Thinking back how it was so good at instantly breaking the conditioning of many people, but not only that, it was the elephant on the room that everyone tried to censor, but kept going till the eventual gatekeepers tried to make a buck and sanitize it.
When it was on roll it was just effective, it was the boogieman of the left, it broke to mainstream media, it woke up thousands (or probably millions) of people.
In the last years we found out with proof that Google is trying to social engineer everyone, mingling in USA elections to not elect Trump, that CNN, NY times, media matters, are just branches of the democratic establishment, that colleges are brainwashing and intimidating students, but there's not a single peep anywhere and they just brush it off.
How come that a bunch of autists can create a wave more effective than the whole right over a bunch of anime boobs ?
Why was GG effective ?
>How come that a bunch of autists can create a wave more effective than the whole right over a bunch of anime boobs ?
Because you can't beat honesty.
Like every empire, ideology or cancer you can only expand so far before you either fuck yourself or someone else comes along and fucks you.
Gaming makes more money than Hollywood so they wanted it but they approached it with the same old tired tactics when the very definition of gaming is every different game you play is a different scenario and forces you to adapt and react.
The boomers behind the scenes got BTFO by gamers because success made them lazy it's that simple
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature.
Cont.
Cont.
We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
> HH and 88
I feel blessed.
I think that there was a demoralizing aspect after GG died, at the time they were all "no one is taking your boobs", now there's not a fucking media piece that is not (((PC))) approved.
Looking back is difficult to understand why it kept for so long, while the same stuff (and much worse) happens everyday but in the big leagues, it's not a danger hair saying "Lara Croft causes rapists" it's colleges funded by taxpayers teaching kids that males are toxic, it's not "this game needs more gays" is the biggest corporations in the world banning everyone that challenges the narrative (hell, Alex Jones was banned from Itunes with a fanfare and applause), it's not a bunch of articles saying gamers are dead, it's google literally saying they'll try to defeat Trump.
But nothing gets a fucking reaction anymore, is like we have accepted they won, let's be good goys and keep consuming.
They were getting BTFO, till they didn't.
And now the "we are not taking your games away" is "the ethics department said no boobs". We used to make fun of "it's year 2XXX", now we just take it.
They fucking won (well, GG screwed itself by selfpolicing, being "about journalism", "we love gays too", gatekeeping and all that fag shit.
Look at FF7R and Cyberpunk2077, the biggest games coming this year, Tifa got "ethic department'd" and the chick in CB77 now looks like a tranny, tranny propaganda included.
I don't think this is the calm before the storm, I think this is it, yes, they won and we just take it and consume.
They definitely thought they "won" and had sealed the deal with their media puff peices and revisionist history wikipedia article but it was the equivalent of the Germans declaring they won in 1942 and just expecting everyone to accept it and give up, they didn't expect us to infiltrate their secret chatroom, dig up the DARPA links and keep going like having been there at the time I'll never forget the media all pushing out the same talking point all at once to declare themselves Victor's that's when the mask slipped and no one who was around at the time will forget it
Normies are getting fed up.
They're overplaying their hand.
Because "gamers" are 1 a very ambiguous group that has no clear definition so you can say anything and 2 are almost entirely incapable of violence.
Now lets add on that the entire thing started because some whore slept with men for reviews and now apply that same principle to news coverage and you have a very poorly defined argument that is one sided
+ I forgot to add they made the same fatal mistake with Trump they just declared themselves Victors half way in the war and didn't bank us people seeing through their bullshit or continuing to fight against me but don't get me wrong they will have learnt it from it as well all the puppets and assets that got burnt like Zoe/Anita and the journalists at the time who have been laughed into irrelevance can always be easily replaced for the next push
#GG was a loss on our part. Now, trannies and cucks are now part and parcel to the hobby, and are never going to leave.
It wasn't effective, video games went in the direction of comics with SJW pandering. 99% of western devs and publishers swing far left and most localization publishers practice censorship and other forms of tampering to maintain their narrative.
That being said real problems are coming to modern civilization and this petty bullshit will be forced off of the face of the Earth. SJWs keep screeching and no one can even pretend to give a fuck about them anymore. Corporations will prioritize survival and won't have the luxury of forcing agendas at a potential loss.
