powell
There is no mention on how to build a fire.
Jack Perry
.... You'd better not quit now that he died then....
I'm thinking the same, but I dunno. All we can do is spread propaganda, and words without actions are worthless. And as the American said, theres a 99% chance it will be squandered because people are lazy and fucking retarded.
Jack Fisher
>"I'm gonna do it bois. I'm gonna go innawoods lads. I'm gonna give up my Yas Forums addiction. I'm gonna give up my easy life and instantly switch to doing manual labor 14 hours a day. I really really seriously really mean it for real this time bros." says increasingly desperate larper for the second time today
> 5. Do you realize that billions of people will die after the tech-system collapses, possibly including yourselves? And you still want to destroy the tech-system? Are you insane?! I would leave this out. I think it belongs in the FAQ
Lucas Thomas
Have you read teds works? Propaganda and meme spreading has its place and is supplemental, but on those grounds alone no change will take place.
Ian Brooks
search fire piston, its easy to make, and works on compression ignition. pretty much the same way a diesel engine works
Brandon Wood
A self sufficient life innawoods is like 3 or 4 hours of difficult but rewarding labor daily and then 12 hours of relaxing and enjoying the beauty of nature
Samuel Morales
> Masturbating is acceptable as long as it is infrequent (once a month, tops) and you don't ejaculate, but you should try to not to that, either, for your own good. This seems out of place in the preplist
Julian Rogers
You underestimate the value of the Word, and of propaganda, user.
effective propaganda ALWAYS leads to action of some sort. This is a fact stated and proven by Ellul himself.
Furthermore, the real revolution will win by attrition. At least in flag-related, normies are going innawoods BY THE THOUSANDS, without any kind of redpill except for seeing their shitty lives being squandered in the rat-race. In this globalized globohomo world, this SURELY cannot be an exclusively argie phenomenon.
There are more accessible ways to make fire that are not difficult. I looked it up, and it’s a steel device. How do you suppose people make these when SHTF?
David Allen
Yeah, I know. I have a dilemma as to in which chapter to explain how to build a fire.
Nolan Lewis
More on this please, is that really so....?
The whole working 14 hours a day thing sounds like an absolute meme, but really, just 3 or 4 hours a day.....?
William Wilson
a small group of commited people create the change. The rest herd can just need to nod in yes, they actually dont need to do anything, because they actually are not doing anything. They are mere pets of techno-industrial system, kept for entertainment. They are already obsolete, thanks to technology. So , imo, all that needs to be done is show them that they are obsolete, expendable commodities as long as this system goes on
Andrew Hall
Maybe tomorrow's thread should absolutely be 'RIP Linkola Edition', or something to that effect...
Carter Phillips
can be made with wood
James Walker
Death of Linkola and Its Consequences Have Been a Disaster For The Human Race
By 1865 European explorers had reached the jungles of Indonesia where they found firepiston use well established and widespread. Areas of distribution included Burma, the Malay Peninsula, French Indo-China and Borneo. From some of these areas it made its way to the East Island Archipelagos and the Philippines.
One thing I'd often pondered was the discovery by essentially stone-age people of a technology with such meticulous conditions for successful operation. I finally decided that it could have been an accidental discovery somehow connected to blow gun manufacture. The Woodsmoke article came to the same conclusion adding that perhaps during the process of boring or gauging them, there may have been compression of air that ignited material in the bore or perhaps on the rod. Reference was also made to the fact that oriental blow guns often occur in the same areas where the firepiston is found. In addition, speculation was made that perhaps when making blow guns of bamboo they would use a rod to pop out the nodes between the sections and that the discovery was accidentally made during this operation. In any event, the discovery was made. The distribution of firepistons was so widespread by the time of those first European explorers that it indicates knowledge of the necessary technology for ages. It continues to be used in some areas right up to the present as witnessed by U.S. Navy survival instructor Mel DeWeese.
Cooper King
Added it in the chapter "Settlement" under the "House" section.
Any and all forms of self-improvement belong in a preplist, and nofap is one of them.
David Perez
This sounds like the social distancing and stay at home cult
Hunter Cooper
As far as I can recall, Ted himself said in ATR on the AnPrim chapter that 3-4 hours of work is a total meme. Obviously everything depends on what exactly ''innawoods'' means. Excellent fishing area? Yeah you can probably get easily a day's work done in 3 hours. Hunting and foraging wild roots and processing them is more time consuming.
The critical difference is what counts as work. Many of innawoods activities are actually enjoyable and not tedious. Is fixing up a place considered work or leisure? Is processing food work or leisure? Is childcare work or leisure? If you hate everything about simple tasks of life, yeah it will be a lot of ''work''.
