What’s the rebuttal here, Yas Forums????
Bernie bros still whining that corporations age getting Some of the stimulus package. People on FB posting this shit with comments like “fuck corporations” and other kindergarten anti-rich comments.
They don’t understand that corporations are 90% comprised of average WORKERS??
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Someone shared an good infographic On here that showed how all the money will be divided. Anyone got something similar? Tried searching and couldn’t find it.
Because if all the companies go out of business there is nobody to employ anyone.
>They don’t understand that corporations are 90% comprised of average WORKERS??
Yeah, butt 99.5% of profit is taken by owner.
>socialism is for the rich
Fixed that for you, bro.
It wasn't 6 trillion, it was 2 trillion. Why do people keep saying it's 6?
That get's you 5700 for each of the 350 million Americans. Not that much
Go to work slave
Even the fag gets it.
Blue checkmarks should all get the rope
2/3rds of the stimulus, which was valued at 2.2 trillion, goes to individuals. Only 61,000,000,000 is for bailouts. Why do Bernie Bros straw man so hard?
yep if boeing goes bankrupt they have to destroy all of their assets.... it's in the rules
what are you going to spend that money on when all the stores and the suppliers are gone?
I deleted that comment cuz I knew some idiot was going to misinterpret and twist it around like that. No, socialism is obviously not for the rich. What kind of fucking retard can actually unironically convince himself of something so idiotic.
But 38,000 would buy a lot of goods from companies
most of it is loans
give every american a $38k loan and see how much money you get back
Fuck the poor. Let the shitskins starve
Because after those 157 million buy their new tesla's there'll be no where for them to be employed after. Businesses are well maintained ecosystems while people are shitshows living day to day.
99.5% of all the risk is taken by the owner/founder also! They took the necessary sacrifices and risk to start a business, hire workers, and keep the business going. Is it not far that the people who started it and are running things deserve the profits from doing so?
Workers are paid based on skill set and also what they are willing to work for.
but there are 157 million white americans, you know the real americans.
because if all businesses in America close then no one will have a job for 5 years
oh yeah trillions in interest free money isn't a "bailout" for banks
It was a throwaway line Bernie made in a debate now all the Bernouts are repeating it
100% of the profit is taken by the owner (usually owners), but even major corporations are lucky to make 7% profit on the gross because the rest of the money goes to paying the employees and other expenses.
How exactly do you think big business works?
1.2 trillion are going to states.
Holy fuck everyone in this thread is dumb.
The answer is HYPERINFLATION
>2 trillion to start
>4 trillion to come in the same plan
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Yes, all the assets that existed before the great depression existed the day after as well.... but that doesn't make the great depression a good thing.
Dude whatever. It's real life. It's what we do in this country, and it's mostly Republicans who are behind it and supporting it. There are a lot of corrupt DNC politicians, but in terms of the voters themselves it's the god damned ordinary, average, MAGA hat wearing Republicans that openly vote for this crap and openly support it. "Trickle down economics" and "muh Ronald Reagan" and so forth.
I'm so sick of these brainless comments. What's the alternative to working that will make me money to feed my family? Life is filled with risk, I'd rather risk getting corona than running out of money because there is no work. Fuck, you are dumb.
That is not socialism. Bernie can delude himself, buy lake houses and endorse the establishment all he wants but he can’t change reality
NOOO NOT MY HECKIN OLD PEOPLERINOS!!
Challenge : Explain to me why we should let males born with index fingers longer than their ring fingers live
>gibsmedat for free
if you give it to the companies it's going to trickle down to the workers so it's like both get it
think about it goy
Did everyone here just check their fingers?
>99.5% of all the risk is taken by the owner/founder also!
Apparently fucking not. If they know they'll get a bailout every time they fuck up, there is no risk.
They socialize the costs; privatize the profits.
>They don’t understand that corporations are 90% comprised of average WORKERS??
Don't you understand that 99% of corporations are controlled by the same few rich ((people))? If you give them that money, you can be happy if the average worker gets to see even half of it. The rest will go their offshore accounts.
> Giving a bailout instead of building 60 Mars colonies
REMEMBAH DA 6 TRILLION GOY
Bailouts are socialist mate. You didn’t actually prove him wrong
>That is not socialism
Uh huh. OK. Whatever you say, dude
If everyone had 38k, the laws of markets will make sure that it means literally nothing and all of it would accrue to rentseekers.
Coronavirus and local government ordered lockdowns is the business’s fuckup now???? Your argument makes sense for Banks giving out loans like candy in 2008, but not for this.
