Jordan Peterson Thread

Yep. He's being attacked from all angles. They can't outright deplatform him so they're going about it in different ways. The sheer viciousness directed at him since his wife's illness has been unreal.

It’s always a leaf

>world renowned in the field of psychology

>errr only says clean your room

Uh no retard

bad bait. He's not profound, but he's sure as shit better than a lot of the media personalities today.

I disagree. Peterson talks about "finding the thing that glimmers" to you, something that speaks to your soul. I think what he's basically referring to is find what you're passionate about.

He talks about seeing life like an adventure and finding the adventure of your life. How are you going to find it if you never step foot out of your bubble?

Cleaning up your room and then fixing up other things in order of proximity is to get people more confident with getting out of their comfort zone, such that you are more and more exposed to things that would give the world a chance to show you something that glimmers.

I doubt you can defend your argument that taking more responsibility for the things you're unhappy about is "still you running away (from your unhappiness) ."

This has to be bait.
You're taking life advice of a pharma shill drug addict, who recently overdosed on sanity pills.

> Juden Peterstein
> please buy my snakeoil and psychological manipulation
> yes, i know it doesn't work but give me shekels!
nech yeself, yankee trash.

Did you wash your penis?

I feel for you, user and I share your pain in a way. I grew up in a home without a father and that has had a huge negative effect on me. Peterson's teachings have showed me just how much damage has been done but also how I can learn to overcome it without blaming anyone else.

Yeah, and that is extremely low. Some platforms have even mentioned how stupid it must be for a self-help master to be seeking help for an addiction to an anxiety-relieving drug. First off, he realized that the love of his life may die, second of all, even in his lectures he said that relapse is not a failure, but just a relapse.

He Is excellent but was under a growing shit-ton of stress
Got addicted to drugs that helped him function
Many such cases

Based&redpilled

Clean your penis user. If that's not enough just fucking pop benzos till you end up in a coma. Some shit like that user.

Keep masturbating in your rooms, coomers.

Hugely positive. I get some of the hate for him from this place. There's the organized hate that's coming from white nationalist groups, who desperately need new members and prey on people who don't have their shit together. But outside of that there's people who are skeptical of him, and that's fine. Some of his stuff especially his 12 rules for life book are kinda normie tier stuff, like dad pill advice.

But one thing to keep in mind is that he's a teacher, he's lectured psychology at prestigious universities for decades, he's published a lot of original work and is well peer reviewed and well cited and so he's actually an expert in those fields. And if you want to learn some modern psychology then his recorded lectures out of the UofT from back in 2014-2017 that you can get for free on youtube, they are a massive source of value. Specifically the psychometrics because it's very practical knowledge, it helps you understand people better, their motivations, especially in a personal relationship context but also business context.

For me that's important as a business owner, and if we want to unfuck the world a large part of that is going to be changes like the whole James D'Amore case at google where diversity of ideas got him fired, simply because his feedback was thought to be too right wing and offensive. So creating a work place where ideas are judged based on evidence and credit, where discussions of things like real differences in humans (race, IQ, sex etc) aren't crushed by retarded extreme left viewpoints.

The rest about Peterson is all fluff, who cares about the fame and drama. He's a fucking good teacher, sharp as a knife and you can learn a lot from his lectures. It's all mainstream science too, people often call him a pseudo intellectual but that's all total bullshit.

15 minutes of fame ended 6 months ago.

he's a fuckin drug addict and wants to kill himself. all while preaching that his lifestyle is the best.

Stop relying on other people to tell you how to manage your life.
Nigger.

user, I think that you hit the spot. As a professor of psychology, Peterson is brilliant because he is basically a culmination of Freud's, Nietzsche's, and Jung's ideals, along with the lessons learned from the 20th century and his own intellectual prowess.
His interest in psychometrics is exactly what often got him into the crossfire between the left and the right, but overall, if you don't take sides, but only listen to his ideas impartially, you will learn a lot.

Well try to stop for a second and imagine that the love of your life is inevitably dying. See how far you would go. I know that for me, I could most likely end up being an addict to whatever would take the pain away.

so hes been where these other guys are struggling and doesnt want them to make the mistakes he did, find truth truth and help sooner than him

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Clean your room, user!!!

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I do see your point and I have shared it for a longest time, probably 25+ years, but in reality I've come to realize that there are some things that I alone can't see that are wrong with me, only others can. If one person after another tells you about a flaw in your personality, then it's at least worth looking into.

He's no longer important because he has no mission. He stated his mission was to prevent a certain group from forming a racial consciousness and becoming political. An event in 2016 halted that political momentum so strongly that he banned a journalist from speaking at a free speech conference - showing he has no classical lib principles.. He then went on leafvision sobbing and crying about being bullied online.
Now he is adrift, frail and addicted to drugs. He knows the con is up.

