NY Upstate General No.4

We had an interesting thread on Saturday, the 28th of March about the whole of NY State being quarantined. That would trap Upstaters in NY while NYC spews it's contents... Long story short NY State will probably be the "hottest" area of the US, during this crisis, which may in fact be the Apocalypse itself.

So my thinking was we create a survival network, via e-mail, and pull together. For survival, for making plans to deal with this impending hell with common strength, for mutual aid. For this reason I decided to try a Upstate NY general thread, to see what we can see. Status: making good progress.

Congrats to the user who started the first thread on Sunday (even though it only got 3 posts and was archived).

IMPORTANT INFORMATION:

This is not about democrat-republican political buttfuckery, or even revolution. I'm pretty sure the virus will probably kill most people, playing politics is laughable, and a revolution is UNNECESSARY, (I estimate that there's a 60% probability that in 6 months there will not be such a thing as the United States anymore - unless you count Fema units with unknown intentions). All this thread is about, is making it through this.

This is a SURVIVAL thread.

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Personal-safety announcement

Threads No.2, and No.3B received heavy attacks from either governmental, or non-governmental shills.

Amongst the things they talked about were:
illegal gun modifications,
where to get ammo ilegally in NY,
spewing retarded revolutionary babble (in the middle of a potentially Apocalyptic pandemic),
tried to provoke people into making revolutionary/threatening statements
asked people where they were,
asking and calling into question what our objectives are 15 times (stated above),
and trying to insult, provoke, and debunk OP, and other anons (in vain)

- DO NOT TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL STUFF, IGNORE POSTERS WHO DO (THEY WILL ASK-ANSWER TALK ABOUT SUCH SUBJECTS AMONGST THEMSELVES)
- IGNORE POSTERS WHO SPEW REVOLUTIONARY BABBLE
- IGNORE PERSONAL CHALLENGES ABOUT YOUR ABILITIES, AND OTHER PERSONAL ATTACKS
- DO NOT POST YOUR SPECIFIC LOCATION (SHILLS WILL SAY I'M HERE AND HERE - TO ELICIT FROM OTHERS SIMILAR STATEMENTS)

Previous threads:
Thread No.2
(got attacked)
Thread No.3
(got archived in 30 minutes)
Thread No.3B
(got attacked, got deleted)

i got painkillers, i’m happy

Public-service announcement

GET FOOD NOW

The situation is not that bad yet in Upstate, but it WILL get a lot worse.

If you haven't done so yet get as much food as possible. Not the fancy shit, but famine foods, wartime foods in bulk. (I would give you some pointers but I don't want everyone swarming the same food sources, bulk rice and beans are already GONE - I could give you pointers via e-mail, but than I have to account for infiltrators - so if you had a name on here and reputation that would be easier)

Yes, Upstate NY can grow a lot of food, but only when there's no chaos and violence. That is what is coming. Don't listen to the (((people))) trying to kill you, those who are telling you it's going to be all-right, they have lied to you so far, and they will continue to lie to you. It's not going to be all-right. Weather you have to hide, or weather you have to relocate, or even be on watch 24/7 and defend yourself, you're not going to be growing food. Get it while the situation is not too bad, or starve, or get infected trying to get it later.

If you live in an area where you don't have a well or rain catchment get containers for water and bleach to purify water.

Get a solid 4 season tent. (without a winter-capable shelter you're fucked) Get a shovel, ax, and saw - vital tools if you have to move out to the sticks. A collapsible stove to heat your tent would also be adviseable - winter's a bitch around here.

lol. there arent enough boots to lock down rural america. they have trucks with 4 wheel drive

Based

buffalo user here

Schenectady user living in Mississippi here. Miss upstate and hope y'all are staying safe. My family is all there and scared for their safety once chimp outs start.

On a personal note:

I'll keep this thread going until I get the group I need to survive, which is making progress, Those of you who "miss the bus", but might not want to be left alone facing this hell, can pick up where I left off.

I hate doing /generals/, having to babysit a thread, and spending the last precious days of peace before it all goes to shit before a computer. I'm not going to do this for very long, just until I get want I need.

Those interested are advised to WRITE MY E-MAIL down _NOW_, I've had a very difficult time so far, heavily attacked by shills, and yesterday's thread was deleted outright, that could happen again. You might need my address, but not have it.

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Dude get your family out.

I'm quasi-drunk and getting drunker.

I dunno, I wouldn't underestimate Uncle Sam, the cops can get you pretty much anywhere, and that's just the cops. Plus the military, plus air, drones etc...

If shit gets hot in NY the surrounding states are liable to establish a hard cordon around the state.. maybe that's just fantasy.. I don't know...

Just got a bad gut feeling....

>- DO NOT TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL STUFF,

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Adirondacks and Catskills are cozy.