GG being grass roots helped tremendously; the anti-GG side was mostly just a small vocal group.
I also didn't help anti-GG that they gave anyone that went against the consensus the GG stamp, so GG got more support every time they uttered a word.
That's bad and all, but I don't see how it has anything to do with GG.
>now apply that same principle to news coverage and you have a very poorly defined argument that is one sided
???
I don't understand what that means, GG started forming when it was impossible to criticize anita anywhere (and all the media "pro gamer" were all "yup, games are patriarchy, seems about right". That Zoe left a path of cum anywhere she went was just luck on our part.
But now look at mainstream media, Google employees filmed on camera saying they'll try to social engineer people against Trump, and literally nothing happens. There are tons of evidence of fake news, banning and SJW bullshit everywhere, much more than during GG (and on a higher scale), but GG lasted for YEARS and it really put most people on notice to their scheme.
Yeah. GG ended up loosing the grip on the narrative after it devolved into a faggy "it's about journalism" and not the "fuck these SJW", but at the time it was very effective, and it was a redpill wave for many people, they tried to throw everything but GG was keeping strong, at the end it was the same GGers that got tired of the "centrists" bullshit and lost steam.
Now, there are hundreds of worse things happening, but there's not a single event like it happened during GG, so to me that was clearly a lot more effective than the "it's just how things are goy, keep consuming goy" we have now.
It was a babby's first redpill moment where something innocuous (vidya) turned out to be an ideological battleground. So people who had no interest or concept of politics/meta-politics found themselves with in it. Ultimately it's what turned this board into an unreadable mess and a sanctimonious "consumer revolt" is inherently cringe, though.
Gamergate was a loss. All SJWs involved raised their profiles, got betabux and all the media took their side. Damn misogynists need to grow up and respect wahmen.
However, GG was a Pyrrhic victory. It was the last progressive win before traditionalists exploded and decided to support such a reactionary as Trump.
Of course the vast majority of Trump voters have no idea of GG, but they were surely aware of that relentlessness assault on Western Civilization on all fronts, cultural, academic, media, etc. The continuous cultural battles, of which GG was only one, in which the entirety of media and establishment took the progressive (or degenerate as it would be called here) side made the conservatives/traditionalists explode and actually supporting a radical populist who just a couple of years earlier, wouldnt stand a chance.
Sadly, this seems the last traditionalist hurrah, somewhat akin to an Ardennes Offensive. With still all media and most of the establishment on their favour (Trump is just a blimp on the radar and not an ideologue) We will lose in the end
>Corporations will prioritize survival and won't have the luxury of forcing agendas at a potential loss.
Lesser corporations and companies go suicidal on purpose with some of that shit. They don't care. And you know why? Because the failing company will lower its value and be acquired by a bigger corporation with the same agenda, for scraps. The agenda won't change. Many, many of these HR faggots and hambeasts won't be forced to "learn to code".
You know how a company like these can be sanitized? If an absolutely unapologetic right winger in the know of SJW mechanics outbids the Corporate offer and purchases them first. And then proceeds to eradicate the cancer from the company in the most ruthless way, assuring to deal a blow so hard that the demoralization is permanent and countless of subversive, therefore valueless lives, are ruined.
didnt Doom Eternal cuck out also and tone down the demon immigration angle as well?
I remember the trailer, haven't played the game.
It sucks if that happened.
Nobody gives a fuck about GG, except numale pussies still playing with toys.
>he's not fighting against the forces destroying our modern myths
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It was pretty much the biggest push against SJW globalist agenda in entertainment.
Sorry, but if you are in pol (that outright banned GG), you can't act all high and mighty.
The perception within small gaming cliques such as Yas Forums is that they were outing everyone and making a wave truth of the matter is that no one cared outside those cliques instead the cum guzzlers and liars just went on TV and had an effect of diminishing the view of "Gamers"
It was all really just some really low ball shit nobody actually cared about. Also the 5 guys burger and fries shit is what led this to catch on as brazzen whores were defending it
No, it really didn't achieve much
The same lefty retards, are still in control of games journalism
It's a problem with the journalist profession as a whole, and gamergate wasn't prepared, sizeable, or capable enough to tackle that institution as a whole
t. demoralizing boomer
> had an effect of diminishing the view of "Gamers"
It was literally happening already, and is still happening, GG was an effort to put them to the task.
