Rent

checked but i crave the smell of a lil poop and vag juices mixed. Keep in mind I am 60 and even those smells are wonderful from a 20 something woman

Yes of course it's inflated lol. But they can NEVER retreat and MUST double down on price gouging because otherwise how would it go back to normal after? People wouldn't buy it, literally. This is just like establishing UBI for upwards of 6+months during the pandemic. How would people take the removal of the income after all that time?

I could get you to pay me $2 for a candy bar i make for 5 cents, why the fuck would i charge you 5 cents?

Straight white men pay their bills.

Nice reactionary post user.
But that's not what I'm getting at.
The prompt is about how landlords are price gouging in an attempt to maximize profits, which is The American Dream and understandable.

If taking slightly less rent still keeps a landlord solvent and making a profit, the only purpose of asking more is simply avarice.

This user gets it.

>I could get you to pay me $2 for a candy bar i make for 5 cents, why the fuck would i charge you 5 cents?
How about you charge me $1 for that candy bar and make a nice profit while not gouging me for the extra dollar? You win, I win, what's the problem? I'm not suggesting you shouldn't make a profit. You should. But do you have to gouge?

How will I ever recover from being called a name by an anonymous incel?
You're a legend if it did happen but it didn't. Post pics or their assholes.

>poop smells
what are you a dog? who the fuck sniffs poop
fucking check yourself degen

it happened.. is easy and fore sure thing when women are desperate. Desperate times and job loss calls for using all you have.. and women at then end still have their sexual parts (ass and puss).. I asked them first .. are you sure you are ok with this.. almost had them sign something.. but they were sure.. and they liked that i asked and did not just take like a pig. When I asked if they were ok with it.. then they gived of their parts... freely. With no concerns. Is ok for an old man like me to get 20 something ass sometimes.. no?

is not pure poop.. i prefer the mix of a small smell of ass and a smell of vag. I like the mix. The mix is heaven-sent and is the closest i will ever know to touching god.

just put your penis in the vagina
if normal sex is boring to you then congrats, you had too much, take a break. dont start sniffing poop like a retarded dog

i dont care if you like it
stop being weird
fucking boomers degenerate fucks
woodstock is over man and the beatles sucked

Out of the ten renters I have, I reduced the rent of one dumb bitch ten percent, no one else is having problems yet, they're all upper middleclass white people. This lady is a single 50 year old divorcee.
I use these houses as a store of value, and when I buy a new one I have about $100,000 (down payment and improvements) into it before renting it out. The renters don't have to come up with a large amount of cash like that and are able to live in the houses by paying more per month than they'd pay if they had a mortgage. It's a fair tradeoff.

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> How about you charge me $1 for that candy bar and make a nice profit while not gouging me for the extra dollar? You win, I win, what's the problem? I'm not suggesting you shouldn't make a profit. You should. But do you have to gouge?

user if there is a profit margin high enough to be gouging then there is likely someone else selling another product for less because they will ultimately make more money and get more business. Then this forced the people gouging to lower their prices as well. If there is no alternative in a market and you figured it out first, congrats you’ve found a niche that you can compete in and make money while providing a cheaper product for the consumer and solving the problem.

yes

woodstock.. i was not there.. but watched on tv. I remember the session.. young 70s women offereing sex.. weed everywhere. haha good times. Must suck to be incel poor and young.

>If taking slightly less rent still keeps a landlord solvent and making a profit, the only purpose of asking more is simply avarice.
>property renters should not be able to make profit because muh feelings
This is what you are arguing.

That's nice and I understand user, but that is not what my thread is about.

How could you apply these thoughts to the concept of rent in actual real world conditions that we live in?
If the owner of a property has the only property available, that is the niche, they can make money using their limited resource, but then
>while providing a cheaper product
is the issue. They COULD provide a cheaper product while still maintaining a healthy profit but do not.

Are you functionally retarded user? Your quote of my post is literally saying
>making a profit
so
>should not be able to make a profit
is very literally not what I am suggesting.
They should definitely make a profit. The concern is HOW MUCH of a profit is enough or too much?
Please, profit, it is your right. Profit. But do not gouge. Avarice only hurts the people that you would profit from and reduces your ability to profit from them.

Trump gives em free money plus unemployment gibs so exactly why the fuck should the rent be reduced? Doesn't seem like renters are running out of money any time soon, now they have even less expenses, of course excluding those actually effected by the covid (infected or those who's family member got infected, etc).

