Whether the journalists and other apparent experts who enthusiastically spread this apparent lie about masks knew it was false is very much an open question. Some of us found it odd that the same people were also saying that masks should be reserved for use by medical professionals. If masks don't do anything, why do doctors and nurses need them? Are they an ornamental part of a dress uniform? The mind reels.
Media admitting that they lied about masks being effective
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>noble lie
How can a person think this way?
The 180-degree shift in acceptable public opinion about masks is in line with how the rest of this crisis has unfolded. Masks won't help. Everyone needs a mask.
The media establishment is engaged in an active and prolonged campaign of belligerence to American patriots who in the course of their duty of self governance, must be truthfully informed.
By being a jew
My normie friends are saying it’s good that they lied about it though. They say the goyim are too stupid to use them correctly. Normies worship the media, it’s pathetic.
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Trust Q team and Trump's plan. Just...trust.
Why do I give a fuck? Any dumbass knows that a mask is decent protection. Why are there like 10 threads about who is lying about masks? Any idiot that didn’t wear a mask because the news told them they shouldn’t should get it and be removed from the gene pool.
basically the reddit mindset
>everyone is a FUCKING IDIOT JUST LIKE MY PARENTS except for me of course because i trust women and SCIENCE!!
>patriots
Lol, you realize the founding fathers view of patriot is a lot different than yours correct? They were not egalitarians for anyone other than whites.
It’s good to trust real science, just not Reddit science like sociology or boasian anthropology.
There's a thing called sterile to sterile rule. If you need to Google that, it means you wearing a surgical mask is more harmful than wearing nothing at all.
>How can a person think this way?
By believing you're smarter and better equipped to deal with reality than the general public. If you believe most everyone will do self-destructive things if they're told the truth and will do helpful things if given the appropriate lie then you can also believe what you're doing is morally sound.
As a made up example, suppose you have perfect knowledge of how everyone and the physical world they're participating in will react given different messages. And suppose you know if you tell someone holding a doomsday weapon trigger that if they panic they'll accidentally activate it and kill everyone on the planet. But if you tell them they aren't holding a doomsday weapon trigger at all but rather a dummied out test prop them they'll stay calm, eventually put the trigger down, and will walk away with the crisis averted. And telling them nothing either way will result in them triggering the weapon accidentally by not paying attention to it because you never interrupted their train of thought with a message for them.
In that scenario you could argue it'd be morally better to lie than to tell the truth.
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Pack her up boys.
>one guy says it
>ITS THE ENTIRE GLOBAL MEDIA CONSPIRACY!!
This is why nobody takes you seriously.
All of faith-based religion is a "noble lie". Ends justifying means bullshit to enslave dumb goyim.
>real science
problem is that you are not at all in charge of what is and isnt "real science", and you might be shocked by how many "real scientists" would think of you as an ignoramus for not believing in what you just listed without question (because you are not a "real scientist", likely, and that means you dont have a say in what "real science" is.)
Suppose I read all that.
If the govt doesn't collapse by the end of this, I hope every single one of this fuckers is held accountable.
Masks help contain an infected person's expiration of infectious droplets.
They also keep him from touching his mouth or picking his nose, keeping his hands a little cleaner and the things he touches less infectious.
This is less effective for the uninfected.
If you needed an article to tell you this..
NGMI
I wish we could just bifurcate into 2 societies.
THERE IS NO VIRUS OTHER THAN FLU AND COLD!!!! It's all a lie, all of it!
Way ahead of their lies.
>Why are there like 10 threads about who is lying about masks?
Russian propaganda. There are a few dozen ForumArmy paid professional shills who flood Yas Forums with disinformation threads every day. You can always tell what is on their agenda board by the number of threads around a single topic.
Kek. They say this now when it is revealed that niggers are suffering the most from corona in the US. Almost makes one think.
Amen.
>and here's why that's a good thing
Aesthetic. Wish I had the hard covers for my p100s.
This but I was surprised how many subhuman people with iqs ~110 exist even smart people do what they are fucking told I blame estrogen in the water or something
Don’t trust the media, masks are still ineffective.
This made no fucking sense. You think you're making sense but this doesnt apply at all. The situation you described is nothing like the situation at hand
Authoritarianism is a mental illness.
Articles like this is what gets people killed. Journalist should be punished
Why do you assume he's referring to nonwhites when he says patriots?
It could just be elites want to buy and sell masks so they released these stories and now have them all for themselves.
Honeywell 5400 master race reporting in
They're mentally deranged and have no long term consideration.
Needs to Nuremberg trials or outright hangings of Journalists at this point
They got underground bunkers, Bill Gates was caught installing a new one last year
Its kind of like in 1984 where the public speaker is railing against whatever country they're fighting against, and mid speech he changes the country and the crowd just goes with it.
It's a huge problem that the media thinks it's noble to lie.
Because what we are left with is a media that takes pride in it's nobility daily.
This, I even had people shaking their head.
I get what you're saying, unlike the other retards here, but what you're describing isn't self assuredness - it's arrogance to an absurd degree.
Japanese use high speed camera and lasers to film micro droplets after someone sneezes with and without a mask.
