What is it about American culture that turns people into impotent little serfs?

What is it about American culture that turns people into impotent little serfs?

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Lots of reasons, Hans.
>School system
>Militarized police
>Healthcare dependant on employer
>No maternity/paternity leave leads to a lack of family bonding
>No mandatory holidays/vacation makes work the center of your life, rather than the family

I can’t see how this would be legal. How can the hoa forclose on a house they didn’t lend the money for? Only the bank can do that. They can levy oenalties against the hoa member but I think that’s it. This is probably fake and gay like op

Wait, let me get this straight, A HOA is a "Home Owners Association" correct? And that's essentially just a group of normal citizens?

And these people have the power to EVICT the OWNER of a property, from that property?
I may just be a cringing little brit but by golly i'd pop out the old six shooter if that happened.

> total survaillence state, ever more elaborate background checks everywhere including your social media posting history etc
> crippling medical/student/housing/auto debt
> orwellian hate speech laws

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Did some research and it turns out the hoa can, but only if they levy fees or fines against you and you don’t pay them. They can’t just forclose because you’re working from home. They’d have to fine you and then you’d have to not pay the fines.

It is. HOAs are communist horseshit, but they can't take your fucking house

Yes Hoa’s are absolute garbage. They are ran by people that feel the need to be dictators and have no power outside of their hoas. I sold my town house that was in one and bought an older home that isn’t part of an hoa. Ironically the new neighborhood is nicer, the homes are better kept, and there are no problems. I can’t figure out why an hoa is needed unless you have niggers shitting up the place

It's fake and gay. This guy is LARPing for attention.
This isn't the case though. The letter makes no reference to any unpaid fines, just that he works from home. This is fake and gay and created to get attention and rile people up. HOAs are fucking garbage but so is this man.

Is it possible for an owner whose house is in a HOA to leave it somehow? Or is it some sort of magical contract that binds the property indefinitely to their will with no way out?

Pretty sure they can apply liens, which is basically the same thing.

>Residential-only zoning creates suburbs where there is nothing to do but stay in your house and consoom
>Unwalkable environments (no sidewalks or car-free zones, scary homeless drug addicts with needles on the sidewalks that do exist) mean you need a car to get anywhere
>Rural people so spread out they never see each other unless they attend the same church

HOAs are not needed. They are created by impotent narcissists to fulfill their power fantasies. Want a nice neighborhood? Don't live around niggers. Areas with lots of niggers don't have HOAs because niggers don't care about authority. The same people that give a shit about HOAs are the same people that are "super involved" in the PTA; narcissistic cunts.

Seriously, it's Reddit. Everything on Reddit is fake and gay.

Couldn't you just fucking ignore them?

They can only apply liens if you have fines that aren't being paid. Which shouldn't be legal anyway. HOAs shouldn't even fucking exist. It makes me so fucking angry that they do.

HOAs are like a subscription for a home. You don't really own the property, the HOA does.

Don't quote me and I'm not a lawyer, but I think the basis for HOA's power is contractual. If you agree to a HOA's contract, then that's as valid as any other contract. The shit of it is, many of these agreements pass on to a new owner of the house and this is a term of that original agreement. That said, if you own the house and a HOA is created for that community and you're asked to join, you can tell them to fuck right on off and you are under no legal obligation to contract with them regarding property that you already own.

Wow. This fuckers needs to be named and shamed. Not work from home? During a quarantine? Fuck you fuckers. Landlords are the new outcasts of society now.

>but they can't take your fucking house

They absolutely can; it happens all the time. 'HOA law' is actually a fairly big field in the US because of these kinds of disputes. It varies a lot from state to state, though. Different states have different HOA regulations.

Usually not, since the HOA status is part of the property itself. HOAs sometimes sell parcels of land to other developers for cash; they don't typically sell away HOA status to individual buyers.

Work from home does not qualify as a "commercial business" and any court would laugh in the HOA's face.

Yes I am sure this is VERY REAL AND HETEROSEXUAL.

A shotgun would fix that up real quick.

Checks out

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Where is that guy? Tell him to get a lawyer. Working via computer/internet from home would be extremely difficult to argue as a commercial business, I'll bet they're fucking bluffing.

>some random association can trick anyone into basically donating their property rights while still paying a mortgage, then evict people by using some trick laws and sell the property turning in practically 100% property

I cant believe the US is real

Some German guy in here the other day flipped out when he learned that people here can landlords without actually owning the places they're renting out.
Shit's weird here and Americans think it's normal.

Thats incredibly rich coming from a kraut

>Italy
You guys have a whole organized crime sector dedicated specifically to this type of business. I bet there's an underground investment market for the amount of it in Sicily.

yes you can go door to door collecting signatures to represent other members votes and then when you have a majority vote to dissolve the HOA
the concept of an HOA is good, you can essentially kick renters and white trash out of your neighborhood, but it's always run by bitchy 60 year old women

This hoa shit Im reading about is legal in the US and it is literal ancap hellscape shit and you are literally whatabouting like a soviet peasant Im speechless

This is why injunctive relief exists. No court is going to enforce this.

Here's the thing, you don't have to be a part of it. Move somewhere else, or get a lawyer and tell them to fuck off. You go ahead and try that with the mafia.