I'm not a piece of shit, most of my tenants are fine, with two exceptions.
One is a guy who runs bars and stuff. His check bounced. I don't know how screwed he is, I like him, but I told him I think this is bad long term. I'm letting him think about how he wants to handle it, either find a way to pay me long term, or he can use that time to find somewhere cheaper to live and I cut the losses. That house is fucking me in taxes already.
The other would be the same way, but these two dykes pissed me off. Decided to start the conversation by complaining about some minor problem with a window in a shitty tone. They had 6 months, and decided not only wait for the worst possible time to complain, but had the gall to say it was 'unacceptable'. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them, I haven't responded yet, but I'm sure they are going to have issues since one works in retail. Was gonna be cool and understanding until they decided to come at me like that.
Rest are fine, one is a tranny who literally has the government paying her rent, and I actually get extra from that, another is a doc, the other is a Goldman Sachs Jew, and the last couple is just rich.

>If there is more money available from renters, I should take it all, because I am entitled to all of it.
You too are missing the point here user.
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>This user gets it.
That user pointed out the fact that greed exists on both the part of the producer and the consumer and you act like this is some sort of argument in favor of your desire for rent control. It's not. You're demonizing the greed of property owners and subsuming it to the greed of consumers. You're utterly clueless to how one-sided your proposition is, and this is why I originally posted what I did: people like you deserve to be exterminated because given enough armed support, you'll do 1917 Russia all over again and lead us into decades of oppression for the sake of "vindicating the underclass".
>Please, profit. But not too much.
You want to dictate how much people can earn in order to satisfy your own greed. You are telling people they shouldn't be able to profit beyond your arbitrary limits. You are, inherently, arguing against profits. If you were given what you wanted, eventually you would determine that such profits needed to be reduced further, as the user you cited as "getting it" pointed out. You're completely self-centered.

why do you think landlords become landlords? do you think they just want to help people out and give them a place to stay because they cant afford a house? no, they want to make a profit
it is in "investment" for them, so of course they will fuck you on the cost as much as they can get away with

I appreciate your analysis user. You might be surprised to know that I am actually a landlord myself with tenants and I charge enough to cover my costs and only profit a tiny amount. I COULD profit more, I COULD raise rents, but I do not.

They probably wouldn't be able too, because they over extend their capital and have to pay a ton for mortgage, and then we are told this greed is actually why they are owed more.

>>If there is more money available from renters, I should take it all, because I am entitled to all of it.
I am not talking about all money, just if there's no income drop there's no reason to even bring this up.

And that's fine. Pat yourself on the back for the sacrifice you make, but ultimately realize your greed for moral satisfaction is greater than your greed for material wealth, and that is the criteria upon which you're making this decision. You desire the ability to boast of your nobility in pricing more than you desire material wealth. It's become commonplace in Western society to attribute this desire for social standing as something other than greed, but ultimately it isn't. You traded profits for bragging rights. Good for you. Others should not be forced to make the same decision if that's not what they want out of their enterprise.

Pay your rent, faggot

Yes, obviously.

It's called rent-seeking. Say that you, the tenant, have an income of $1000 and fixed expenses of $500. This leaves you with $500 disposable income.

The landlord's goal is to jack up his rent to suck up all of those five hundred dollars.

>'but muh free market competition will stop him!'
Somewhat. The property market is particularly bad. There are multiple reasons why the theory doesn't work. Rental space is relatively inelastic, so the market is slow to respond to competitive pressures. The lag time is measured in months. Not only that, not all land is substitutable for all other land. Cheap rents in Wagga Wagga don't help me if there are only jobs in Brisbane. And so on.

>"evil fucking kike landlords"
No! Or, well, yes. But landlords are no more evil than anyone else. Human beings are inherently flawed. We're social animals, but that means there are evolutionary pressures to take advantage of others just as much as there are to help others. The ideal social animal is just kind enough to still get to be part of the group while otherwise being maximally selfish. You've got the exact same code stamped into your brain - you're just not in a position to use it. Nobody is a universally good person and to truly love mankind you need to accept its flaws.

That's why the SYSTEMS WE DESIGN are so important. We cannot rely on people to make the right decision or act with kindness. Make the good thing easy and the wrong thing hard. Make the bad things hurt the doer more than the victims. Put evil to the sword - no mercy, no exceptions. Root it out wherever it is.