Lucky you. Different story if you have a family though...

it cant be done. even if they had the manpower to enforce a true quarantine, it would require tens of millions of people to implement. we've backed ourselves into a corner here, we cant shut down anymore without conscripting labor to fill the void or else people are going to start dying for real..

They can block the roads. Certainly the major ones. And as for side roads.. if you know about them at all...take your chances. There are relatively few roads that you can travel any considerable distance on, 50-100 at most. Smaller roads can be droned, and roving checkpointed.

They can shut down movement between towns.

Neighboring states can blockade NY in.

there are a thousand roads connecting NY to its neighbors. theres a lake and a bunch of rivers too. Also pretty much nobody lives there. it would take thousands of men to enforce, men they cant afford to spare from enforcement in urban areas

CATT COUNTY FTW

I'd be scared if I lived in Schenectady too.

White guy in nyc here

can I email you

im in the sticks in ny.
i know what i can eat from local flora.
lots of deer.

Yeah the one good thing about NY is most of the military presence is down south locking down NYC. It will be worse in other states (with significant populations - not talking about Montana here) where enforcement power is more distributed, once this thing gets going in earnest.

But once NYC "breaks open" you can expect not only 2 million or so people from NYC, but people being driven in front of them, not just blacks from Albany, and Schenectady, but dispossessed whites too, both urban and rural.

Meanwhile. I do think the neighboring states can, and will lock us in.

Dude.... NYC. I feel for you bro, but too late... Nothing personal, but anyone from NYC is an infection risk... I'm doing this to stay alive...

The situation you're in now is the situation others in Upstate will be in in 3 weeks or 4 weeks or so.. to late to e-mail than...

You've missed the bus bro. I can maybe give you some advice but that's all.. You need to find people in NYC., and your own way out preferably by boat.

Yeah I'm in the sticks too.. But you realize when the flood of humanity starts they'll loot homes by roadsides first. Settle in them second, and patrol the woods for deer third.

>THEY WILL ASK-ANSWER TALK ABOUT SUCH SUBJECTS AMONGST THEMSELVES

how many fucking times do i actually believe a genuine, organic conversation is happening when SOONER OR LATER the FEELING hits that the convo was fake. ON THIS BEAUTIFUL BOARD

i have places to hide.
i'm not worried so much other than running out of food and having to eat plant roots lol

If the youngest and only live in MS for school.

It’s okay my parents live in the good suburbs outside of SDY.

Yup see previous thread. No.2
>q: where do I get pistol ammo?
>a: this is how you modify a magazine illegally

Yup if you don't have a bunker, (I don't have a bunker) than moving and hiding is the answer. But for that you need lots of food, because you can't grow shit while avoiding violence. That is why I'm telling people to GET FOOD NOW.

The smart thing to do is move before the shit hits.. But the major obstacle to that is family issues....

stop the larping daddy, it burns my eyes

>suburbs
I used to live in a good suburb - scooted to the sticks.

I didn't want to wait until curfew, road closures, and than good suburbs becoming bad suburbs,

I have a pretty good idea of what's in the works.. and not even the sticks are safe for long around here, Upstate is pretty big, lots of woods, but lots of people will be on the way too... 8-12 mil displaced I'm expecting.

Half the size of the red army in WW2, and there weren't may places the Russians didn't sweep on their advance west, and they had 4 times the frontage to cover. Just for reference.

Elizabethtown here. Fuck the city.

Auburn here. Fight me.

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In NY, city will fuck you...

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Bump

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Defiantly and NY fag. Can confirm by Volvo XC90

The Finger Lakes is a good spot. If it gets bad I'm going for the castles of the Cornell campus. It's the best spot to rally. Lake water. Central location. The annoying local hippies are useful and cohesive if their TDS can be remedied. In a crisis they will drop it. A lot of professors will still be there. The rednecks are incredibly dangerous but have Cornell ties and will work together. As long as there is alcohol. Its the best fortress option we have. Connecting tunnels. Stone houses and buildings. Tunnels. Power generation. Milling. 3D printing. Meet me there. It needs a team effort to hold it. I figure its better than waiting to be raided in the sticks alone. Nogs will get wrecked messing with upstate redneck and will be freaked out byt the time/if they make it that far. Ultimately, if it gets bad, go for the Cornell campus. It'll take numbers to hold Hogwarts. It'll probably be fun. Plus we can fire up the syncrotron.

Meantime I'm reading this.. Highlighted section on pic might be reason China was stuck.

There are many theories as to what actually happened, if it was an act of God.. than we have a reason why.

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Finger Lakes is where all the jews are going...
> The rednecks
Yeah right...
>come unite with the hippies (you redneck cannon fodder) and defend the jews
The eternal parasite...

There's no place in NY state that is defensible. Maybe for a while.. but.. If you get stuck in the state unless you have a super duper plan.. you're doomed.. and I don't have a super-duper plan...

