What are some things that bother you about other people with your general political affiliation?
>I'll start, I've gotten more and more conservative over the past decade >it's at the point where I'm in some small conservative social circles >can barely stand chilling with leftists anymore. Mostly humorless boring SJWs.
Probably the biggest thing that bothers me about other conservatives is that they tend to get their panties in a bunch about abortion. It drives me nuts, because their usual contention-- and mine as well-- with liberals is that they're too guided by emotion. And I have never heard a single goddamn argument against abortion that isn't based on emotion.
Left or right IDGAF, if you're secure enough to call out stupidity in your own circles get in here
>I have never heard a single goddamn argument against abortion that isn't based on emotion. Can you give an argument why murder is wrong that isn't based on emotion?
Landon Kelly
I'll add some minor ones to bump the thread
>religion
I honestly haven't noticed as much blind religious belief among conservatives as they're credited with, maybe I'm just lucky and I've found mostly sane intelligent ones kek. But yeah, if they have that awful soft spot in their brain, it fucking annoys me. I don't care what they believe in, except it usually causes them to have stupid political demands regarding abortion and evolution etc. Evolution isn't understood perfectly but the bible is retarded and creation isn't what happened.
Asher Nelson
Horrid bait, buy something fresher
Jeremiah Harris
Not bait, real question. Can you answer it?
Jason Lewis
Abortion is infanticide and if you have an IQ above your body temperature, you will come to realize that you have been deluding yourself and dehumanizing the unborn to make sense of it for whatever irrational personal reasons you may have, quite possibly ones based in emotion. The rational position is that abortion is murder.
Nolan Brooks
I'm gonna add on hero-worship. Of course both sides do this, but the Trump cult is pretty ridiculous. Trump isn't nearly as dumb or maligned as the media makes him out to be, of course, but some conservatives literally make their entire belief system hinge on his infallibility. Like admitting that he's a human would shatter their whole world
>What are some things that bother you about other people with your general political affiliation? People like you, OP.
Evan Phillips
I can't either. And yet I feel murder is wrong. So next question, do you think murder is okay or do you think emotional arguments are okay? You've gotta have at least one
Lucas Gutierrez
Honorable mentions though, because I'm railing on conservatives too much. Back when I hung with liberals, this was my biggest pet peeve. >I'm liberal I believe in all personal freedoms >I believe in freedom of speech and expression >user DID YOU JUST SAY RETARDED >user DID YOU JUST SAY GAY >user DO YOU REALIZE OFFERING TO HELP ME LIFT SOMETHING HEAVY IS A MICROAGRESSION
They are such hypocrites, they act like they are the freedom party but they wake up looking for something to shut down or cancel
It's ending the life of a human being. Aside from all the self-delusion of the people that support it, that's the simple truth. Any argument against this simple truth is merely dehumanization of the unborn and rationalization of murder based on that dehumanization. You should have been able to gather that based on my previous post. >inb4 rationalization based on dehumanization of a human being
Jonathan Jenkins
:^)
Kayden Wilson
Right, so your entire argument is dependent upon the insistence that a fetus is a human being, which you absolutely cannot support with facts, and that's why there's a neverending argument based on emotion. Next please
Jose Morris
>dehumanization to rationalize murder I rest my case. You aren't here to discuss anything. You're here to regurgitate tired bullshit talking points. You should also answer the other guy you only replied to using reaction images, you 2/10 useless shill.
Zachary Martin
One of the non-emotional reasons is 100% utilitarian - the aborted human would / should be raised to be a proper contributer to the community. By killing the baby, you're denying the nation it's needed and important worker that would be part of the next generation. Many intellectuals and philosophers have mused over the thought that the #1 reason for the State's existence is just that : rearing children, because without the next generation - the State dies, nobody can continue it. Good bait btw.
Wyatt Hughes
> go ahead, explain why its murder
He believes there is no godly consciousness aware of him, therefore all questions of morality boil down to merely his fleeting fickle and self-serving "emotions."
He is happy to disregard the law of hypocrisy -- for him there is no Golden Rule. He is ignorant of equilibrium and the danger it poses to him. That's why if you ask him "what if your mother had aborted you?" all you will get is arrogance.
He is amoral; all that makes him tolerable to the rest of us is his fear of us.
He is also completely evasive calling any counter argument "bait", attempting to "be the one asking the questions".
He had his chance. /thread
Leo Bailey
I replied to you because I thought you might have some actual information I hadn't seen before, I was wrong. I refuse to engage with that other guy because he is a pure troll
As if you are actually confused as to why people think abortion is killing a human
Luis White
Soon as somebody offers a worthy argument, I'll take it seriously champ.
I didn't even come here to argue kek, I thought maybe I'd get some insights into what people find hypocritical about the weaker links in their political groups. Shoulda realized Yas Forums can't help but devolve into a bunch of monkeys throwing shit at each other. Even the arguments suck, not one post in here has made a decent point
Brody Adams
Retarded nigger, tell me which ethnicities represend the majority of the over-population, and whether they are a benefit for the world as a whole? Fucking monkey..
William Nelson
Not confused at all, they think it's murder because they can't understand that it's just a non sentient clump of cells. They either picture it as a cute widdle baby, or they're religious (stupid).
Sebastian Reed
The poor and uneducated are out-fucking the real contributors at an alarming rate. We don't need any more factory workers.
Jaxon Smith
Also I'm white thank fuck
Jaxson Reed
> he "didn't come here to argue" boo hoo
If you didn't come here to argue, then WHY did you put forth arguments??
And, once you put forth your arguments, why did you subsequently begin crying that an argument started?
Regardless of whatever it is you came here for, WE came here to argue, and you are losing.
Jose Cox
I'm... crying? And losing?
