Religion saves us

The biggest reason behind the decay of the west and degeneracy is the lack of religion and everyone going atheist.

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Not really. Correlation doesn't equal causation. The whole ship is sinking, no matter what belief you adhere or don't adhere to. Mouse utopia.

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Somebody pulled the plug from the inside. :^)

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Ok. I fix my wording.
Lack of judeo-christian values is the biggest problem.

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There's no such thing as judeo-christian.

Good goy

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Gluttony and sloth correlation to obesity rates. Abortions linked to lust. Wrath leading to war and famine. The list is long. Seven deadly sins are manifested. Greed and Bernie. Envy and Bernie. Negligence ( a breach or failure of duty of care resulting in damage to property or life) duty of care (a moral or legal obligation to ensue the safety and wellbeing of humans or life) in law. Are we not sticklers for law and authority or not? Why the lack of consistency? Come on goy. What are you made of?

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This is true. Humans NEED religion, we are tribal. Doesn't matter which one. I am not going to try to convert you to my religion, even though I would like more members. The fact is that we need it. If we don't have it, something else will act in its place, which is much more likely to be abused. This is why we have progressivism, communism, and so on.
There's literally no reason not to follow a religion.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, no, but it's pretty evident that lack of religion bears a strong likelihood of being the case.

Are you fucking kidding me?
the biggest reason for the decay of the west is christcucks inability to kick out "gods chosen people" because "they have god on their side" and cut all aid to israel.
Fuck you are retarded. The level of mental gymnastics you must go through to even arrive at that conclusion is insane.

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Religion = /= Christianity
Loving the Jews =/= Christianity =/= Religion

Jews hate Christianity. They will openly say the Bible is anti-Semitic. I'm not even Christian, m8, but you have to be aware of this.

In a sense decay of the West is not really
because Religion is abandonned ans the churches are empty. This is sad yes. But it is primary because they aren’t ready to receive the Holy Spirit. They became all idiots since they prefer living this material life / lie. They all prefer bowing down to mental and life tricks to gain the ease of the mind. Everyone is lazy. Spirituality requires faith and commitment. It’s not for everyone. And I think the Holy Spirit works wonders so it will touch people that CAN BEAR this wonderful thing. Atheist are plain ignorant of God’s wonder. They are the one thinking God is a man living on a sky.

Religion can't save you, only a personal relationship with Jesus can save you.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

oh yea sure like last time.
>saves us

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Have some spice in all fields

Riiiight, and christians LOVE jews
seeing the problem?

Society has always been degenerate. Christianity leads to and excuses degeneracy. The ‘holy spirit ‘ is nothing but you worshipping your own desires and emotions.

In order of most based to least based.

1. Orthodox
2. Protestant
3. Cathocucks

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yup.. those churches will save the west.

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>Religion
fake and gay

>t. I never received the Holy Spirit

There is no god, no Allah. I used to be blinded by religion until I woke up and saw the light and realized how much of a dumb savage monkey I was following some fairy tails.

Religion was man made to control people if there was no religion the world wouldve lived in more harmony. Fuck Allah, Fuck jesus, fuck Mohamed, fuck every religion.

Reminder that we can trace the rise of the western world directly to the obediance of The Law of God and see it crumbling not even a decade after we started completly ignoring it.

>13If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
anti faggotry

>3Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4because they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and He will swiftly destroy you.
against racemixing. Now often its claimed this merely means to not marry someone of another believe regardless of race however
>12 "Beware, my son, of every kind of fornication. First of all, marry a woman from among the descendants of your ancestors; do not marry a foreign woman, who is not of your father's tribe; for we are the descendants of the prophets. Remember, my son, that Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, our ancestors of old, all took wives from among their kindred. They were blessed in their children, and their posterity will inherit the land.

>8When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
speaks against mass immigration

>1“Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever does not enter the sheepfold by the gate, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber.
against illegal immigration

>1No man with crushed or severed genitals may enter the assembly of the LORD.
against trannies

>19If you are harvesting in your field and forget a sheaf there, do not go back to get it. It is to be left for the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
basically natsoc

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Don't hand of all responsibility to religion and just lay back, your own changed actions will be what saves

No, it's the Reverse Zombie Masonfrees behind everything!

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kikes are not israelites nor semites but the Edomites that lived in judeah
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom
>The Edomites first established a kingdom ("Edom") in the southern area
of modern Jordan and later migrated into southern parts of the Kingdom of Judah ("Idumea", or modern southern Israel/Negev)
Eventually they were forced to convert
>They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BC), who forcibly converted them, among others, to Judaism

And around that same time the Pharisee that follow the oral law come around
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees
>The Pharisees preserved the Pharisaical oral law in the form of the Talmud
like we have today the kikes follow the Tal Mud and which was repeatedly rebuked by Jesus, telling them they are children of Satan.

