The excess mortality numbers for Europe just came in, and guess what?
There are currently LESS OLD PEOPLE DYING THAN DURING ANY OTHER FLU SEASON IN THE PAST YEARS.
How long will this media-propagated hysteria continue?
At which point do we start holding journalists for unsubstiated claims and outright lies accountable?
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What if its less because the others died in the past skewing the data. Ie faster than the rate of replenishment by year of 65+ year olds.
i could imagine the 2020 influenza getting extremely cucked by paranoia
Now look at Italy and Spain. The excess death for last two weeks was very high.
brainlet
This should go down in history as one of the all-time biggest fuck ups ever. But what I'm really worried about is that the people in power will never admit that they're wrong.
Truly how fucked are we?
>ppl die
its a conspiracy!!! we are being killed!
>ppl dont die
its a conspiracy!!! we are being detained!!
just die already retard, come here and i will end your sorry existence
Even worse: They will claim that the numbers not going up ONLY because they reacted in a timely manner.
Such filthy lying goblins. They learned with climate change that just saying "we will all die if we don't pay for our sins" actually works and the plebs really are gullible sheep. And now they are exploiting it to the max.
The numbers are going up, you don't understand these graphs. Compare 12 and 13 week of every year to 2020. Why are you spreading misinformation?
You intellectual midget, the flu isn't like santa coming at the same time every year. No wonder Poland is such a shithole
Fewer old people dying, not less old people.
Guess what? We haven't hit peak COVID yet. This is only the beginning. When flu deaths peak, around 1/3 of a population will either have the flu or be recovering from it.
Not even 1% of people have gotten the coronavirus yet.
All you have to do is look at footage of China. Its empty. They lost many more than they are reporting. It's only going to get worse
It literally is.
Based wrinklies!
This is exactly the statistic I will look at in 1-2 months to decide what for myself if Corona was just a mass hysteria or if it was more than that.
To be exact: I will compare the statistics of people who died by respiratory illnesses and compare them to other years. This will say it all and at this point the experts can say whatever they want, I will have the proof for one side or the other.
Because your options are to either overreact or underreact. The risks associated with underreacting outweigh the risks associated with overreacting. It’s really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
Good luck if you think you will get such data. Would be akin to getting data on economical performance of Soviet Union while living there.
>Not even 1% of people have gotten the coronavirus yet.
Half the people I know show symptoms, but havent been tested. Accordibg to actually representative testing, over 50% show no symptoms.
Millions are already infected and immunised, they are sinply not being tested because this being a nothingburger would be too embarassing.
Media being held accountable.
Lmfao we should of killed them and there familys decades ago.
You stupid cheese nigger
We got the data after the Schweineflu so I am a little bit hopeful. You can't bribe everyone. But yeah I share your worries.
The mistake you are doing is that you take the assumption that there was a much higher risk compared to other years as a fact. And it isn't.
*fewer
The mistake you’re making is ignoring the danger of a new virus overwhelming hospitals. The virus itself isn’t dangerous, but effectively doubling your flu cases one year is dangerous because it overwhelms capacity. Making the right decision looks like an unnecessary overreaction when you’re a literal retard
Italy numbers are actually somewhat high now, comparable with 2018 flu
twomoreweeksbr0
What if the numbers are wrong?
OK then let this retard ask you one simple question: At what point or what would have to happen that you would concede that it was an overreaction? I mean apparently even unchanged death statistics to previous years don't change your mind because 'muuh bit tail risk'. So what would have to happen for you? Is there even anything? Or are you like the 'experts' who will be proven right no matter what (in their opinion at least)?
lol China empty. 500 million Chinese could die and it would still be one of the most populous countries on earth. You’re a true brainlet.
Man I had that same discussion with friends and some people on the net in the last days. None of them wants to point at a hard data point. I was called out inhumane to even question is. Wtf is wrong with people. Do they not see the consequences? The economy will not bounce back. Germany will pay for the entire EU although most of them are richer. And most Germans want even tighter restrictions on their rights. I haven't been this frightening by my population since the invasion began 2015 and everyone clapped.
SOCIALISM VS CAPITALISM
GET THE FUCK IN HERE
HURRRRRRRRRRYYYYY
>I mean apparently even unchanged death statistics to previous years don't change your mind because 'muuh bit tail risk'
That’s an indication of a successful mitigation strategy, not an absence of risk. You’re like someone that cries that the fire department used too much water.
>Maybe if they didn’t spray so hard my stuff wouldn’t have got so wet
Doing this without evidence of a pandemic would be an overreaction.