Because we're supposed to keep this entire credit/usury scam going. They give the money to the banks, the banks then lend it to us at interest, and we keep the sham going.
The rebuttal is that we never should have made a fucking $6,000,000,000,000 god damn mother fucking spending fucking bill.
>give the government the authority to dictate whether you live or die in agony if your medical bills start impacting how much money they can embezzle from taxpayers to buy yachts
>Socialism is for the poor
Eat shit. Theres too many fucking people in America to make socialism work on a federal level. Itd only ever work on a State level, and if we're being honest with ourselves, Bernie and all the other political Canaanites that champion socialism would never even attempt to make socialism work in their own states because itd severely limit the amount of money they'd be able to steal from taxpayers. They have the power to make it work, but they want the big boys to pay for it because they're all greedy jews. When are you going to wipe Tyrone's cum from your eyes and see your heros for who they truly are?
It wouldn’t happen because the price of Tesla’s would sky rocket
Do you not understand that nobody is forcing the workers to continue working for that wage. And nobody is forcing you to buy that corporation’s goods/services. We voluntarily give out money to them in exchange for what they sell... stop whining that they now have more money in their pockets than you do. If I give you a dollar to buy your candybar, I cannot then get pissed off that you now have a dollar and I don’t. And what you decide to do with that dollar isn’t any of my business and I’m not entitled to it.
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>>give the government the authority to dictate whether you live or die in agony if your medical bills start impacting how much money they can embezzle from taxpayers to buy yachts
This is complete and utter fiction. 100%, from top to bottom. Socialized medicine exists all over the world and this doesn't happen.
Because that would be racist. They have to give something to the minorities also.
The workers see none of that money, retard. The only "help" they get is not being fired. And that already happened. So why should we bail them out if the workers already lost their jobs??
If all you have is a semantic debate you already lost. It's a bailout to prop up the economy. Lots of free shit on the table with no strings attached for both citizens and business. Is it not? Inb4 it's a loan, we know some of it doesn't have to be paid back. I just want people to be fucking honest with themselves and others. I'm disgusted by both sides now.
>99.5% of all the risk is taken by the owner/founder also!
The fuck it is, it’s the new hire grunts that take the biggest risks in a business. They’re the ones that can get cut and might lose their home.
If a business fails the owner still has asset liquidation to look forward to assuming they weren’t massively in debt from being overly ambitious
Screw teslas, the price of rent and basic necessities would skyrocket.
>"Your rent is now 3,000 bucks more this month, oh and milk now costs $100 more lol. Dont forget to buy your modestly priced $60 of gas per gallon lol!"
>Yaaaaay socialism!!!!
90% of the economy is made up of small businesses. These large corporations won't have any revenue source if all their small business customers go under.
you are a retard. consumers would spend the money and keep the companies in business. instead we'll get corporate buybacks that will of course be done through interest free or nearly interest free loans which the executives will use to pump up the stock price and then sell making themselves millions/billions. oh and the U.S. taxpayer will also be paying all their employees salaries for months with a cost to employers of 20%. this bill is the greatest rip off ever perpetuated on the American public, literally Obama/Bush stimulus is a fucking baby compared to this monster. and yet dumb miga ass boomer retards eat it up as the government hands them $1,200 of their own money while sticking a per individual cost of almost $70,000 debt into their other pocket
I said “trickle down economics” is not socialism. The bailouts absolutely are socialist.
Why does Boeing need a bailout when they should've been responsible and put money aside for such an occasion? They're the ones that decided that stock buybacks and hiring pajeets for pennies on the dollar were more important than their long term stability.
I already said that but no one else is except you. How quickly did people forget Venezuela and Zimbabwe?
They specifically banned buying back stock faggot
If we did that how do illegal immigrants get money
it is 6 trillion you retard as it authorizes the FED in combination with the treasury to loan the treasury $4 trillion printed bucks to buy up securities through the treasury that the FED isn't allowed to own. in other words allowing the treasury to pursue endless bailouts and stock buys or securities buys to prop up a failing market that would and rightfully should crash otherwise because everything to Trump is muh stronk stobnk marbket
>Who is Alfie Evans?