Now Edomites are the descendents of Essau, the brother of Jacob/Israel who decided to wage war his brother and his people.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom
>The Hebrew word Edom means "red", and is derived from the name of its founder Esau

Now to do this Essau joined Amalek
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek
>According to the Bible, Amalek was the son of Eliphaz (himself the son of Esau, ancestor of the Edomites)

Which thus, together with Essau became the Edomites (plus a couple other things mixed in likely).
The Amalek are known as Israels nemesis and who fits the whites nemesis better than the kikes? The Amalek are a canaanite tribe. Canaan is the son of Ham who was one of the three sons of Noah (Abraham coming from Shem, S(h)emites). Now the Hamites are traditionally black and indeed canaans curse hints to him becoming a slave like the blacks did. Furthermore i believe the biblical first black (can go into this) was Cain, who himself was the son of Eve and the serpent. This is the line of kikes, those that say they are jews, but are liars instead. The Synagogue of Satan and they came through the Hamitic line, thus are basically white skinned niggers

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Did you come up with that all by yourself, user?

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from Flavius Josephus
documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/0037-0103,_Flavius_Josephus,_De_Bello_Judaico,_EN.pdf
>2. For there are three philosophical sects among the Jews. The followers of the first of which are the Pharisees; of the second, the Sadducees; and the third sect, which pretends to a severer discipline, are called Essens. These last are Jews by birth, and seem to have a greater affection for one another than the other sects have.

so the closest relation the kikes have to the israelites is through Esau who mixed himself into the canaanites

Esau originally had the birthright to take over the tribe as a first born. However after a day of work on the field he went inside and asked his brother for something to drink or eat, for which Jacob demanded Esaus birthright. Esau agreed, and thus got what he wanted and Jacob got the birthright from Esau. However after this Esau wanted it back, Jacob didnt want to return it, and thus Esau parted from his family, joined a canaanite tribe that became known as Amalek (the Israelites nemesis) to wage war on Jacob/Israel. These eventually (likely with a couple others mixed into) became the Edomites which are todays Kikes. And to this day they still demand the birthright back from Israel (The white man). Their hate of whites is actually envy, they want what we have. Thats why they undergo plastic surgery to appear more european, take on germanic last names and yiddish is even just some fake german. They try to genocide whites so that they can take their position of chosen people they believe they inherited from Esau, without anyone else being left to rightfully claim that position.

Other than the kikes however Esau made up with Jacob/Israel again eventually, but (((they))) refuse to follow the lead to this day.

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This is a modern thing, though. Christians are Israel, the real Jews.

yea, atheists.....

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The concept of Chosen people:
So what are the Chosen people? Originally it were the descendent of Abraham>Isaac>Jacob by blood. With Christ however everyone who believes in and follows him is heir to the promise of given to Abraham.
However the meaning of "chosen" I believe is widely misrepresented. For example the "Chosen people cant do wrong, everything they do is the will of God and totally ok and anyone opposing them will be cursed" is just some pilpul probably coming from the Talmud. Chosen means chosen to spread the word of God across the world. Chosen to display the glory of God through your own deeds and letting them know your father through you. Chosen to lead as a good example.
>9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Greek; 10but glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Greek. 11For God does not show favoritism.
Meant to be that good example we are the first to be rewarded, so that other people see the mercy and generousity of God, but we are also the first to be punished when doing wrong, so the others see what misbehavior leads to and because it would be Hypocritical to tolerate with your own people what they do while punishing other

Also you need to consider that modern Kikes are not the Israelites/Judeans of the bible which were whites

yes. for 2000 years almost christian uniformly agreed that kikes murdered our messiahs because they hate the truth and subsequently God, and thus were seen as enemies by them. Only recently, after 2000 years of subversion, taking longer than anything else they subvert, we have started ignoring the most basic teachings, and as a result see our civilization crumble and our people embrace the jewish mindset. And yes, before it were the Europeans that are Israel, nowadays its the believers which still are mostly whites

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someone stop those dirty atheists, raping kids in the house of god, and stealing European wealth and hording it in a centralized location using ghosts as a excuse.

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>Telescope
>Saviour of the West

we wuz based n shit

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>GUYS!! THE CHURCH CANNOT POSSIBLY BE THE SAME AS ANY OTHER INSTITUTION AND CAN UNDER NO MEANS BE INFILTRATED BY THE JEWS!! IT'S THE RELIGION ITSELF!!

