The same demographic among whites that become Neo-Nazis are the same among young Arab men who become Jihadists. It's the most comfortable, least difficult ideology to adopt that rejects the current arrangement of affairs in the modern world. If you're a gay kid who goes to university in the 90s then you end up as an anti-globalisation protestor. There's different brands of 'anti-globalisation' but they all amount to the same thing: a return to tradition, the local, the small, the anti-modern. Or they fuse modernity with tradition in a new way e.g. Fascism. On the far right, in Europe, tho its not a "popular" right wing ideology because it's not racist - racism is basically the far right equivalent of populism because racism is ironically anti-royalist - there's also those who reject fascism in favour of the ancien regime etc.
Ironically liberalism has pretty much destroyed even the last vestiges of European royalism (the hieratic, actually Nietzschean style Confucianism of Europe), so that the closest modern forms are Maistrean conservatives (but you have to understand that conservatism is a breakaway ideology from modern liberalism that sought to preserve some elements of the ancien regime, usually in a somewhat more than decorative manner. But the further conservatism has slouched from aristocratism the closer it has got to becoming braindead, time-delayed liberalism of 50 years prior to whenever it operates).
Fascism just proposes a laundry list of political changes to the modern world, usually starting off with a return to localised forms of rule and government over federal, national, and international. Fascism can also be democratic but usually again funneled through ethnic, tribal or identitarian forms of 'demos'. But there is, from fascism, and never was, any challenge to the current modern, liberal world order in its economic system - capitalism - apart from the promise of removing Jews (or non-Aryans*) from the heads of corporations, industries, and the banking sector. As for the socialism of fascism, it offers forms of social security that amount basically to a racist update on Bismarkian state socialism aka social programmes, funded by the tax fund, to help the citizenry/Aryan race (whatever form of political-legal belonging is specified). As for the rest of the modern liberal world-system, everything is to remain in place. The rule of the profit logic of the system remains the same. So ironically, within fascism, profit is more important than one's Stirpes/Race/Kin.
And that's where fascism reveals itself to be basically a fucking joke. Profits trump race. And there you have it. Fascism is a capitalist scam. In its own demented understanding of liberalism you could even say fascism is a ‘Jewish’ plot. The ultimate protocols of the elders of Zion. Except there’s no conspiracy except minds, incapable of understanding the liberal world-order, conspiring to be duped by another loyal opposition.
Levi Thompson
Tl;dr fascists are only fascists until they realise profits are more important than 'race’: fascism is a scam. No one gives a shit about any 'race' because race' is a scam. Even for the duped ‘race is just another way, because it’s always their own race, to realise mean self-interest. Like a Tony Robbin’s casette tape, it promises everything to you because of some inherent, unrealised _racial_ strength. In reality most people are idiots and losers and no racial pipedream will ever change that. All in all it's a way to make a minority of people (in nazi germany the party elite) powerful. The political Jordan Belfonts of the Third Reich. Likewise - if I can piss off old fashioned leftists too - in marxism, 'class' and all the class-solidarity bullshit is also scam. Read Marx he could care less about any class. The only difference is that in the most cold blooded bolshevism of marxism, it's not a secret that 'class' is a bullshit category. It’s not an open secret even it's just stated bluntly that 'class' is a purely instrumental category designed for political purposes to unify strategically key demographics against the rule of capital. The ‘working class’ of the 19C today would be replaced, by necessity, with a broader understanding of bureaucrats and other key personnel who implement the reproduction fo capital. Nothing about the 'class' is inherently noble of praiseworthy, however. It's a meaningless and capricious mobile metaphor unlike the snakeoil of ‘race'.
Aaron Myers
Ok heeb
Mason Butler
Stop eating methylphenidate... your issue with fascism is authoritarianism which communist countries are also guilty.
Wrong website pal. You want to put this on Reddit. Guaranteed thousands of updoots.
Thomas Price
I have no problem with the means - authoritarian power systems - if it is used for the right ends. There is nothing in my post that would justify your presumption that that is my issue with fascism. On the contrary, that is your own deranged fiction no doubt drawning on experiences of debating with progressive liberals who you can't distinguish from communists.
Josiah Davis
Seething jew, losing the world game. It's over shlomo. You got too greedy and lost.
interesting post. but I have to question your claim that class was just something marx invented out of convenience.
in any event, race is real. it is rooted in very real and material genetic differences between isolated populations.
also your claim that Fascism is the real Jewish plot all along is just dumb
Easton Nelson
Classic reaction. The fascist when confronted with the undeniable truth - that his ideology is scam - resorts to calling everyone and anything around him a Jew.
Isaac Perez
No, race is just an idea that combs over an infinite number of material and genetic differences and forms neatly arranged political categories e.g. 'Aryan'/White, or in its postmodern racist form, every single sub-ethnic division on the Euroasian continent that can demand some pathetic, literally sub-state level independence from global liberalism, only as soon as that it won to come back begging to the table of international liberalism for loans, benefits, trade deals, "Jewish" products and media, etc.
