V.I.T.R.I.O.L. Visitas Interiora Terrae Rectificando Invenias Occultum Lapidem "Pass through the bowels of the earth, and by rectifying thou wilt find the hidden stone."
I'm thinking of starting an Hermetism/alchemy club/group/society/lodge in my town. It will also serve as grounds for discussion of politics and world events, as well as for coordinating a potential rivalry with/negation of the local Freemasons. Any tips on attracting fellow initiates?
Also, why are so many idiots on this board afraid of Gnosticism? Yes, the Judeo-Christians mutilated the Art, but they also developed it in their own way. The simpletons who demand "faith" in an "unknowable God" are like the prisoners in Plato's allegory of the cave, chained to a wall and fearful of the shadows cast before them by cunning puppeteers, preferring instead to close their eyes, accepting their bondage and doing nothing but rotting in a dank hole.
Charles Jones
>The Royal Art It doesn't predate 1400s when it starts larping as ancient secrets but is in fact the same time we see the first Talmud and Kabbalah writings.
Use mystic powers, go back in time twenty years, ask on more honest/polite early internet.
Joshua Williams
Demand Congress legalize murder of military commanders and their families by incomprehensible torture.
Hudson Allen
>Also, why are so many idiots on this board afraid of Gnosticism? Why the fuck is some cult from 60s AD Alexandria Egypt, created by Judeans (an early christian homosexual offshoot), even being promoted here constantly?
You're just a retarded jewzilian trying to distract me from my work.
Kayden Morales
You don't understand the metaphors about duality or what they mean. Look, suppose there's a god, it would be beyond gender, right? The ultimate is both make and female energy. So they use hermaphroditic symbols to express it which the ignorant see as transgendered, completely missing the point.
Aaron Murphy
can you link, pls?
Isaac Evans
>be 90s kid >be constantly told "never use your real identity online, never post your personal info" >fast-forward twenty solar cycles >every "major" website now requires self-doxxing >bigthinccemoji.png
Idk, I prefer face-to-face discussion. It's more engaging. Thank you for your offer, tho.
Caleb Gray
Shit, me too, but I've never met anyone else face to face that has actually turned without moving and looked within. Outside, perhaps, of my teachers. Offer stands if you change your mind. May all beings be blessed to find what they are looking for.
Aaron Collins
>Gnostic gender-unification cult.
Hermetecists saw the world as a fallen and fractured. By refining and recombining fractured elements, "solve et coagula" they thought they could be closer to god. On top of that their work is obfuscated behind layers of symbol and allegory.
Remember the likes of newton spent time studying hermetecism.
Hudson Turner
Yeah, finding people who, when they hear the word "alchemy,'" picture anything other than crazy old men in pointy hats trying to literally turn lead in to gold is quite rare. But such is the first gate, uncovering the true meaning of Mercury.
I just teach people how to look inside. I've never met anyone who understood it's not a metaphor, much less had the methods to do it. That's what's missing from those archives: the exact methods spoken by a master who's already realized it. That's the short path. Most people will take many lifetimes. Tibetans cut through all that. Zen, too. But their secrets are traditionally locked down.
Dominic Garcia
Why is impossible for normals to comprehend that different cultures could have independently developed parallel systems of comprehending the universe? Does math scare you?
It's all one thing, brother, with nothing as it's source. If you want to find the reborn Hermes look no further than within lol.
Joseph Baker
Interesting thread... Alcheny isn't a witchy thing per se, right? Aquinas has a book on it. It appears to be a technique that catholics could use too?
Logan Brooks
"The furnace is unique - unique is the path, and unique, as well, the Work."
Carter Ward
There is no furnace, nor a path, nor any work except illusions you are projecting.
Every night as you dream you create an entire world within your dream.
You fill your dream with real-seeming people.
You interact with these people as if they were real.
Only after you wake up do you realize you were interacting with illusory people you were creating in an illusory world you were creating.
No one teaches you how to dream, no one teaches you how to create real-seeming worlds full of real-seeming people within your dreams, and no one teaches you to keep it a secret from yourself until you wake up. You just do all these things automatically from birth without even trying or knowing how you do it.
What we call "real life" works the same way.
Are you having a nice dream today?
Are you ready to wake up?
Henry Perry
Late alchemy is essentially esoteric christianity, the transformations sought are internal and spiritual. In a way its the western equivalent of jewish kabbalah, a hidden path to god.
As far as I understand it, the Art transcends dogmatic limitations. It is concerned with understanding and accepting God in Nature and in Man. For example, behold the Masons. Their creed is not bound to any church, but to their knowledge of God in all things. Alchemy was once called by the Greeks "the catholic (universal) technique."
Jaxon Jones
Life drawing is a good temple. Brings um en. worships of divine godess without defiling, ideas spread as memes memes are virus/
William Turner
You realize you already are everything. And nothing.
Ryan Williams
>Any tips on attracting fellow initiates? leave leaflets at the local libraries? look for history/folklore oriented clubs and groups and join up with them?
Owen Hernandez
I would gladly join in your discussion of mysticism and gnosis. I too understand that I am not the body and I seek to experience the God within. please send me location and info.
Chase Perry
>normals HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA no. Tesla knew masonic tech but wanted to give it to the world so they destroyed him, recall how he had visions of the devices he built, not unlike VRIL, not unlike gnosis. His system embodies balance, same as schrauberg "comprehend and copy nature" none of this useless explosion crap we use. Implosion.
As for math you needed that to create your false reality, its all its good for, no one measured a damned thing only inferred what you see.