The ones that bought that cool aid were already bluepilled, but how many people got redpilled by GG that would still be bluepilled today ?
GG was more effective in redpilling people than real stuff like project veritas, Breitbart. And it's sad that it lost the fire.
At the end of the day it's true that what GG ultimately did was putting some disclaimer on articles that shilled something, but the cultural effect was deeper than that.
Fucking drunk ass QuarterPounder
Seeming that I was working in the industry at the time I saw gamer gators as the same kind of overly entitled man child I’d encounter a hundred times before, only given a voice. I personally knew Nathan Grayson and met The Whore of Babylon. Some artists even tried targeting me. The amount of noise being made at the time seemed no different than the autist who threatened to blow up our corporate headquarters because he was upset about something. The problem was the messaging.
But you weren’t off the mark. Video Games have gotten even more pozz’d if not perhaps as a reaction to the movement.
Nah, it' still in the game.
Post zooey nudes.
Lick the boot, Doomguy.
Was it? Sure, it turned lots of latent reactionaries into explicit reactionaries, but what exactly has it achieved otherwise?
>In the last years we found out with proof that Google is trying to social engineer everyone, mingling in USA elections to not elect Trump, that CNN, NY times, media matters, are just branches of the democratic establishment, that colleges are brainwashing and intimidating students, but there's not a single peep anywhere and they just brush it off.
Lol
>Like every empire, ideology or cancer you can only expand so far before you either fuck yourself or someone else comes along and fucks you.
>Gaming makes more money than Hollywood so they wanted it but they approached it with the same old tired tactics when the very definition of gaming is every different game you play is a different scenario and forces you to adapt and react.
They targeted gamers. Gamers.
I never followed along with gamer gate, is there a tldr frens?
>"the ethics department said no boobs"
Lmaaaaaao, what's up with ~~the ethics department~~ being the latest boogeyman for every design decision you dislike.
> Posting cringe pasta
It was effective because of the stupidity of our enemies. They thought that even dumb fuck normalfags and the politically disengaged wouldn't notice several dozen media pieces all publishing the same piece in the same two day period all with the same message that 'Gaming is Dead'. The entire point of the GG message had been that there was a cabal of journalists colluding with each other to destroy ethics in vidya journalism and they confirmed it. I was one of the silly sods that was forced to wake up during it. I'd been angry during the Kane and Lynch debacle a few years earlier but it took GG to make me realise that Yas Forums was right.
I don't know whether this is based or cringe..
>Why was GG effective ?
Simple hubris.
These people thought "Gaming" was still the small-but-growing niche entertainment it was 10 years prior, and tried to bully the community.
Problem was the gaming community had surpassed hollywood blockbusters as "normie culture" by then.
It was the SJW equivalent of Romney's "47%" moment or Hillary's "Deplorables" moment.
These people still haven't recovered: We're suffering massive internet censorship now because they still don't want to hear how much the public reject their fringe ideology.
It wasn't effective in the slightest. You're just nostalgic and remember having a good time, and so now you think it was effective. Just goes to show what utter delusion this imaginary "movement" of yours really is.
>But nothing gets a fucking reaction anymore, is like we have accepted they won, let's be good goys and keep consuming.
Nah, twitter chodes still get offended over female characters wearing skorts instead of skirts, TheQuivering had an entire meltdown over "SJWs" dunking on his friend freaking out over it, even though she's a women. A WOMEN!!
Lmao, you people are a living joke.
>ethics in vidya journalism
Literally a meme
>It wasn't effective in the slightest.
Oh?
The media tanking its own trust by attacking America's dominant pass-time and calling all gamers bigots didn't have any impact on, say, the 2016 elections?
That has nothing at all to do with GG and that doesn't mean anything itself either. What policy changes have come about from this? How has your nation or any other been materially improved by this?