Where?
Charles Torres
> ignores "worthy" arguments while deflecting harder
1. morality 2. hypocrisy 3. golden rule 4. ignorance 5. equilibrium 6. danger 7. his own mother 8. arrogance 9. amoral 10. intolerable 11. afraid 12. evasive 13. /thread
You did not address even a single one of these, you merely lied that you would ["take a worthy argument seriously"] even after having failed to do so at least 5 times already, and then further failing to do so in your response to me.
Jack Nelson
Yes, you're losing. No more attention for you.
Go home and re-evaluate. This is how people genuinely react to you, and you are the only person who can fix it without injury.
Mason Cruz
Let's make a deal: I won't kill you and you won't kill me The world has made this deal for millions of years, and murder is wrong because it breaks this agreement Anyone incapable of murder (elderly, young children, infants, pre-born infants) don't fall under this basic contract, bit we will be / have been in this group, so we extend the contract to include them
Connor Gutierrez
His problem is he's a sociopathic misanthrope.
HE made it past the rope, and that's all that matters to him. He doesn't truly even care about his own mother, only the befuddling sense of loss he would feel. Feelings which he hates because they overshadow and call into question his god complex.
Kevin Barnes
Conservatives deserve the rope too. Tell me, what about our modern society is worth "conserving". Conservatives have been fightibg a losing battle for decades and yoy know what the result has been? Drag Queen Story Time.
Fuck conservatives and Fuck conservatism. Hitler did nothing wrong
Nolan Gray
Just because you dont have an answer doesnt make it bait faggot
Nathaniel Moore
The Obama cult was far worse and the bernie cult is a fucking terrorist organization
Lincoln Allen
That's not remotely what conservative means.
Carson Gray
>Has a brain >Has a CNS >Has had unique sensations and feelings >Has already established very rudimentary communication with the mother
>Is not human
Adam Stewart
What is DNA?
Adam Morales
It's what they have accomplished
Caleb Hill
Absolutely based and patrician pilled.
Michael Garcia
Gotem
William Bennett
It was a strawman anyway. He can't find any significant body of "delusional trump cultists"
Trump is a populist president because of the issues he addressed and how they resonated with the people. This is true of any politician.
What's actually relevant is how self-contradicting any given political stance is in practice -- as that determines the level of delusion.
For example, the OP, a living creature, arguing against the biological processes of his own species.
Jonathan Ramirez
i dont know if conservatives at all count as being close to my general affiliation but as a national socialist i hate their retarded obsession with jerking off corporations and the bizarre hatred for healthcare, also complete freedom is a meme that leads to widespread self destruction of an extreme degree
Carson Russell
No, it is what drag queens accomplished.
Xavier Phillips
>somebody would do that > just go on the internet and tell lies
yet its life that created war. Thats the biggest irony of life affirming ideologies, when they get pushed to the limit they always serve death. Because life doesn't care about the individual, only its own progression. You are a servent of genes and memes
Aaron Mitchell
Negligence ( a breach or failure of duty of care resulting in damage to property or life) there is your answer. It’s in law. The question is do you class life as life or do you play the devaluation game trying to render it obsolete. As by 120( COC) and existence. Meaning if we decided to kill all clumps of cells over the next 120 year time lapse would humans exist or not. If the answer is yes then it’s value is zero. If we do not exist it’s value is maximum. Thus providing value. Meaning we would not exist without experiencing all stages of development or natural state of evolution. Simply it’s value is everything. But in law highlighted by negligence. Which can be associated with most of society degenerate behaviour. Universal gift of life to cheat death.
fallacy fallacy hurr durr, you actually have to expand before on why its a fallacy, not just namedrop.
David Jackson
I dislike how conservatives won't actually do anything, myself included. We lack that dumbass quality that lets us fly off the handle on shit that matters.
Hunter Cooper
Leaf, you're not a conservative. You're a socialist... You fucking retard.
Chase Wood
>also complete freedom is a meme that leads to widespread self destruction of an extreme degree yeah, because more freedoms would be such a disaster in our slice of hell.
Go back to plebbit retard
Lucas White
"Death" only happens at the end of life. They are not separate things, and life does not cause death or serve it. Life struggles against entropy (the "dead" state) by making highly efficient trade-offs. Terseness != Stupidity.
His belief system is the product of cognitive dissonance, low introspection and high suggestibility; probably driven by entrainment of the ocular and auditory nerves coupled with a weak will to resist the authoritarianism he was indoctrinated into as a child.
Jose Cook
I think its a reasonable question, answer it. Abortion can be broken down into 3 perspectives, the mans, the womans, and the childs. I dont care how the woman feels so that leaves the mans argument and the childs argument. The mans argument is that he doesnt want his child to die. The childs argument is that it cant argue for itself and probably doesnt want to be injected with sailine and have its limbs torn from its torso.
sure, but it doesn't change the fact that your just a servent to it, life itself doesn't care about the individual life, you are a machine for genes and memes and they again are used to expand life
Sebastian Foster
>And I have never heard a single goddamn argument against abortion that isn't based on emotion. It's highly dysgenic to murder your children. It's half the reason we're in this mess.
Ryder Walker
mate overabundance of freedom is why we are in this mess in the first place. fags can shove shit up their assholes and cut their dicks off and larpo as women and tell kids its cool and normal, parents can eat themselves to death and set their children on the same path before they even have a chance, and let them spend their early lives doing nothing but playing videogames all the time. manchildren playing with toys and watching cartoons. companies can produce just about any degree of degeneracy they want and everyone can access it. its a fucking free for all and everyone is wallowing in their own filth consooming and doing whatever the fuck they want, destroying themselves, without any direction
Michael Allen
Certain religions readily acknowledge that sin is evil.
