WTF I love socialism now

OK I didn't say it was "bad". That's like literally the OPPOSITE of the entire thing that I wrote. But ok. Obviously you didn't even read my comment but still saw fit to respond to it. Not surprising.

Folks, Nazis are authoritarian leftists, or as I’ve come to call them, the control left. Yes, the control left wants power of you, your family, and your family’s resources.
Think you feed you own kids? Not when CTRL-left is around. THEY feed your kids and basically you get to beg for a job from the state.

>comparing gibs during a crisis to gibs for simply existing
I get this is low tier b8 but come on.

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Nazis are not leftists by any metric, dude. They were capitalists with centrally planned economy, just like we have in the USA right now. The nazis were no more leftists than the USA is "leftist", which it quite obviously is not. And they also had strict adherence to the racial hierarchy thing, also. And gender roles. One of the key differences between the left and the right is the embrace of hierarchy on the right, and the opposition to it on the left. There's just no metric by which Adolf Hitler was a leftist, other than some empty rhetoric by him that is pretty much universally agreed upon now to have just been blatant propaganda to gain or keep himself in power.

> european social democracy
or anything European or Canadians have is called socialism here by the republicans. Any kind of gibs is called as socialsim. You wanna give people Universal Health Care, they call that socialism here. It's just republican burger mentality. Only acceptable socialism is for big corporations.

This is Keynesianism. They are temporary measures fueled by monetary policy.

Socialism is long-term and ensuring policy fueled by wealth/income redistribution.

So Bush was a Socialist according to you?

Because it is.

Their systems are based upon ongoing redistribution of wealth and incomes. The core tenet of socialism is the redistribution.

America has plenty of socialist policies that have endured for decades. Nobody would argue that point.

>dude
Listen zoomie, this ain’t discord, you know? We do real political science here and basically you’re just a fucking spectator.
Socialism is economic fascism. Economics is how the left impelements fascism, so then, national socialism is the same thing as Marxian socialism.
Socialists are literally Nazis coming to take your stuff, it doesn’t matter what uniform they wear or what excuse they use.

None of thoses countries are socialist so...

It literally is

why would I send back the check? I pay taxes. I am getting the money that was stolen from me BACK

Not here. Our housing, gas and food prices are double yours (outside of NYC and LA type areas) yet our wages are only slightly better on avg and we get taxed heavily with little benefit actually besides free basic healthcare (we still pay out of pocket or need private insurance for prescriptions, dental, eye doctor ect.)

So our system for the most part sucks. The only way Canada is better than the US is we have less violent minorities.

>Everything I don't like is magically and randomly leftism
>The post

That wasn't my question.

I paid $2.29 CAD for a McChicken in 2013. It was insulting.

He was a "socialism for the rich" believer, for sure. All Republicans are.

Your question is loaded and I did answer it.

Redistributionist policies are socialist. GWB did some redistribution in his time. I would call him a socialist becuase it's not something he campaigned on or stated as a goal.

I don't understand why this is so hard for you people to understand. Redistribution = socialism, central planning = Marxism

>he thinks his small section of the spectrum is the whole spectrum
It’s like you’ve never even once considered liberty.
Are you libertyphobic, user?

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nothing is free, its basicly your own taxes returned to you, its either that or someone else is paying for you being a faillure in life and is a strain to him.

I would not call him a socialist rather.

This is not even about socialism you fucks are just making that up.

No faggot that is just your strawman bullshit.

Socialism is State and Collective ownership of the Means of Production, not a welfare state.

This isn't breitbart or fox news comment section retard. (National) socialism is the what we like around these parts.

ig you faggots dont fucking get the difference in this situation then youre no better than low iq niggers

This might be the dumbest post on Yas Forums right now.

lol, half your country is on welfare, food stamps, section 8, free lunches, etc.

The "America is not socialist" meme was only true 100 years ago. Now it's as socialist as everywhere else. The only dfference is the medical system in America.

americans also have a hard time understanding the difference between helping people during a crisis and allowing the creation of a massive welfare addicted underclass. there are varying degrees of government assistance and the trick is to give as much help as possible without allowing too many free riders and parasites.

Wrong. That is Marxism.

I still go to work everyday

kill yourself shill rat

The problem is the American welfare system was designed from the ground up to give money to niggers. Whites reflexively oppose "socialism" because they understand that it means wealth transfer from them to blacks. If our government's social policies served everyone equally then they'd see a lot more support.

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As another person said, that is Marxism. But even within Marxism, Marx describes various intermediary states, which include capitalism, and welfare states, and all kinds of statism before some magical retarded abolition of govt and collective ownership of the means of production blah blah blah. Anyway, you're wrong.

Socialism really doesn't mean that. IDK why people keep trying to push that. If you look up the definition of socialism in the dictionary, it's not even a good or accurate definition now since it was changed a couple years ago. Just like if you look up "feminism" it says it's about "equality of the sexes" when IRL there's a shitload more baggage attached to that whole political movement, obviously. Socialism refers much more to mere collective ownership redistribution of resources.

Also, it's kind of obtuse to see production become collectivized, but then say "um, that's not real socialism!" because the MEANS of production were not technically collectivized, but that's another whole discussion.