The most fucked thing is those micro droplets stay in the air for hours and people walk into it and breathe in without knowing.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Some experts perpetuated the narrative with the goal of keeping more masks available for medical personnel, who need the masks far more. Others never fibbed at all about it but the media took one side and ran with it.
a noble lie is like an honest kike
an oxymoron
Oceana has always been at war with Eastasia.
Never forget. Never forgive.
this.
They've always told sick people to wear a mask if they absolutely have to be around others, i.e. if they dont live alone and cannot avoid others.
They just told the general public at large its unneeded, because, as user said, they only prevent others from getting sick, and provide little protection to no protection if not worn correctly (most people dont wear them correctly. I'm a nurse and its laughable seeing how some people wear their masks).
The change in heart is because of the massive amount of data showing anywhere from about a third to two thirds of people have no symptoms or such mild symptoms they dont think they have it. Also, we now know that there have been so many people that have passed it before they have symptoms. That being said, everyone wearing a mask now is so you, the wearer, doesn't get someone else sick, rather than preventing you from getting sick.
Yea so what, maybe we lied but it was for your own good.
>t.Shmoel Goldstein NY times.
Ding ding you will be spared on the day of the rake leaf
by being white
whites are mentally ill
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Based and 1984 pilled
See you at Shabbat, my (((fellow white))).
I'm a doctor, i knew it was a lie from minute one, but honestly at some point didn't even knew why they were lying anymore, mask are not a 100% lifesaver but they DO help to stop propagation, if the problem was lack of supplies then it should have been acknowledged from the beginning "we don't have enough supplies for everyone, we need to ramp up production ASAP" instead of a "DON'T USE MASK, THEY AREN'T USEFUL, UNLESS YOU ARE A HEALTHCARE WORKER, THEN IT MAGICALLY BECOMES USEFUL" we are in the information age, you can't straight up lie to the population with something so obviously without people realizing information does not match with reality
>The change in heart is because of the massive amount of data showing anywhere from about a third to two thirds of people have no symptoms or such mild symptoms they dont think they have it. Also, we now know that there have been so many people that have passed it before they have symptoms.
This is also a lie we KNEW since covid-19 was only present in China that asyntomatic carriers were the MAIN problem, and even Chinese studies told us this, WHO straight up lie to hell and back that we should asyntomatic carriers were not a problem at all, there wasn't a massive surge in date, there was a LIE from top hierarchy that fuck up the whole west in their time response and measures to be taken
Really though?
>>ignored the post. Stayed for the webm
same i work in healthcare. they also tried to tell us that it isnt airbrone because its spread by droplets (well duh), but they still linger in the air for some time. anyone with an iq above room temperature should have known the mask bs was a blatant lie.
Imagine being both black and retarded.
The state :
>do not own a gun to protect yourself, you don't know how to use it, leave it to trained professionals to protect you
>do not own a mask to protect yourself, it's useless for uninfected persons and you don't know how to put it on, only trained professionals do, and they need it more than you
Good thing I've never trusted the state about anything. I'm armed, stocked up on everything, including masks.
Fuck the state
I'm pretty sure everyone who could rub two brain cells together knew it was a fucking lie
Imagine believing anything that ANYBODY says. Doctors are morons. Has anyone ever met someone going to medical school? They are morons. Not nigger-tier retarded, but not smart. And the same with journalists and politicians. Why would you EVER listen to anything they ever say? Common fucking sense would tell you that a mask would AT LEAST help in stopping you from spreading it to others, even if it doesn’t really stop particles in the air from getting to you. Masks on everyone would probably be a better solution than muh mass quarantine.
I don't know, tell us nigger what that feels like
>Do not wear a face mask if you are well
2 weeks incubation period.
You don't know if you're well. That's the point
What's the lie? The masks do work, but people tend to have gaps while wearing them, or are constantly touching their face/nose/eyes which gets in the same way if you touch an infected surface.
To be fair I had to go out the other day and I saw multiple negros wearing masks in a way that covered their mouths but kept their nose exposed (seriously it was only black people doing this, I don't know how people are this fucking dumb), multiple people touching their face despite wearing a mask, and multiple people wearing masks, then pulling down the filter with their hand to puff on a cigarette and then returning it by grabbing the filter again. These people are literally wasting resources by misusing them as a security blanket rather than actually PPE
You can see Yas Forums archives. I talk openly about this since February in coronavirus threads
From what I gather, stupids butch of "scientists" take as a role model previous coronavirus, despite huge amounts of empirical evidence yelling as loud as they could than this coronavirus does NOT behave like previous ones, only in these last days some smart dude figure out that using previous coronavirus as model was not correlating with how this virus behave. People think scientists are top smart people but sometimes they are not, they are more used to follow protocols
>very much an open question
no it isn’t. everyone was knowingly lying, none of the officials or various media reporting on it were unaware that they were lying.
Any retard can just take a look at Japan and South Korea and see their numbers are much lower. And guess what, they all wear masks
They all talked about masks in a general sense. Surgical masks won't do much and that's where the idea came from but it was never stated as surgical masks, just masks. even N95 masks only filter down to 0.3 microns and COVID is 0.125 microns so the virus enveloped in the smallest aerosols from a cough will pass through.
In short: They failed as journalists, as they did not convey the basic information every pol-tard had since mid-january about masks.