You're a LARPer. You're all LARPers.
because drumph tweeted about it
GG burned out because they got complacent/co-opted halfway through, and tried to claim it was about journalism, Essentially defending the very type of people GG originally flared out against. Yeah sure, dev studios are just as guilty for cowtowing to it (or actively incouraging such behavior (EA/Ubi outright paying journalists for reviews/testing.)) but at the end of the day journalists were the last people GG should have supported.
That ended up paving the way for the very same games journalists and more mainstream media to douse the worst of the flames and push the rest of the movement into obscurity among the normies via reframing GG and using shame tactics to dismiss any legitimate criticisms or arguments because "lol what would a virgin neckbeard hermit like you know?" and making themselves out to be victims (I remember tons of articles from journalists whining about people insulting them and telling them to kill themselves and shit right around the time GG started cucking, and lost most of it's wind.
What the fuck am I looking at, and why is Notch on the "SJW" side
>tranny sells her body in exchange for good reviews for her shitty indie game
>trump is elected
the end
I’m in the industry (more on the executive side) and pretty much every single artist you meet will be a die hard lefty. Every writer, pretty much anyone with a drop of creativity in the industry tends to be on the far left.
Gamer Gate was genuinely justifiable and Zoe Quinn is a massive cunt that deserves prison time but if you say that publicly you may as well say goodbye to your career. It had the opposite effect I had hoped for.
>"lol what would a virgin neckbeard hermit like you know?"
This still applies fully. What would a bitter incel douchebag like you know?
The whole thing was always unsubstantiated nonsense but lol, it's still an excuse to hate on women so of course it stuck no matter what.
>The problem was the messaging
Fuck that optics bullshit, GG had the edge intellectually and culturally before they started to gatekeep everything and making "it's ethics in journalism".
We don't want people censoring boobs, we don't want to be moralized about racism, gays and globalist agenda, fuck you trying to sell propaganda.
That is the fucking message.
It worked because it was a bunch of anons just keeping at it, the moment they tried to sanitize the message it started losing steam.
At the time every second they went with all their SJW propaganda they'd have to censor everything or be BTFO, it was a win-win, now they just do it straight up without any opposition.
>eurogamer.net
It's literally their explanation, before they would try to at least put a lame excuse, but now it's not even needed.
You need to kill yourself.
Look at it the other way around.
How many were "redpilled", then realized they bought into a bunch of nonsense as they saw what this was all really about.
I was one of you, lmao. An "anti-SJW" chode just like you. I grew out of it. You guys never did.
What made GG such an incredible success was the mental illness of the left.
Gamers just learned from poltards to stop giving a fuck about what some fat feminist beast thinks. They learned not to back down or apologise when some professional victim is screaming at you.
Same mentality that Trump used to win the US election.
>GG was effective
That's news to me.
Because It was fun.
Because Notch was still trying to sell Minecraft to Microsoft when GG went off, he couldn't afford to be vocal like he has been until that 2 billion dollars hit his bank account.
The kids making GG memes were too young/naeve to understand that, and thought he was with the SJW's.
Huh, cool.
She's still athletic and attractive tho, so I don't see the issue.
Didn't they already shrink Tifa's tit in the Advent Children movie. Also made her look somewhat chinky, whereas now she just looks like John America's hapa daughter with some Roppongi whore.
Remember the lefties wanted the events that started gamergate buried and for everyone on the internet to never talk about it again.
Dont you remember the thousands of deleted posts on leddit?
And the mass banning on here? You could talk about CP and all sorts of fucked up shit but ohh no not about some slag who fucked 5 guys. Thats an instant ban,
So the fact that we are even discussing it proves it was very effective.
Its probably the only effective online movement there has been so far.
GG was the gayest shit ever
Because the group it spoke to should have always been associated with the group they were joining.
GG spoke to a bunch of young, white, nerdy, men. There was never any reason that these people should have been politically aligned with feminists and racial agitators from a self-interest perspective.
They had only previously identified as being on the left because of television.
When it comes to video games G&G lost the war by destroying itself, the moment it got some faggot self appointed leaders. Also going from "fuck off we don't like this shit" to "muh ethics" is something that turned the movement into a joke.
On another side though GG was many people's first redpill that took them down the rabit hole. It's not exageretated to say that Trump's online campain was so succesful because of GG. The same online personalities were even involved.