They shouldn’t get it. GM, Boeing etc should all go under
Thank you.
hey bud I know you are an absolute idiot. but there is no ban on stock buybacks using the low interest loans giving out like candy. see the government and bankers know that people like you are morons so they just write in you can't use direct bail out money for stock buybacks for like 6 months. but loans don't count as bailout money moron so they can do whatever they want with that money. oh and they'll do it too, while idiots like you pay their employee expenses at almost 80% of cost for like 8 months to boot. the government loves retards and miga ass boomer morons like you bud because it makes it so easy, so very easy to fleece the fucking sheep
>consumers would spend the money and keep the companies in business
Who tf is spending money on anything but grocery stores right now?
A kid that got shitloads of free healthcare for his entire life that a poor or even middle class American family would never be able to afford. And most likely even his own parents wouldn't have been able to afford the level of care he got here in the USA. And then he was taken off a ventilator because he had no hope of life and was living in abject pain and misery because his stupid parents didn't want to face the facts. And Trump and his supporters tried to spin it as "socializm is bad"
>people will spend the money on businesses that are forced to close, keeping them in business.
It doesn't work like that. Give a barber shop money to pay their lease and they will be open when this is over. Give money to people who need a hair cut and the barber shop won't get any of it for two months because they are forced to close.
oy vey, like they couldn't find a way around that shit. just use the money you set aside for operating cost to buy back the stock and the government gibs for operating costs.
No, they sell them off dirt cheap, or the banks keep them as collateral. Peoples retirement accounts also invested in these companies also go to shit. Now you either have banks or foreigners holding all of America's assets and infrastructure. Probably foreigners, since the banks can only sell off the assets, which they will have to do because all of the debt they hold from the businesses is now worthless. Chinese or russians buying up the us isnt a good plan. And what's worse is if they even want to employ Americans, which are very expensive workers. Now you've got cheap Chinese and russian labor working in US companies as foreigners and foreign nations. The US economy would be worthless, the US defaults. Country collapses.
>inb4 and that's a good thing
That's why when given a choice you bail out the businesses and not the workers.
It makes companies retain workers.
smart people with money, poor folks like you stay in the grocery store six feet apart from everyone else goy while you spend your food stamps
No shit, it’s not like they wouldn’t get the money from the other side
Ah sure shut down all the US corporations and banks. Sure the Chinese will love that and sure Americans don't need money anyway, they can live off sniffing socialist farts
sure thing retard.
That question is anti-semitic hate speech.
wow almost like if the government did insist on bailing out their (((friends))) well run companies would come in a buy their assets
Was it this?
wow look someone else with a brain. also remember that the loans have no stipulations on what they are used for as they are loans after all, just insanely privileged ones at tax payers expense
Causes its my 401k you retard.
'Holy shit you are the most ass blasted seething faggot I've seen in a while. Please dilate your skull with a shotgun
I couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer his challenge. Are you not able to? If not then how are you sure he is wrong?
Not true! Trump is based! The FED has a plan to undwind QE! ITS JUST A LOAN BRO
The jews werent wrong when they said most Goyim are as dumb as animals, unfortunately. As much as I want to believe that human beings arent as dumb as they let on, topics like this only proves to me that kikes are right about most of us. People magically become retarded and foolish when they abandon God and start worshipping science and politicians.
Here is the answer:
If small and medium businesses are allowed to fail their assets will be purchased by the bank for next to nothing. Then the mega rich who still have money to burn in a time of crisis buy those assets for pennies on the dollar. Then, when the economy does rebound the mega rich just got richer and tightened their grip over muh-workers. Now instead of working for dude down the street you work for Jeff Bezos.
Protecting small and medium businesses benefits the socialists and “workers” as much as anybody. Aint nobody retiring off of $38,000. And $38,000 isnt keeping most businesses afloat for that long.
You should clear that up for the businesslets
>owners take 100% of the profits
You and I understand what that means because its business and finance 101. Plebs think
>why dont they give some of that profit to the workers
Because the workers pay is a cost. There is nothing stopping a worker from owning a piece of the business they work for, especially a publicly traded corporation. Smaller LLCs and corps you have to talk to the owner about being partner or a shareholder. But that means you actually have to show you're dedicated to the organization by investing your own money just like they did. Most workers arent willing to do that.
imagine falling for the 401k meme
not to late to take out a loan and buy physical gold.... if you think that money will be there when you retire I honestly feel fuckin bad for you
i'm sorry you are too stupid to understand the adult conversation occurring. perhaps if you weren't an uneducated moron whose days consist of jerking your small dick off and trying to insult people you'd have amounted to something in life. don't forget to stand six feet apart when spending your food stamps goy
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This
Lol The Fed gave billionaire hedge funds a buyer for their shit positions in March.