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*2017

Except that wasn't in the least what his message is. Racial/political/gender inequality was only a tiny fraction of his ideals, and even then they were mostly irrelevant if you understood that his main idea was about personal responsibility and that you should start by looking after yourself.

Pretty based response. Perspective is good. Taking ideas and examining them is good. Practicing them is good but at the end of the day you have to ask yourself if it is useful for what you are doing. We do that be being more engageful in your reality. More perspectives are good. Thinking one perspective is better than others is the fallacy of duality. Learn shades of grey instead of black and white.

He is a moron. I perform him.

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*out perform

I see the kike shills have started posting anti Peterson threads again.

Ask yourself why they are scared of him so much?

>start by looking after yourself.
He became visibly angry at the idea of group identity for whites and instead demanded radical individualism. It is the core of his message. A message he could not defend in open debate.

he's a junkie con artist

This is spot on.

Peterson is or was not a saint. He gave some good pointers to unfucking your life and finally left the word stage without being broken by the great media onslaught. Even if you disagree with everything he ever said, you should agree that's a good thing.

user, I made this thread as pro-Peterson.

you only think that, because it's the first guy who offers you advice in the area. there are way better, and efficient methods to tread victims of child abuse. look up therapists in your area who specialize in treating cptsd. emdr therapy helped me more than anything that this guy has ever said.

You're right, the world has never been black and white, despite what some tried to make it into. Anyway the way I question the meaning of my life in terms of what I'm doing is this: "has my work brought be the kind of happiness and satisfaction that I wanted in my life?"
Personally, the answer has been "no," and after listening to Peterson it makes a lot of sense as to why that is.

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I'm not saying you shouldn't do anything like that, I'm saying what Peterson talks about is an aspect of life but not the complete picture. You shouldn't not just think about what you want but why, and who. You'll never gain satisfaction if you just keep running in the hamster wheel and Peterson is the proof of this. Eventually you'll just crash like a house of cards while the underlying issue never went away.

Exactly right, the power and the real value is in the science and the understanding of the science, which is best done through having a good teacher who understands these things and convey them well. If you see his work and much of the rest of the world through a strong political lens then it's to your own detriment, it's like the right wing people tend to not accept climate change science, and the left wing people don't accept race and IQ science. The best thing you can possibly do is subordinate the political and ideological to that of the science and facts. That's also partially what he does in his maps of meaning lecture series, it's about breaking away from ideology and to do that first you need to understand why people are drawn to it.

People don't need to be saints for what they say to have value to you. Most of the science he teaches is mainstream science, much of it is controversial, coming from a field that has been rife with scandal for some time now. And he's adding some rigor back into that which is a good thing.

This isn't an anti-Peterson thread though. And I've researched where they come from and it's from various white nationalist groups who have been creating a lot of misinformation about Peterson and spreading it through their recruiting grounds, one of which is Yas Forums. Just like Muslims in the UK who radicalize kids into their faith, they go after the kind of useless loners who feel disenfranchised and are looking for someone to blame it on. In the case of white nationalist blame it on jews. And they recognize that Peterson who helps these kind of people get back on their feet, that he's devastating for their recruitment.

Says the man who tried to change the world by shitting in a bucket in the woods. Ted changed absolutely nothing, just got a few edgybois to think they had a leader. Pathetic. And what, he makes all these brilliant statements from prison you say? Why, he must be worth listening to.

Yoy unironically sound like you are an intellectual yourself, user.

Too close to the bone....?

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listen to his maps of meaning lectures from the beginning they are amazing

Does anyone have that video completely destroying Peterson? It was about how he promotes hyper individualism to whites. I think it was on bitchute.

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nevermind found it

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Yes, I really like his deconstructions of mythology, especially his biblical lectures on genesis.

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>I've researched where they come from and it's from various white nationalist groups
could you explain how did you do that?

same very based

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This. His biblical lectures are great. Even if you're not a christian its an interesting perspective on the texts.

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>So fairly recently I've started watching his lectures and debates and the more I listen the more his words resonate with me.

Petersons a kike that pushes for individuality instead of group tribal preference, don't fall for his theatrics.

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Him being pro-religion is great. A decade ago there was the dawkins/hitchens ride of intellectuels riding against the old retarded creationists, there was hint of rebellion. Now atheists are the most obnoxious group ever, so peterson is swinging the pendulum on his own by talking about old stories and values making him the rebel. Only on the internet tho.

Personality, the big 5 based predictions are inherently interesting to anyone which makes his online lectures get those millions of views.

No psychologist could speak words that could cure you're retardation, unfortunately.

>calls others retards
>you're