Hello, i’m almost a total normie (with bad use of the english lenguage). Is there any sort of aproach to “start moving out of the industrial society” but with out resorting to buy homestead?
Maybe to help others to ease the use of technology, or to help our family/friends withing our normie means. I hope you anons could understand the point.
>At least in flag-related, normies are going innawoods BY THE THOUSANDS, without any kind of redpill except for seeing their shitty lives being squandered in the rat-race. That may be so where you live, Argie. But in my flag related, there is little where I can go. Nature here is very commercialized, so to speak. Most of the thick and old woods became national parks and are very tourist-oriented. Ted's cabin is unachievable there.
Nah, the method shown in the YT link here , starting at 3:18 timestamp. Very simple and effective indeed, and requires only the crudest of tools and technique.
Ryder Adams
it may be okey for once, but think if you need to do it everytime. plus the video cuts in between so i am not sure how long it takes. that process is not easily repeatable. fire piston does it in one blow, almost instantaneously
>The critical difference is what counts as work. Many of innawoods activities are actually enjoyable and not tedious. Is fixing up a place considered work or leisure? Is processing food work or leisure? Is childcare work or leisure? If you hate everything about simple tasks of life, yeah it will be a lot of ''work''.
This is a very good point.
1850's agriculture (just to name a fairly random date) must have been grueling though, not only for humans but other mammals as well, oxen, work-horses, etc.
Still laugh every single time at pic related, the most hilarious thing is how Teds face goes from being a color photo a a black and white photo, don't know why, but it is hilarious.
For sure. Gardening small plots if enjoyable but if agriculture is all you do it surely is tedious and time-consuming. Many feudal peasants were literally not allowed to hunt or fish, so they had little choice. Enjoyable innawoods life that includes hunting and fishing alongside permaculture is definitely not a viable option to feed large masses of people.
Robert Hughes
This guy consistently starts a fire in 2 minutes with the most basic materials. It’s OK to do every time, actually. If you can fashion a fire piston, fine. What if it is misplaced and you need to set up camp soon?
Ryder Russell
>Many feudal peasants were literally not allowed to hunt or fish
What the fuck, as if life wasn't hard enough already.......
>Enjoyable innawoods life that includes hunting and fishing alongside permaculture is definitely not a viable option to feed large masses of people
Thanks, I have being reading it. It’s the kind of thing i’m looking for, but that preplist goes directly to permaculture, and I want the normies of the normiest approach. Don’t get my wrong, that list is much more than I ever wrote, it’s very good.
But I need some direct aproach to my normie friends. Example: stop buying magic cards, buy seconds hand books instead. I know I probably sound like a little baby, but I’m just trying to help my closed ones, they care about capeshit and all that, and almost all the literature I read about collapse goes fast to the “bugout bag” method.
i say again, the shots are cut in between, so we dont know how long it takes plus lighting a fire quickly is a matter of life or death, if you need to light a beacon for signalling help or to inform of enemy approach. though i agree its the most primitive method, and it shall do the trick, every time, but its not the most repeatable one, or the one with least effort. ladies would all the time need to light fire(chads need to be well fed), and those methods are not apt for them
Nicholas Wilson
>>Enjoyable innawoods life that includes hunting and fishing alongside permaculture is definitely not a viable option to feed large masses of people >No doubt Nooooo how will I ever get by without being surrounded by thousands of niggers and spics constantly?????
delanceyplace.com/view-archives.php?p=2846 >"The forager economy provided most people with more interesting lives than agriculture or industry do. Today, a Chinese factory hand leaves home around seven in the morning, makes her way through polluted streets to a sweatshop, and there operates the same machine, in the same way, day in, day out, for ten long and mind-numbing hours, returning home around seven in the evening in order to wash dishes and do the laundry. Thirty thousand years ago, a Chinese forager might leave camp with her companions at, say, eight in the morning. They'd roam the nearby forests and meadows, gathering mushrooms, digging up edible roots, catching frogs and occasionally running away from tigers. -maybe you have time for yuval noah harari, maybe you dont
Eli Butler
Agree that SIGlist and Preplist could remain separate, even if they overlap a lot. Both are huge subjects and it's going book length if they are not separated. That's just me. They are in fact so long that it might be eventually considered essential to separate the topics even further.
Kevin Clark
I'll repeat. It takes a couple of minutes, and a literal DYEL can do it. You can use your fire-piston dildo for beacons if you want, but everyone should know how to build a fire from the more basic materials.