Extra Canonical Evidence for Jesus:

Mark 15
>And the sixth hour having come, darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour
Matthew 27:51:
>"And the earth shook and the rocks were split"
The secular Roman historian Phlegon documented an eclipse and earthquake around the exact same time, matching the Gospel account:
>in the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad, an eclipse of the sun happened, greater and more excellent than any that had happened before it; at the sixth hour, day turned into dark night, so that the stars were seen in the sky, and an earthquake in Bithynia toppled many buildings of the city of Nicaea
tertullian.org/fathers/jerome_chronicle_03_part2.htm

Africanus in 221 AD
>On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun. For the Hebrews celebrate the passover on the 14th day according to the moon, and the passion of our Savior falls on the day before the passover; but an eclipse of the sun takes place only when the moon comes under the sun. And it cannot happen at any other time but in the interval between the first day of the new moon and the last of the old, that is, at their junction: how then should an eclipse be supposed to happen when the moon is almost diametrically opposite the sun
He references here Thallus who wrote his work "around 52 AD" which has been lost in time though, but is referenced by Africanus.

Also geological evidence of a heavy earthquake in/around 33 AD
icr.org/article/greatest-earthquakes-bible/

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People still say this isn't true.
Western world after 1950:
>1.3 kids per woman
>historically low testosterone levels, highest suicide rates
>kikes ruling in every place
>wages decoupled from economic growth, three quarters living from paycheck to paycheck, drowned in debt
>continuous leaks about government psyops
>literal tranny demon lecturing kids about sexual freedom
Historical truths, confirmed apparitions and miracles where the sun is moving, countless prophecies. All of this and skeptics still try to push their bullshit. Burn the soil.

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King Abgar V had an exchange of words with Jesus
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abgar_V
Historian Eusebius quotes the Edessan archives:
>Abgar, ruler of Edessa, to Jesus the good physician who has appeared in the country of Jerusalem, greeting. I have heard the reports of you and of your cures as performed by you without medicines or herbs. For it is said that you make the blind to see and the lame to walk, that you cleanse lepers and cast out impure spirits and demons, and that you heal those afflicted with lingering disease, and raise the dead. And having heard all these things concerning you, I have concluded that one of two things must be true: either you are God, and having come down from heaven you do these things, or else you, who does these things, are the son of God. I have therefore written to you to ask you if you would take the trouble to come to me and heal all the ill which I suffer. For I have heard that the Jews are murmuring against you and are plotting to injure you. But I have a very small yet noble city which is great enough for us both

Jesus:
>Blessed are you who hast believed in me without having seen me. For it is written concerning me, that they who have seen me will not believe in me, and that they who have not seen me will believe and be saved. But in regard to what you have written me, that I should come to you, it is necessary for me to fulfill all things here for which I have been sent, and after I have fulfilled them thus to be taken up again to him that sent me. But after I have been taken up I will send to you one of my disciples, that he may heal your disease and give life to you and yours.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
>Christus, from whom the name [Note by OP: Christians] had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa

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The value is always greater than that which is manifested. Be that in form or intelligence as by human evolution and trajectory. This basic formula is all that is needed to understand the overall purpose. Evolutionary advancement is an example of survival. Survival is paramount in law. It’s paramount in existence. We strive to survive. For what reason? To reach a higher level of value intelligence maturity evolution maturity and to become self sufficient in all aspects of survival. As by trajectory of impossible possible reality manifest.
Pleasure doing business.

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From the Ante-Nicene Fathers, a letter from King Abgar to Tiberius Caesar
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ante-Nicene_Fathers/Volume_VIII/Memoirs_of_Edessa_And_Other_Ancient_Syriac_Documents/Moses_of_Chorene/Chapter_8
>Abgar, king of Armenia, to my Lord Tiberius, emperor of the Romans, greeting:—
>I know that nothing is unknown to your Majesty, but, as your friend, I would make you better acquainted with the facts by writing. The Jews who dwell in the cantons of Palestine have crucified Jesus: Jesus without sin, Jesus after so many acts of kindness, so many wonders and miracles wrought for their good, even to the raising of the dead. Be assured that these are not the effects of the power of a simple mortal, but of God. During the time that they were crucifying Him, the sun was darkened, the earth was moved, shaken; Jesus Himself, three days afterwards, rose from the dead and appeared to many. Now, everywhere, His name alone, invoked by His disciples, produces the greatest miracles: what has happened to myself is the most evident proof of it. Your august Majesty knows henceforth what ought to be done in future with respect to the Jewish nation, which has committed this crime; your Majesty knows whether a command should not be published through the whole universe to worship Christ as the true God.