Luke Gomez
>I have no problem with the means - authoritarian power systems - if it is used for the right ends Just like every person who defends authoritarian regimes, then? Are you really that basic? Fascism and communism are scams and uncapable of perpetuating themselves over time, pretty sad desu
Brody Diaz
Classic liberal reaction. Equation of fascism and communism. Fetishisation of the 'forms' of rule even though global liberalism was achieved through centuries of colonisation, slaughter, WW1 and - lest we forget - the position global liberal powers put Germany in after WW1 thus paving the way for the rise of fascism in Europe and WW2.
Colton Mitchell
dude you're just wrong. I recommend you take the covid crisis as an opportunity to compare and contrast how the various homogeneous and heterogeneous countries coped with it. take note of how the varying races of the world responded it. pay special attention to total cases and deaths as well.
im not going to read or reply to any more of your posts because you are not a serious person, so don't bother replying to this post with more pilpul i won't read it.
Carson Collins
>ignores every time in history that a liberal democracy has exercised dictatorship powers and vested total authority in an individual or corporate body aka authoritarianism.
At least authoritarianism, whatever its faults, is rule by people. Liberal capitalist societies are ruled by the zombie of profit which, in order to secure the reproduction of capital, enslaves 90% of the population into spiritually meaningless lives of philistine consumerism.
>Equation of fascism and communism No, I'm just stating that they are two political scams uncapable of resisting the force of their enemies. Two scams among the hundreds of idealistic/materialistic scams that promise wealth and happiness. I know you are in a cult, but be proud of it instead of thinking you are something else. >global liberalism was achieved through centuries of colonisation Also try to hide your christian values, morality is not an argument.
Brandon White
>authoritarianism, whatever its faults, is rule by people No, it's ruled by a dictator. >ruled by the zombie of profit Please stop it with the christian morality, it has no weight in this debate. Be a true materialist pls
Isaac Robinson
>No one gives a shit about any 'race' because race' is a scam. Everyone in all of human history until the (((1960s))) knew that that is bullshit. You're fucking gay.
>"BUT YOU'RE JUST WRONG" Classic fascist freak out. I actually understand fascism and am able to talk about this without becoming an hysterical, unmanly little girl - like those embarrassing e-fascists on youtube and on r9k, complaining about how they can't get laid -- because, because... of the JEWS!
What you're actually dimly referring to is something that is known as the divergence question in anthropological sciences - how and why did certain parts of the world develop faster than others. There is no sure-footed racial-biological answer to that. The genetic differences that play out across our species are nothing compared with the technological differences. One a tool is in one's hands that gets the ball rolling and its the total cumulation of technological advantages that put different demographics and groups ahead of others. There is no fair playing field in history. As soon as one group gets ahold of muskets and goes crazy, the rest are fucked. It doesn't matter if they're actually more civilised and sophisticated. History has plenty of cases of sophisticated peoples - ancient Greece - being conquered by less sophisticated soldiering philistines - Rome - who have a simple technological advantage. Later down the track the latter can roll the former's culture into their own and claim cultural hegemony too. But what actually happens is that the conquered people conquer their conqueror's culturally. Look at America today. The enslaved black population have conquered culturally large sections of the philistine white working class who, deprived of basically all culture, eat it up like BBC cuckolds.
Justin Sanders
>accuses me of moralism as if there's something Nietzschean about your braindead liberalism I never condemned colonisation, I only pointed it out as a historical precedent. It's your own _white guilt_ that can't stand pointing out how drenched in blood liberalism is. I could care less my point was and never was that communism is less bloodthirsty. That kind of talk of whatever ideology is "less harmful" is the exact type of liberal cant, basing everything around negative rights, that all anti-liberalism rightfully condemns as not immoral but amoral, calculated to provide zero moral framework so that the flow of profits and capital is never interrupted by human values.
Anthony Garcia
Commies are just jews thats why they cannot be natsoc
>hasn't studied history and doesn't know that race was not a thing until the collapse of Christianity in early modernity during the colonial period created space for racism to even breathe after a thousand years dominated by an identitarian logic of 'believer' and 'unbeliever'
Nolan Garcia
Sage and kys, quit making these faggot threads
Jackson Scott
Wh*te faggots are just angry that China figured out the best way to do fascism correctly. Wh*tes are scared of Chinese superiority so they're acting out.
Just ignore their whining and these animals will learn to submit. Treat them like the dogs that they are.
Angel Young
>the resistance beat the third republic army there were like 20 000 resistants during the war, are they isnane? is this the version of history we re supposed to believe? ok lol
Dylan Young
>a using me of being a liberal Your historical materialistic analytical skills are failing again, comrade >profits and capital is never interrupted by human values Please stop with this christfag moral parade, it doesn't help your cause, but it's stronger than you isn't?
Ethan White
A dictator is a human being who is invested with the sovereignty of the people. Dictatorships are more human than the zombie of capital, which is inhuman, I dare say, in both a moral and non-moral sense - you seem to have imbibed enough Nietzsche to be suspicious of 'morality' but not enough to be able to effectively moralise against forces that are in themselves decadent and weakening of the human race's will to power.