I really don't want to continue down this retarded discussion of pedantry and semantics that always pops up with you retarded autists whenever someone starts talking about socialism. Nobody fucking cares. Welcome to the real world. You share shit, it's socialism. That is the popular and de facto definition. Forced sharing = socialism and IRL that definition is far more accurate than what you find in the newly minted definition in the post-Trump-era dictionary.

>taking a part of your money from the government is socialism
the state of nu/pol/

Marxism is just a finger trap for
Midwits. Why do CTRL-left Nazis always fall for finger traps?

Socialism is government ownership of the means of production. Gibs is just welfare and can happen in a capitalist nation.

Socialism bad. I'm not getting a check because I make over 100. Companies are getting almost all the money

your cuntry is already lost to socialism
get rid of non-Whites and see capitalism make a comeback

whatever helps you cope at night

it will be losing money for everyone
government gives money now
has to raise taxes in 2 years
the money is funneled through the government system losing some of it so more money has to be taxed than what was given

>Alt-Right fuck boi tryin’ out a new call tag for the left while showing how fucking unread it is. Do some fucking research.

I'm not a Marxist. You're not inaccurate in saying that Marxists are authoritarian lefties. This is mostly true. And they do so under this completely fake guise of saying they're ACTUALLY libertarians because "one day they want anarchism". And it's the same thing still happening in China right now, as they build up their social credit score system, and all of this gross authoritarian stuff, the CCP is still telling people in official releases that within 100 years the Chinese government will magically abolish itself.

So you want to know the real answer to your question? IMO it's because it's not really a "finger trap for midwits" because that assumes they believe their own BS. They're not "falling for it", they're hoping YOU will fall for it. Just like the authoritarian right makes a lot of false promises, and often panders to the libertarian right. The whole "marxism means anarchy!" bit is how the authoritarian left tries to pander to the libertarian lefties

>Welcome to my made up definitions land that only exist in my head and nowhere else

>doesn't understand difference of 1 time check for 1200 and monthly 1200 checks.

In order to get caught up in the cuckoldry of Marxism, you have to fall for it in some way. Midwits fall for the finger trap, then get other midwits to fall for it.
Somewhere up at the top of this idiot stack is the Saturn cultist who knows what’s what. None of those people post here.

Nobody cares what Muslim countries think. Fuck off leech.

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>AKA Fascist Economy

Think about how close America currently is to a communist country.

Historically, finance oligarchs would fund various communist revolutions and lots of people could never understand why capitalists would fund communist movements.

The answer is because to them communism means an oligarchic elite, a government that owns everything, and a poor proletariate that are prevented from accruing wealth because the nation is against capitalism.

In America you have finance oligarchs funding political campaigns, think tanks, NGOs, etc. The oligarchs, government, big banks, and corporations are all tightly intertwined. And, the middle class is being eroded with the end result of a huge (low IQ thanks to dysgenic breeding and mass migration) proletariat that is dependent on the government - and a massive combine consisting of bankers, the government, oligarchs, and huge mega corporations that can extract money from the government whenever they want.

America is nominally not "communist" - but it really does look like what communist kikes always wanted to achieve- just under a different name.

>aka. Fascist Economy

Man France and UK belong to the 3rd World now and every skilled worker wants to flee to the USA

not gibs, it is THEIR money going back at them, not freebies

it is NOT working at all here

This guy has his priorities straight.

> What the fuck are you spewing, fucking Shapiro parrot asshat. We do real political science...bitch you sound like a parrot sit the fuck down.

what a retard you are

a fascist economy?

canada just doesn't have the same problems that america does because we were not burdened with a historic black underclass - but thanks to immigration montreal and toronto are drifting towards the kind of dysfnction, crime, corruption, and incompetence that you see in black american cities.

Vid related is a guy from Toronto that went around shooting strangers so he could prove to record producers that he is a real gangster. He ended up getting thrown in the pen for life.

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Redistribution is based on theft
who gets to decide?

>Shapiro parrot - sit the fuck down

>billions in corporate tax breaks during times of non-emergency is capitalism
Lol

>Socialism is literally the force of good.
As far as I got, question begging right out of the gate.

you guys are making something that is basically just high level corruption out to be some sort of ideological issue. Obviously in an ideal world the parasites will be removed but the oligarhcs in america are simply too powerful. They make the rules.

Notice how the shills complain about the $1,000 to citizens so they can pay their rents, bills, and food during a pandemic from China but completely ignore the trillions dumped in the banks and corporations

It's literally only "Marxism" if it is a pit-stop on the may to supposed utopian commie faggottry.

Any way you slice it, socialism entails the people owning the means of production and the redistribution of wealth. It is a necessary component of socialism. Without those two elements, its literally NOT socialism, just social democratic welfare state bullshit.

Couldn't you say the exact same thing about socialism? I'm not taking other people's money for socialism, I'm taking back MY money

A smart Republican doesn't want this bullshit "stimulus". That $1,200 you're gonna get? Yeah, you'll actually be PAYING $13,000 when your taxes go up thanks to this. It's a scam, and it's absolutely socialism, although not indefinitely.

uh, ...owning the means of production is communism, not socialism.