When you start a Zoom meeting...

>What does the US government care about stealing American businesses' intellectual property and trade secrets?
>us goverment

A certain tribe that makes a certain cpu with certain backdoors would be very interested however

I thought it was strange how Zoom was suddenly being coronavirally marketed so hard when there are other options.

Now I can't uninstall this shit man!!!!!!!p

As a chink, I used this on a University interview.

It went horribly.

Oh noes the chinks are going to eavesdrop on my boss talking about spreadsheets.

I'm a teacher forced to teach online, and all I can say is
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>surprising links to china
wow who could have guessed

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>Now think about that for a second. Why would a communist country have billionaires?
you are a moron. they have private companies and a stock market. whatever you think communism is, china is not that.

Tell your admins that synchronous online learning isn't supported by research and you need to move to an asynchronous model.

"Free"

Skype isn't possible for you?

Also interesting note:
China has a terms of service thing where a lot of data from companies must be given to the government.

>with the rest in the United States.
Great, your data's gangbanged by China and the NSA.

Signal allow conferencing up to 12 people.
if your teacher continues to force you to use it, call him a chink spy and call cops on him.
>skype
fucking retard

There is also Wire. Wire is better than Signal. No phone number required.

Just use discord. Isn't it obvious everyone is being corralled into using shitty insecure Zoom?

China does not exist. CCP does. CCP is a crime syndicate operating under the auspices of communism.
Maybe your work is meaningless. Some companys make quite a fortune on non-essential stuff. Smart companies want to keep subversive nation states the fuck out of their communications. Try owning a company and you might care.
You can't appeal to ignorance here Ghidra is a wonderful decompiler and works directly on the Zoom executables. Try it out!

Discord is just as bad. Every packet you send goes through their (((centralised servers))) and it's not end to end encrypted.

Zoom has trojan-like functionality. Discord does not. I would argue Discord is not AS bad as Zoom.

this is also same for Telegram. Too many T_Dfags here use that shit. We have lots of tech illiterate niggers here

Discord reports lots of device data and your actual discord data, your dossier is assembled on their servers, but mostly powered by data you've sent. Zoom is chink shit, so they think in chink terms, it's much more aggressive surveillance.

>with the rest in the United States.

In Langley to be precise.

zoom is chinese spyware
reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/fujwht/zooms_encryption_is_not_suited_for_secrets_and/
protonmail.com/blog/zoom-privacy-issues/

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Discord is just complete shit, I use it for games just because my retarded friends use it too.
The thing is students (look at my country flag) are even MORE retarded and can barely make a double click, let alone download and install a program that also requires them to jump through some hoops

>protonmail
I hope you don't use it user

What are you recommending then? Zoom makes you install shit too. What is better than discord?

They don't let us use skype under the "you cant share personal information with students" bullshit (eg email), even though I created a completely new email that has literally ZERO personal use for me, they already gave me a memo for using skype and I don't want to lose my only job in this fucking dire scenario

I'll give it a try to those 2 but if it isnt just click on this link and there, you are done, then I think student's wont use them

wire.com/en/
Enjoy! It is very normie friendly and hassle free. Hope you will like it.

>mutt spyware good
>chinese spyware bad
kek fuck off CIA

what the hell is surprising about that? EFF publishes a privacy scorecard that summarizes how well most popular VoIP and chat programs handle privacy, and commercial products like skype and wechat are almost always the worst.

I know zoom asks me to install shit but I can also make a room from the browser using a link without having to install shit. the only bad thing is that it closes on its own after 45 mins.
I also use Miro as a whiteboard, but for some god damn reason, I can't start voice chat on Miro even though their website says I should be able to, there's simply no button for it.

if you can't see why letting adversarial governments surveil your habits and behavioral trends might be a bad thing, i can't help you

>5 out of 73, in a Citizen Lab scan — seem to be located in China, with the rest in the United States
>with the rest in the United States
In other words, it comes down to getting spied on by mutts or chinks. I'd take the chinks since at least they won't try to bully my government into extraditing me to China because I broke some Chinese laws while I never stepped in their goddamn country. Fucking morons don't realize that when it comes to spying, the americans are even worse than the chinks and russians, because they have no power to opress me while I live abroad, while the US does.Watch the mutts seethe and call be chang.

i dont but it's one of the recommended email services on privacytools.io
whats wrong with it?
widespread easy access to technology is going to be our downfall
tech illiterate normies shouldnt be able to access this stuff

So much this. Also anybody who is bitching about this yet is running Windows on new hardware needs to fucking off himself.