> whole world on lockdown
> it helps with regular flu infections and thus death rates too
> ITS ALL A FUCKING HOAX
Lick door handles you fucking retarded mountain jew
> That’s an indication of a successful mitigation strategy, not an absence of risk.
I never said there was NO risk. There is risk everywhere. The level of risk is what is important.
> Doing this without evidence of a pandemic would be an overreaction
You know that you are inverting the burden of proof by requiring that, right? What exactly is evidence of a pandemic for you? Is it enough when next year a few 'experts' will claim the Corona is back? Because I say there is no bigger risk as in other years and there never was a Corona pandemic. Prove me wrong.
Attention glowniggers, CDC/WHO shills, shills working on other agendas: your shit got blown the fuck out in January, you've been on damage control since. Please fuck off now and leave the board, thanks people who weren't complete fucking retards and have done more to save lives as opposed to you stupid bureaucratic waste of space. Sleep soundly, your homes burn first.
I know that feeling. The answer is they really don't see the long term consequences. And the majority of people will always believe what the mainstream says. They can't think for themselves.
>What exactly is evidence of a pandemic for you
Look up the definition of a pandemic you stupid nigger
I did it 2 months ago faggot. Again there is no pandemic. Prove me wrong retard. You are so convinced of your own (is it your own?) opinion but can't even give evidence to me.
Based.
A death rate that doesn't distinguish between dying of corona or from it is useless.
*or with it
If you knew what a pandemic was you’d recognize it by the infection numbers. You’re on the same retard tier with flat earthers and 5G phobia
>people who died from a pandemic can't die from another things
wow... no way,.. mind blowning man
You know that my whole argument is that Corona is part of the usual flu right? I am not disputing the existence of it nor its wide spread. You can't even think one level ahead. I am done here. YOU WIN!
>Corona is part of the usual flu right
It literally isn’t, you fucking idiot. Did you sequence it yourself and found out that it’s actually the flu and everyone is lying? No? Fuck off
>Italy and Spain - very high excessive mortality
I wonder what might have caused it
OH NO HAPPENING BROS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN, WE GOT TOO COCKY
My point is that they always had been diagnosed as the flu, because we never tested for Corona before retard!
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During the House Oversight Committee discussion on the novel coronavirus response, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said some deaths from coronavirus have been discovered posthumously.
Rep. Harley Rouda asked CDC director Dr. Robert Redfield if it’s possible that some flu patients may have been misdiagnosed and actually had coronavirus.
"The standard practice is the first thing you do is test for influenza, so if they had influenza they would be positive," Redfield said.
Rouda then asked Redfield if they are doing posthumous testing.
Redfield said there has been "a surveillance system of deaths from pneumonia, that the CDC has; it’s not in every city, every state, every hospital.”
Rouda followed up and asked, “So we could have some people in the United States dying for what appears to be influenza when in fact it could be the coronavirus?”
The doctor replied that “some cases have actually been diagnosed that way in the United States today.”
Probably the universal healthcare causing a shortage of doctors, plus their cultures being very touchy - kissing on the cheek, hugging strangers.
>The common cold is a virally related syndrome and has been associated with over 100 different viruses, including Human Coronavirus and Rhinovirus. Common symptoms include throat discomfort , followed by sneezing, runny nose, nasal congestion, coughing and decreased energy level. Fever is uncommon with colds, except in young children.
This is literally the dumbest take you could arrive at.
Why?
Stanford is agreeing with me:
>The common cold is a virally related syndrome and has been associated with over 100 different viruses, including Human Coronavirus and Rhinovirus. Common symptoms include throat discomfort , followed by sneezing, runny nose, nasal congestion, coughing and decreased energy level. Fever is uncommon with colds, except in young children.
I could show you 100 more results but google it for yourself if you wanna know the truth. It is actually no secret, even the mainstream reported on it lately.
This is from 23 to 29 March. Only Italy and Spain were truly fucked back then. Since then many other countries started reporting 100+ deaths per day. I expect France to have very high excess deaths for this week.
And the important thing is, we are past the flu season, so less people should be dying, not more.
>old people told to quarantine
>Less old people die from flu
was higher in 2017 though
I wish the numbers weren’t going up and I hope you’re right..
But user I know it’s scary, and even if you think we are wrong, I hope you have supplies and will wear a mask. Please be safe.
you dumb nigger, there isn't a single human coronavirus. Seven have been identified so far - four of them cause common cold, while the other three are SARS, MERS and SARS-COV2.
Is MERS with 30% mortality 'just a flu' and 'nothingburger' too?
>No underlying health problems.
>NHS doesn't count being 400 pounds as a health problem
Tell me again how the free healthcare service in the UK is superior to us.