L O L
>getting your house literally stolen through jew magic
I know a bit of magic myself, it comes in a little 5.56mm cylinder and counters the effects of jew magic.

Jokes aside, this shit makes my blood boil, the fucking audacity, the absolute AUDACITY.

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One call to a Senator will clear that shit up quick.
There is not a single politician alive who wouldn't want to drop Thor's hammer on that HOA.
Do you have any more details?

The guy gave evidence to Reddit mods but then deleted it so he has probably gotten advice from his lawyer.

Imagine owning a house and having to listen to these faggots, us bongs mightnt have much freedom but that takes the cake

>listen here bucko just dont get tricked

this hoa trick is legal to begin with, this is the problem that makes the issue fucked up you dumb Pablito. If tricks like this are legal in the US how can anyone trust anything, not even basic contracts? Does trust even exist in your society?

oi m8 you got a job loicense?

No. No it does not.

Short answer is no, long answer is jews and niggers.

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Now I understand why you need guns. Be strong brahs

Thanks user. You stay safe, too.

HOAs became popular in the 60's and 70's in the US, mostly due to rising crime. Whites had been purged from many cities during the 1960's by riots and violence, and were ready to embrace these kinds of organizations in order to feel safe.

>Don't quote me and I'm not a lawyer, but I think the basis for HOA's power is contractual. If you agree to a HOA's contract, then that's as valid as any other contract.
Contracts that break the law are never legal. If I sell a car that I don't own, that contract is illegal from the beginning and not enforceable. I know someone who bought a car that turned out to be stolen, he had to give it back to the rightful owner.

I love my HOA
>24/7 security with guards and no entrance to nonresidents
>never have to do yard work
>3 bitching clubhouses (gyms,sauna,tennis,basketball)
>discount at the golf course
>no riff raft letting their houses turn to eyesores
>no assclowns starting businesses in their garage (welding, car/motorcycle repair)
>no parking on street like niggers
>no shitty "ad ons" to houses
>cops never patrol, security does the job
>no worries about leaving car door open
>no ugly boats/cars on trailers
>no shitty commercial vehicles parked overnight

keep crying poorfags

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Then get a real fucking job instead of "working from home." Fucking lazy faggots. You should get kicked out for being faggots.

Fake.

>you dumb Pablito
>mexican calling anyone else Pablito
hilarious

>unelected people telling you what you can or cannot do on your own property
Bootlicker.

they can issue fines and then file lawsuits if they are unpaid. They can't just say "lol you're working from home I own it now" in any state in the country.
HOAs are dogshit and usually run by powerhungry maniacs, but they do not have THAT kind of power

Why would people willingly become serfs?

It's because we consistently got shit taken away bit by bit and were told we were being little paranoid babies about it every single time.
A world full of 'experts' who dictate that the next big thing is the great advance of civilization. You just wait. One day they'll start suggesting taking kids away from all parents to be educated and raised by the state.

>Landlords: losing your job because of the pandemic is no excuse to not pay rent
>also Landlords: doing home office because of the pandemic, earning money to pay your rent among other things, is illegal
we are reaching former unimaginable levels of clown world

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I agree with Chang, this landlords rearry awful, definitery not #1

FAKE AND GAY

>They can't just say "lol you're working from home I own it now" in any state in the country.

Sure they can. The underlying claim is something 'material breach' of the HOA agreement. You can lose your HOA property over a material breach. The question is whether the claim is sufficient for a material breach/eviction under the laws governing HOAs in a particular state.

Yas Forums's views do not extend to actual reality faggot. You'd get laughed at for being the weird little faggot in a room for hating on landlords

I still don't get how working from home is offensive? Are they just jelly?

>What is it about American culture that turns people into impotent little serfs?

Once you've made a nation so subservient that they will gladly pay the government to cut off a part of their childs genitals, you can make them do anything without question
Americans have been engineered into becoming a slave race

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And yet mutts are opposed to free healthcare
I don't get your thinking
It's like you want to chose being abjected
Black people are more functional than you.

this. particularly as a contractor. that is literally not a commercial business. if the guy was operating a vape shop out of his home, yeh thatd be commercial business

While I'm no happier than the next man about our current state of affairs, watch your own lawn first Mr. Loicense.

What do you mean?

>Sure they can. The underlying claim is something 'material breach' of the HOA agreement. You can lose your HOA property over a material breach. The question is whether the claim is sufficient for a material breach/eviction under the laws governing HOAs in a particular state.
Where is the proof that working from home is in violation of the contract? The person could argue that there is no business license for the person in the condo so there is no business located there.

This desu
Lefties think that rubbing immorality in everyone's face is somehow "liberating"
Yeah, real fucking liberating when people get so demoralised that they stop fighting together for the leftie and we all get fucked

its on the internet, it must be legit

>Yeah, real fucking liberating when people get so demoralised that they stop fighting together for the leftie and we all get fucked
This is the real issue. The people 'in charge' and regular people are increasingly disagreeing with each other about how the nation is supposed to be run and to what end.

Bootlicker Boomer alert
I don't know how it works where you are, but here you don't have to own a place you're renting out.

Sounds less like an HOA violation amd more like a person or small group of people trying to force people out so they can buy property when the real estate market tanks.

That sounds very nice. Thank you for showing us the good sides of your life. Now I want to find a community.