You realize that there are companies that are PISSED about Zoom's China bullshit, right? Specifically companies directly involved in encryption?

>In Langley to be precise.
you spelled fort meade wrong.

Eat shit chang

protonmail has a history of censorship and email services are not encrypted like web browsers or messaging services. no matter what they claim. You may google about proton mail and censorship if you want to learn more. They are also entirely pozzed.
Just use gmail for "official" stuff and cock.li for shitposting and (entertainment) related things.

There are free and open source alternatives you can compile and host yourself. I suggest using them.

Anything that appears to be free isn't, and companies should be paying you for data they harvest from software.

5 out of 73 in china

But its china spying on you. Not us with 68

When a product is free, YOU are the product

how are people not privy to chinese stealing and cheating? it's literally their culture

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Also when information goes through other countries that's how it's legal for the US to spy on communications. They buy the data from other intelligence agencies over seas.

>Chinks up to their bullshit again

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Take the uranium pellets out of your ass nigger, you glow brighter than a quasar

wouldn't surprise me if they propped up zoom to settle some debt to china anyway.

kek

look at the responses ITT, especially from American flags. Yas Forums is literally facebook tier now

>Laughs in NSA

Fuck man, that's rough. I'm sorry to say that it sounds like you guys are cucked enough to have earned this for your flag.

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I’ve never heard of this program until The Corona Virus. Who is pushing everyone to start using it????

Chang detected

it's part of a bigger problem. it seems like many organizations, even large-scale organizations, do not want to host their own communications.

setting up an email server is not hard or complicated in any way. any halfway competent IT staff can do this, no problem. even one person can do this. the software is already there, and it's very good after decades of maintenance and polish.

likewise, any organization could set up in-house VoIP if necessary. the software exists, the people who know how to use it properly exist. but for some reason, basic IT services are often outsourced.

i'd rather get spied on by NSA than the CCP
do you really not understand why being spied on by China is worse?

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>they won't try to bully my government into extraditing me to China because I broke some Chinese laws
That wouldn't be an issue if your country wasn't Chinese, Chang

do you really not understand that the NSA and the CCP have exactly the same regard for you? aka none?

Same, but I've been asked to use it 3 times since coronachan.

please do tell how china, which is a country with no authority in the US, and most likely won't share anything with the US, is worse than being spied on by the US, which can definitely take actions against you. Assuming there is some important information that they got access to, in the case of chinese spies, worst case you get blackmailed by china. In the case of US spies, best case you get blacked mailed by the US.

Explain it then, I'll wait. If the keys are centrally distributed they can be seen by the original encrypter you lightweight. Only if you use proper 1-1 or 1-many key exchange mechanisms they would not be.

It is not an issue right now either. The only country that goes around asking other countries to extradite people who broke their local laws even though they never stepped in the country nor are bound by their laws is the US. When the fuck was the last time China asked another country to extradite someone who broke chinese laws outside of china? The US begs other countries to extradite people to the US for acts that were only illegal in the US, but weren't done in the US.

Dismissive. I'm not gonna go into great detail, but I do trust the NSA slightly more than the Chinese government. As a Canadian, you're right to not trust either one.... but still China is obviously the worse of the two.

You're the only tard that doesn't understand encryption. Encrytions should always be generated between the two parties that are communicating with each others and never by a third party. It's like if you were to build a lock that only 2 people can access, and ask a third guy, a locksmith, to build the lock and key, and the locksmith gets to keep a copy of that key if they want. They can at any time open the lock that only you and one more person is supposed to be able to open, which is a huge security issue since you don't know what they will do with the key. They could sell it to a burglar or abuse it themselves. The same goes for zoom's method of encryption. There is absolutely no fucking reason why the key shouldn't be generated by the parties involved in the conversation themselves. it's just as easy to set it up that way than using a centralized server, actually, its even easier since it cuts the middle man.