The problem is not and has never been landlords, anymore than the problem is you. The problem is that we choose to live in systems that enable competitive, aggressive, domineering behaviour that enriches the worst of us.

But how could we not? The architects are, after all, only human.

>"what's the solution?"
There is no solution. Buy guns and kill people. They deserve it.

Well his "greed" is far less harmful to his tenants, so who cares?

justice coming for land hoarding parasites

Hopefully this wakes people up to the fact that property prices are fixed at a high rate and causes them to negotiate better, but who am I kidding? Tiger king is on netflix normies rather talk about that

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>my tenants had the audacity to have an upset reaction to an inconvenience that I am responsible for preventing and fixing instead of supplicating before me like feudal serfs begging for the favour of their (land)lord
>therefore I will amass all of my petty power to punish them for their sins in the furious pursuit of a fleeting sadistic satisfaction
Have you considered killing yourself? I highly recommend it.

Your tenants are shit but that doesn't mean you have to be. If you commit to giving people what they deserve you're going to need more bullets.

>"greed"
Stop deluding yourself. Desire to be able to boast of low prices is a form of social credit. Social credit is an alternative to material credit. Both are resources and both are subject to the greed of humans.
>less harmful
Oh really? Are the units as well-maintained and managed and protected as units that cost a little more? Are the more expensive units better equipped and furnished because the desire for profits drives harder work on the part of the owners of those units? You think just because something costs less it's innately less harmful. That must mean McDonald's, or better yet, the shit you can buy from China at dollar stores is the least harmful food one can consume.

Retard.

have you seen some of those really rotten places? well those landlords don't invest in their properties, there are some that do invest in their properties and maintain them properly, if you only pay expenses, then you don't have any money over to save, which means that even those landlords that do invest in their properties can't and everything will be like those rotten places

whether you view this as a negative or a positive is solely based on individual taste

Lease expired and was considering to move closer to work.
Negotiated and got my rent reduced by 10%.
Signed the new lease agreement.
They still took out of my bank account the old rental amount.
House is owned by Chinese but it’s the mistake of the rental company. I’d say it’s owned by Jews but company name is ray white. Doesn’t sound overly Jewish.
Now I gotta try ang get a refund on the overcharge. :/

>Pat yourself on the back for the sacrifice you make
I understand what you're getting at here but I don't consider what I charge or don't charge to be a sacrifice. I don't want thanks or gratitude for it. I just do it because I feel it is right.
>You desire the ability to boast
I do not.
>You traded profits for bragging rights
Again, no. I literally never talk about this, to tenants or other people, this thread is the only time I've mentioned it in a long time and I only mentioned it to give perspective so that you would stop assuming that you know who and what I am, as you are still doing. Discussions can be had without hostilities.
>Others should not be forced to make the same decision
You are absolutely correct. This thread is not to force anyone to do anything. Charge what you like, I will do the same. I was attempting to open a discussion and provide food for thought about greed vis a vis rent.
see above. You're seem unwilling to actually discuss in this thread, you seem to be boasting and flexing in similar ways to what you accuse me of. Congratulations user, you are one tough customer and very smart and like to boast about it, you may pat yourself on the back too. You won, big guy. I'll deposit two social credits in your account just for you.

A brainlet argument if ever I saw one that tricks only midwits.

You can categorise everything as self-interest if you work hard enough (that's the literal definition of cynicism, if you're curious) but such a devotion to mental gymnastics is a pointless pursuit that reveals nothing about the world.

Consider the soldier who would rather die than be a coward. You can easily call that selfishness because he "valued" his legacy and reputation over his life. But the calculus doesn't add up. There's no way a rational actor could make that value judgement because the benefits of legacy and reputation - no matter how great - can only be enjoyed while living. No matter how great the good, the negative is infinite.

And yet some soldiers prefer to die than be cowards.

The answer is that people are not making rational value judgements based on their greed. They are making irrational moral judgements based on their principles. The ultimate derivation of those principles is of course brute evolutionary logic - but that complexity is INADEQUATELY described by cynicism. The principle/moral framework is superior at describing and predicting the real behaviour of actual people - even if it doesn't let you feel quite as superior as you'd like to, you midwit fucking faggot.

Pay your rent you commie faggot.

