The international links have been broken, the great supply chains are off, and the neoliberal consensus is not secure. What do YOU plan on doing about that? From conversations with other anons, it’s clear that there are 2 factors to consider in our response.
The first are the problems in our local areas that require the most attention; >Food production >Elderly care >Waste management
Basically, anything that is going to become a hardship in your local community. By addressing these problems, putting manpower and resources into them, we strengthen our communities AND our place and voice within them.
The second factor are the groups who will most likely be interested in contributing to this network. >Local religious institutions >Charities >Local businesses >Other political organisations
The problem is that most of the support for this would be based in leftist thinking. I understand the only practical way forward is a long march through leftist organisations, but it's not something you can do on your own. So the best place to start would be to organise.
I know that's gonnabait a bunch of accusations, but few of us would deny we have some improvement to do; it’s easier to improve when it's a group you're letting down. And I'm not talking about setting up some Yas Forums meetup or some easily targettable fraternity LARP. All we'd have to do is join the networks listed above, and then find other anons through that and/or build up a base of support from the bottom up via speaking to other members.
We’re currently at step 1. We need to be making a list of Factor 1’s in our communities, collecting the contacts of factor 2’s, and creating a locally-specific plan of action from this information. By the time the market crashes, we should be ready to start step 2; putting this planning into effect.
An interruption in the Jewish machine. It will come back with newer methods of evil.
Gavin Lewis
>posting an anime pic of a weak girl >get serious Pick one
Cooper Jones
get away from the cities. buy 100 pounds of rice and 40 pounds of beans per grown man (for year of food). get enough water filters and propane. it might be too late to get a gun with ammo, but if you can its a good idea (an AR or comparable rifle is probably best all around) make you own masks from HEPA filters if this shit goes on for >1 year, well then we have bigger issues.
Jaxon Powell
>9 oz gold >600 oz silver >1 oz platinum
>8 BTC >6 BCH >6 BSV >20 LTC >32 ETH >5000 XRP >1000 LINK
That's actually quite a good plan for Americans, user. I'd recommend victory gardens over a reliance on buying food, but other then that you're onto something.
>food production you'll have to consider crop protection >elderly care at what cost? >waste management Find an insect that eats shit and cultivate. that. insect. Use piss for gunpowder manufacture >religion watch for the zealous, psychopaths, and sociopaths that utilize such organizations. >charities beware of misappropriated resources >local business keep an eye that the local merchants don't create their own shekkel >other political organizations when will we learn not to look to those that have lead us to these situations time and time again and instead lead ourselves as individuals on our own paths? We create our prisons over and over. Do not look to others, user. We always fall short.
ya gardens take time and you can buy $100 of rice and beans and SURVIVE. survival takes priority. it might not be the healthiest. but once again if this shit lasts for a year or more then there will be bigger things to worry about
>when will we learn not to look to those that have lead us to these situations time and time again and instead lead ourselves as individuals on our own paths? We create our prisons over and over.Do not look to others, user. We always fall short. I'm not saying we look to the established parties, or that we have to *trust* the groups we work with. I'm saying that what we really need right now is an effective response, and that's not something a handful of Yas Forumsacks receptive to this idea can do on their own. We need numbers. Perhaps more importantly, we need the organisational infrastructure, seeing as we don't have any of our own at the moment.
John Sanchez
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Blake Walker
I'm not saying *don't* prepare for that, but in my experience suggesting fitness training meetups comes across to others as LARPy and just a little gay. And that gives shills an angle to distract from the point.
Isaac White
pro-tip: 150lb crossbow recommended by ex-military prepper I bought some gear off. >Waste management dig holes, bury.
I have ARs for me and my wife, but we also have a bunch of smaller gauge shotguns that we mainly use for bird hunting, people might laugh when they see bird shot, but when you have ten family and neighbors you trust who can shoot them because they are ridiculously easy to shoot and accurate then people will think twice. Bird hunting shotgun is about $300, 200 shells under $100, the best part is you can use them to shoot birds without destroying the meat.
Easton Ward
How would one build such a network and then not be taken advantage of?