If I am to go with gnostic teaching I arrive at "I am god" and using pineal gland astral projection to "see the truth" and I can tell you that is a load of demon matrix bullshit alex jones always likes to spout (interdimensional alien pedophile vampires) aka demons.
I see it as more of a Western parallel to Vedism or Taoism. Kabbalah is the Judaic equivalent, and its knowledge is neither good nor evil, but simply "is." How the Jews as individuals and groups use that knowledge is another matter.
Kevin Turner
Idk, not a practioner, just interested in the history. Although there are stories, fulcanelli, nicholas flamel etc.
Henry Myers
Not really, holographic principle, DNA and the racial soul.
Angel Walker
Sleep is the "default" state of man. From "unlife" we are born into a corporeal state, periodically returning to that incorporeal realm from whence we sprung. In dying, we return to unlife to await rebirth.
Justin Ward
Right. All esotericism is the same thing described in different metaphors by different cultures at different times. Christianity is as well but very cloaked.
Lucas Lewis
You return to it trillions of times per second but only advanced meditators can see this process. The slow down their perception of time.
Michael Sullivan
i agree. i believe the bible is much like alchemical writings "The red dragon breaths great fire" isnt literal but a metaphor.
Austin Perry
Simulation theroy is better then what ever you are talking about. The real answers are inside you.
Look at the likes of Gilgamesh, Plato, Caesar, Aurelius, Muhammad, Hitler, etc. Did not these men in life achieve deeds for which they will be revered/vilified for eternity? What differentiates them from the gods and daemons of myth and legend?
Isaac Perry
Yeah, I noticed, lol. Every traceable aspect of my past got dug up by corrupted stalkers eventually, along with a lot of steaming loads. The old rule was smarter and lead to a more sincere internet Eye Imm Oh. And despite the mistakes I made being anyone but myself online in that period, by doing that I also skewered history.
God only knows why me; I think it was also just easier to make a difference in that internet. Less of the 'net was in the grip of people who punish "dishonesty" and yet it was a better place to be honestly one's own self.
Nicholas Martin
Mahakala is pretty amazing but Vajrayogini practice works better now due to spiritual degeneration of this era.
Juan Smith
Here is the thing. I am pretty sure you have to kill people to get anywhere with this.
Keep that in mind.
And how impossible that is now.
Asher Rivera
Well that isn't true at all. You experience egodeath and realize consciousness is undying. But that's not the end.
Jordan Reyes
Genesis and Revelations are thick in such metaphor. The Gospel is also heavy with symbolism and meaning, for reasons which each reader finds within themselves.
Aiden Baker
Sounds like something that is passing through my bowels right now.
Anthony Allen
So if there is anything as esoteric catholicism, it would be in alchemy? Is there anything one could read on it? Sorry for the retard question
Nolan Perry
I don't take advice from memeflags, and the bible says that simulation theory is a construct to hide gods earth created by freemasons who have the nerve to nuke the dome and call it operation fishbowl and think I wouldn't notice, that every space agency including IRAN use vector symbols, that space is electric and I was correct about time dilation being an absolute load of bullshit
And if you want to argue scientifically, why can't quantum theory predict the quantum eraser let alone explain it?
Yes. The spiritual fire is concentrated body heat that is generated by certain breathing techniques. That's why the methods are more important than the philosophy.
Julian Allen
yea. i personally agree but i also think its a manual to reach a higher plane
Oliver Richardson
I don't get it.. So its about meditating like a yogi? Sounds too hippie dippie to be real
Bentley Robinson
I am not atheist, there is a creator of this simulation.
God is any higher consciousness relative to your self. God could be aliens, God could be white people if you are a lower race with lower consciousness.
We are in a simulation within a simulation within a simulation for infinity.
Gabriel Sanchez
Furthermore there has been a big push on simulation theory lately, putting it in westworld saying a piece of your brain is evolved to believe in god Evol is love spelt backwards, everything you do is backwards.
Jaxson Reed
i have beliefs similar to isaac newtons "god machine" the world is a giant machine god mad but doesnt mess with
Jacob Miller
Keeping it real, did you guys take acid?
Blake Rogers
Well, yes, that is what the Bible, and indeed all sacred texts, are purported to be. Each is a lesson in its own right, but it is up to the beholder to find the Truth in it, to follow it to its source, and to have his soul revel in it.
Landon Gutierrez
Inner, not really higher, as distance and height are illusory but otherwise yes, it's illustrated as sort of above your head. During phowa, or consciousness transference, we push upwards through the top of the skull from the base of the "secret organ" located in front of the bowels.
Tyler Walker
Yes, a long time ago, and it wasn't even real LSD.
Sebastian Kelly
If you're not ready to understand everything I post will read like the ravings of an unmedicated schizophrenic. We call it the crazy wisdom for this reason.
Not right at this moment but, maybe. Are you a fed?
Chase Martinez
i personally dont like things that affects mental things
Charles Lopez
Yes, a lot of LSD, why do you ask?
When I do LSD I can see the polygonal skybox mesh when I look into the sky., also hitboxes around bushes and complex geometric holographic shapes outlining space and time. The simulation is beautiful.
Jordan Diaz
true alchemy has a very real practical part that encrypts written instructions about how to make the ''philosopher's stone". later, people who couldn't crack it in the 1800s claimed that it was all spiritual. it isn't, alchemy is very practical in nature.
Why not just join your local lodge, or even """AMORC"""?
Brody Ortiz
>Any tips on attracting fellow initiates? Unless you live in a large city, you wont ever have an irl thing. People who are serious about this stuff are rare and are usually weirdos.