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kek
you're on a roll today
carry on

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>I don't like to boast. I'm just doing it now.
>Also I started a thread to say that anyone who doesn't do what I do is inherently bad.
>Don't act like you know me.
Sure, pal.
>You seem unwilling to discuss
>You're tough
>You're actually the one boasting
>You win, big guy
I've been discussing it this whole time, as you've already acknowledged. Now I called out your behavior for what it is and you're backpedaling and pulling a hyperdefensive act because of my deconstruction of your version of virtue signaling. Evidently I hit too close to the mark, but clearly my shot was accurate, and you don't like it. Either own your behavior or don't start a discussion of said behavior, you passive aggressive faggot.

>Either own your behavior or don't start a discussion of said behavior
Same to you fren

Oh you're a narcissist, my bad, carry on with your delusions.

It’s clear this shit is unaffordable

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Businesses aren't a charity. They aren't run simply to break even.

oops, forgot:
>be hyperaggressive
>target becomes hyperdefensive
>surprisedpikachu.jpeg
I hope the rest of your day is better than this user.

dont worry mortgage will be postponed too. everything will be shifted 6 months forward. The alternative is 30% mortgages default and the subprime crisis on steoroids.

>NUH UH NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE GREEDY
The only cynicism here is your insistence that greed is inherently immoral. That's the argument YOU'RE making, not me. My insistence that greed exists on the part of all humans is based on my belief that greed is not inherently immoral. It's a matter of how one manages their greed that makes it moral or immoral. You refuse to accept that self-interest is inherently what drives all human behavior, but that's a simple fact.
>Consider the soldier who would rather die than be a coward
They value their social standing over their life. Self-interest. What is so hard for you to understand? There's nothing inherently moral about trading the assurance of continued existence for a title of "hero", particularly in an age where most wars are fought not for honor, but for the whims of psychopaths in government. If you think there is, then you have been brainwashed by television and movies.

>zero argument
>ur a narcissist
You're ignorant of what the word "narcissism" means, and that's far from your only area of ignorance.

Why shouldn't good works be celebrated?

>"the act of celebrating reveals that they are vanity, not charity"
Why not both? A proper demonstration of charity ennobles others, rewards the charitable, sets norms and expectations in society, and shames villains.

Nobility and goodness are rare and valuable treasures. Those who cultivate such treasures SHOULD be proud. They DESERVE your respect. People like you who hide behind "secretly everyone is as shit as me" flee before the light like the subhuman - or merely human - animals that you are. Your pseudorationalisations collapse under the slightest scrutiny. You are the untermensch, but at least you'll have plenty of friends.

>They value their social standing over their life. Self-interest. What is so hard for you to understand?
My God. I even rebutted this failed attempt at maths specifically and you still can't move past it.

Based

>REEEEEE Y U HYPERAGGRESSIVE
If you can't handle the atmosphere of Yas Forums, don't post on Yas Forums. This is not a safe space. This is just short of unbridled anarchy. You come in and assert things that condemn the behavior of broad swaths of people, you will receive responses in kind. Don't enter a kitchen if heat gives you hives, nigger.

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No mortgages, plus Trumpbux, plus still being able to work, plus cheap stocks!?!
Holy shit I'm going make some serious money from this happening.

>Why shouldn't good works be celebrated?
Why shouldn't self-interest be called out for what it is? We live in a society that elevates people more than ever on their ability to brand themselves as benefactors of the masses, and as can be expected, the entire concept of virtue signaling has become such a racket that huge corporations will sacrifice massive profits in order to pursue what they feel are the most beneficial moral positions, all while continuing to peddle substandard products at arguably immoral prices. This is exactly what OP originally whined about and yet these companies still style themselves as moral arbiters, and millions lap it up. "Good works" is more of a relative term than ever possibly in human history.
>My God, I can't even
If you don't want to argue something, don't argue it. I presented a rational rebuttal and you dismiss it because you're intellectually lazy. Soldiers, like anyone else, pursue the value they see in presenting themselves as willing to sacrifice their life for a cause. Political activists are little different in this regard. They want to get laid, they want to be supported by others financially, or they want a title that allows them to behave a certain way in society. None of these things are new, yet you fall for it with absolutely zero awareness that these roles have existed since human society began.

Wow that really triggered you huh. I'm sorry user.

>pseudorationalisations
And I'm pretty sure this isn't even a word. The very concept of "rationalization" implies that one is deluding themselves in order to assert a viewpoint. How the hell can one falsely delude themselves? You're what we call a pseudointellectual; redundantly conjugating actual words to create nonsense that you think makes you sound intelligent.

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>ur triggered because you substantively respond to wut i say
>hides behind memeflag
ok boomer

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