>"But I'm not a fascist or a liberal, I'm a really unique third positionist who has read Nietzsche and misunderstood him. None of your criticisms of fascism apply to me!" Either that or a racist liberal. In other words, a garden variety bigot.
Jonathan Hall
>A dictator is a human being who is invested with the sovereignty of the people Are you stating that per se? Like Franco, then? >a using me of being a Niestszchean Your analytical skills are failing again, but I will tell you something, it's not hard to see how christian values affect your ideology.
Communism only grows stronger the more our heterosexuality is challenged. In fact, we communists are so manly that we only have sex with other men, as women are too effeminate.
Elijah Peterson
>Either that or a racist liberal Trying (and failing) to frame people into ideologies you don't like is not an argument, my christian friend
Carter Price
chinese chongs are seriously evil. they deserve to be burnt and pissed upon for extreme cruelty to animals
Cameron Wood
>Communism is Christian moralism No communism has only strategically drawn on Christian moral themes and motifs. Read Marx's cynical notes on the communist manifesto - how he included a bunch of moral nonsense in there just to get the proles on side, as well as liberal cant that was popular at the time. The core of Marxism is atheist materialism and its Hegelian philosophy of history (Hegel pronounced God dead well before Nietzsche) is the will to power of the human spirit.
Josiah Gonzalez
are you one of those limp wristed PC babies who cry over a dead animal. Fucking go back to r\eddit.
Dominic Miller
>Classic reaction. The fascist when confronted with the undeniable truth - that his ideology is scam - resorts to calling everyone and anything around him a Jew. Classic neo-communitarian reaction. The commie when confronted with shitposting - that he is a massive faggot - resorts to smugly calling everyone and anything around him intellectually inferior.
Jacob Murphy
lol didn't read
Ayden Kelly
Listen to this cause you'll only be told once.
White Christian lands for White Christians.
Jack Hernandez
Rejecting the myth and the rite are good thing, but preserving the moral code that preceded you is just not enough. You commies are christians in disguise since the young Hegelians, just accept morality as the base of your ideology. Playing social scientist is fun, but the evolution of thought is undeniable. Be happy and keep doing Jesus work.
Nicholas Anderson
>Anyone capable of holding a gun Fucking LOL
Ian Thomas
wh*te christcucks cant even hold on to their "holy lands" LOL
wh*tes are cancer and deserve to be purged off the face of Earth.
Luis Martinez
Jesus even your tl;dr is too long. Why can't leftists ever be succinct?
Evan Phillips
> Tl;dr fascists are only fascists until they realise profits are more important than 'race’: fascism is a scam.
let me introduce you to the gods of nazbol my friend
Jordan Martin
>preserving the moral code If you can find Christ in the Critique of Capital, then you are destined to be saved.
The Young Hegelians? That's laughable. "All Socialists are really Young Hegelians!" Well, the same then for Stirner!?
Just to make things easy for you, let's rewrite European intellectual history but take Feuerbach and Marx away from it.
Can you give me something better than this facile, psuedo-Nietzschean critique of Christianised European Socialism? Dionysus storming the barricades of Apollonian egalitarianism, demanding the enthronement of the Blonde Beast (even though Dionysus was actually a Nigger)
Dominic Davis
Wow, great work challenging heterosexuality, comrade!
It's not even a critique, I'm just calling you what you are, a christian moralist. It's not so hard to grasp. Stirner was the brightest young hegelian, btw.
Evan Ross
Nice ad hominem
Chase Cooper
>Silence. where is your christcuck god now? Can he make me?
LOL.
Colton Wood
No, an ad-hominem is calling you something in order to fulfill an argument, it's not a critique it's just what you are. Embrace moralism asap.
Nathan Thomas
Check out the HIV map for eastern Europe. They challenge heterosexuality by direct action.
David Roberts
I also have a new symbol for you, imagine how fast can your ideology can grow if you make some minor, but logical, changes. You idolize symbols after all...
good post dumb post as expected from your flag, you ascribe supernatural powers to capitalism, eg. >The rule of the profit logic of the system remains the same. >So ironically, within fascism, profit is more important than one's Stirpes/Race/Kin. why "more"? governments can regulate the private sector, if they choose to this is actually easier when there's no democracy to be distorted by capital interests, no immigration to keep wages down, etc.
Mason Roberts
Stirner was, I admit, a totally deranged racist. And he did deploy the same genetic fallacy against liberalism that you're now fielding against Marxism:
"Liberalism simply replaced Christian concepts with humanist ones; human instead of divine, political instead of ecclesiastical, 'scientific' instead of doctrinal etc.
—Max Stirner, The Ego and Its Own, pp. 87–88"
Nolan Ward
a fusion of the two is the only real way. allowing words and imaginary political lines to be drawn around your views is half the problem in the first place as it ignores the complicated reality.
both capitalism and communism/anarchism have always been run by jewish people and there is no real way you can ever motivate blackpilled people to switch from one to the other because it's just allowing either side of the same group to control you