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Bump from Queens. Based thread. Possible fed but who knows.

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Gets me to wegmans and the rez. All I need.

We have all the fresh water, beef and fields of corn. The apocalypse will be fought here.

BTW if you "defend" you take casualties, the very purpose of survivalism is not to take casualties. Survivalism is not about "defend" it's about "avoid".

The need to fight defensively or otherwise are last ditch efforts, temporary, and to be avoided if at all possible.

I'm not here to fight, or to defend anything. especially not (((academia))), and the (((finger lakes))).

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Good luck with that Chaim. At least it will leave less darkies to trouble the rest of us. And god willing, you won't trouble us anymore either, when it's all said and done.

If we get locked in and shit goes all to hell and we need a defensible position it's where to go. The students are gone and the campus is abandoned. The local rednecks have a hundred years of Ivy League spill-over and are actually really intelligent and not really that aggressive unless provoked. I can lock Ithaca down.

-chaim
That's a rosary on my rearview mirror you visually impaired happa

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"Local redneck" here.
>I can lock Ithaca down.
Ok,Schlomo, you do that.

He can be king of the smokeshops

I will be Kang. The hippies will serve me.

You twats are overthinking this is pretty much all you'll need to survive the hoards of niggers in NY.

>If you haven't already get yourself 80% AR lower receiver, and full lower and upper AR parts, it's 100% legal. Make sure to buy a 80% jig to know where to mill the 80%, and build your own AR platform.

>Tent for shelter.

>Learn how to distill water and collect the condensate pure remains which you can later add minerals in the form of salt, calcium, or leaf and fruit juice to make it safe to drink.

>Bring a shit ton of heirloom seeds with you. You can start by freezing beans and potato eyes to have on standby ready to plant.

>Pro tip. Insects are also an excellent source of protein and nutrients, if you get desperate enough cook a handful of em and gulp them down along with your pride.

>???

>Wait out the happening deep in the woods long enough for all the city cucks to have massacred one another and have a free for all on all the lots they leave.

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Not talking to you. Talking to (((fingerlakes)))

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White nyc here too. Email me at [email protected] (yes really, I’ll read it tmrw). I think this is over hyped and I’ve been following it since Jan but still will be good to have strength in numbers. Anyone else in this thread in nyc should post as well

>The hippies will serve me.
The puerto ricans will serve you for dinner.

seriously, did any of this shit happen during the spanish flu?

650,000 people lost when US population was at 150mil.

Funny how this clearly indicates it not to be feds but state faggots

Well it is said amateurs argue over tactics, professionals study logistics.

Attempting to defend your roadside house may work for a while, but eventually you will be overwhelmed, worse yet you can be surprised.

If you wisely abandon your roadside house and withdraw deeper into the woods, that those displaced persons coming up from the south will not just loot, but settle in your house. Eventually they will go hunting for deer and find you. At which point you're back to predicament No. 1, with 1-2 months delay.. THAT is the problem.

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From upstate, moved to Alaska. God bros, you can hold up, fuck the city we are better.

Second that. Whites in NYC and surrounding area should start their own group.

So you burn everything behind you or remain completely nomadic going to places no one is and leaving once they do

Well the US big agencies do not have to rely on such faggotry. They can just pull whatever they want from the net, wherever and whenever they want,

They sound of like the same shill squad that pushed the Virgina Boogaloo. They may be Israeli, or a private group working for who knows who..

Suffolk County here. Have cousins in NYPD who handle logistics/counter-terrorism. (Watch all the security and TV screens basically). Situation will deteriorate at exponential pace. Also Suffolk Cops today on high alert (20-25) cruisers straight to SBU. Buy a PDW NOW if you havent. No presence of National Guard out here.

Lucky fucking you.

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In a full blown "shtf nigger hoards pillaging your picket fence white neighborhood" type of scenario all you'd be able to do to improve your odds at surviving is minimize; interaction with people, and exposure to open terrain. There's a whole lot of woods survival spoons are gonna need to cover, and by the time they decide to venture in the woods for food population numbers would have already decimated. The way I see it that's a much more preferable outcome than being in highly populated place with thousands of desperate people surrounding you. Become self sufficient and you could slowly make ground deeper in the woods while city cunts are still far away from you.

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I made that. Neat.

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I do not envy the cops in and around NYC. What will happen if the shit gets really bad is they'll grab their families and scoot. And the troops will go home too.. That is how NYC will eventually burst open..

*soon are gonna need to cover sorry for the typo m8, I'm rush posting.

That is exactly is what's happening right now. Cops calling in "sick" and fucking bugging out. What happens when your local law enforcement is gone? Pass me the fucking shitty and get the fuck off my property. National Guard won't come fast enough. Cuomo is too busy posturizing.

Eastern Suffolk here too. Most families I know have long guns. Any other intel to share? One local NYPD officer who commutes out said both of his partners have it.