The answer from Tiberius
>Tiberius, emperor of the Romans, to Abgar, king of the Armenians, greeting:
>Your kind letter has been read to me, and I wish that thanks should be given to you from me. Though we had already heard several persons relate these facts, Pilate has officially informed us of the miracles of Jesus. He has certified to us that after His resurrection from the dead He was acknowledged by many to be God. Therefore I myself also wished to do what you propose; but, as it is the custom of the Romans not to admit a god merely by the command of the sovereign, but only when the admission has been discussed and examined in full senate, I proposed the affair to the senate, and they rejected it with contempt, doubtless because it had not been considered by them first. But we have commanded all those whom Jesus suits, to receive him amongst the gods. We have threatened with death any one who shall speak evil of the Christians. As to the Jewish nation which has dared to crucify Jesus, who, as I hear, far from deserving the cross and death, was worthy of honour, worthy of the adoration of men—when I am free from the war with rebellious Spain, I will examine into the matter, and will treat the Jews as they deserve

From Flavius Josephus
documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/0037-0103,_Flavius_Josephus,_The_Antiquities_Of_The_Jews,_EN.pdf
>3. Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians,

Correct. Because it is just an emotional reward for worshipping your own desires that you project onto your idol.

The Holy Spirit is your golden calf.

Science is god and god is science. They stand side by side. They are the same. You must use science for good will and not as a recipe to kill life. That is unacceptable. And it’s noted.

The birth Control pill was released in June 1960.

May Justice be righteous and TRUE.

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We should be doing all of that, for that is acceptable and pleasing to the Lord. To love one another and not be angry with our brother. To do good to them, even if they hate us. To believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and confess Him everywhere we go. Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father and He is the forgiver of mankind's sins.
I hope you understand this and repent, user!

There are some religions which aren't Christianity, you know

Religion doesn't save. Christ saves.

Should we go pagan?

Christ doesn’t save if you’re a Christian. Christianity is the opposite of what Jesus taught and believed. Literally the jewing of his teaching.

>op is a christcuck

>later says this:
>Lack of judeo-christian values is the biggest problem.

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>thomas paine
the generation of 18th century anti christian revolutionaries was the greatest generation of heroes to ever grace europe, glory to their names

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Honestly? Probably not. Paganism is a meme now. Do not bother going with a religion because "muh ancestors :DDDD" (our ancestors converted, usually willingly).
Find what you believe is true.

Personally, I'm one of the few Zoroastrians here, and a convert (yes, you can convert; you just can't convert to being a Parsi, because that's an ethnic group. Iranians are open to converts, and even many Parsis are). If people are interested, I encourage them to read The Inner Fire by Rohinton F. Nariman.

>our ancestors converted, usually willingly
whatever you say kike

give me ONE example of europeans converting without being threatened with death

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Armenians? The Roman Empire? Georgia? San Marino? Celts and Picts?

>but muh wars
Everyone fought. People tended to follow the religion of the ruler. Cuius regio, eius religio.

Your bitching, and calling me a Kike, doesn't change that Paganism is a meme now. It doesn't have any intellectual foothold. It just cries "muh ancestors!" and whines ineffectively. It harasses the Christian and calls him the Jew. Ignoring every potential enemy, it focuses on its allies. I'd like to be friends with Pagans, but you're so intellectually dishonest, so unbearable and unlikable that I don't care about you guys now.

>those letters!

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Religion all seems like a larp to me desu

It can seem like that to someone who isn't used to it. If you were brought up in a secular household, as even I was, it can be something you struggle with. When I came to the conclusion that there was a supernatural, it wasn't an easy feat for me to get used to. It took me years.

It meant I've had to do a lot of reading. Hundreds of books, tens of scriptures, in dozens of religions, on different religions.

But overall, I genuinely believe it was worth it.

I hope that one day you can get rid of this larp, but I will be honest - some religions seem more prone to this. There are some religions which I feel are larpy and weird even now. Paganism is one, but then again, you don't really encounter a sincere pagan very often. Most of them are just Christians dressing up in "Aryan" clothing, with Thor as Jesus and Odin as the Father, or atheists who like drinking mead and saying skål.

you save yourself. take responsibility.

I went to church as a child but no one took it seriously. All the children just went to the church for money including me.

Children are children, though. I would have laughed at the idea of myself becoming religious, much less joining a tiny religion like Zoroastrianism. I never set foot in a church until I was an adult.

May I ask what kind of church it was, and what kind of religions you have looked at in your life? I mean reading books about, not just reading bits of the religious texts or looking at, say, Wikipedia.

I went to a Catholic church. I have never read a book about religion and I do not plan to.

Novus Ordo, or Tridentine?

>I have never read a book about religion and I do not plan to.
Then it's not a surprise that you find it strange, to be honest. Many people feel like that about things they are not used to.

I don't know what kind of Catholic church. Okay still is a larp to me.

That's fine, but be aware that it appears similar to someone saying "algebra is useless" who hasn't even done the basics, or "evolution is nonsense because monkeys still exist" because they don't actually know what evolution is. (I accept evolution, by the way.)
I hope one day you'll pick up one of them. Some of them are interesting, not even just the religious texts, but texts about the religion, culture, history, and so on.

I would read Greek mythology then.