Aiden Rodriguez
Buy loads of potatoes Carrot seeds various salads that can grow in your climate As soon as spring comes start planting. Especially potatoes are important, plant enough and you can basically live of it the coming winter. Make sure your local watersource is contamination free. A dead bird rotting in your stream can cause severe illness and without help it could be fatal, make sure to cook your water. Prepare for clogged/non functional waste management. Dig and make a improvised toilet to take a dump, make sure it wont affect farmland or spread disease. Keeping basic hygiene is extremely important, you don't want the most basic fingercut to get infected, have some way to take a shower/clean a $20 sea to summit portable shower can be heated over a fire in winter and with the help of the sun in summer. Make sure to keep a large stockpile of firewood if you live in a cold climate. And always have several ways to make fire.
Taking advantage of the network is kind of the point, user. It's not *our* network, we HAVE no network at the moment. There are organisations that network, however, and right now the left has nominal control of their PR. So in my opinion, it's easier to do a long march then start from scratch. And quicker, which right now is more important.
Bentley Long
Umm what?
Ryan Murphy
Very good point, user. In previous versions of the OP pasta I was pretty specific about my idea for the plan; which was making a list of all the local community allotments/ gardening plots in the area and then getting together to form a food drive with charitable help from local religious institutions.
Anybody living in a Northern Euro climate (or similar) would probably find this YouTube channel particularly useful. youtube.com/user/HuwsNursery
It's impossible to talk about preparing or civil unrest in language that shills can't twist into sounding homoerotic in order to derail the threads. I on't see how that's hard to understand. If you reckon you can do it, try, and if you succeed i'll add it to the pasta.
Angel Sullivan
Waste issues. Assuming sewers are gone, septic systems only last so long before they need to be pumped out. A long time ago people would dig a pit and put an outhouse over it. Once the pit filled they would cover it and dig another. Of course you don't want this too close to another water source. Another option is to create a composting toilet. These rely on some material (shavings, peat, dirt, wood ash) to cover and mix with the poop to help keep odor down and begin a breakdown process. A urine diverter is critical. Septic really starts to stink when urine mixes with poop. Urine is sterile so you can treat it as grey water and dump it as needed. The compost material can be emptied into a hole or further composted into fertilizer for NON food plants.
>Food production Yes, this is by far the biggest issue we will face and here's the toughest part about it: You're not planting this summer to get fed during the winter. If you try this you will starve (unless you're already self sustainable). You plant this summer so that you will be able to expand your harvest next summer enough to be self sufficient for winter 21/22. This means that you need your stockpile to last for at least a bit over a year. >Elderly care Why? They failed to teach us for their entire lives, why would they be able to teach us now? Contribute in a meaningful way or get the boot. >Waste management Not an issue if the supply chains fails.
Grayson Jenkins
get an incinerator toilet
Robert King
asymptomatics --- are their bodies fighting the virus? is the virus going to stay in their body until they start having symptoms?
Mason Evans
I do this anyways just for fun tbqh It's strange how supermarkets won't accept carrots that are slightly bent
how to make gunpowder, how to basic metalwork, how to handle crops, how to build refuge, how to organize a fighting force, how to collect and save information (variety of ways in digital form requiring electricity and maintenance, or how to create paper and writing utensils), sanitation and medicine, water distribution, and how to educate.
...To what? If it's the crisis, then it's pretty simple; .We pick a problem in our local area. .We make a list of Charities/Religious orgs/activists that could and would help us .We contact them, or join them, and get them to contribute to this project . We use this new network to strengthen our local community through other projects .We start talking to the people within these networks
It's really not rocket science, user, I don't mean to be rude but I explained this in the OP and I don't understand the confusion.
Gabriel Allen
maybe secondary shit like how to brew alcohol, how to make clothes from shoes to hats and so on, how to make valuable items and what are valuable items (for trading with other communities) like gold, glass, cloth, etc.
Oliver Gutierrez
>How to make valuable items... like gold In all seriousness, though, are some very good points. Especially sanitation and medicine. I was trying to find books on the Cuban medical system the other day; not because they have a *good* medical system, but because their public's basic medical training covers enough of the basic stuff that they don't get overstrained even with a terrible one.
Christopher Howard
My guess is initially they had a small viral inoculation load so the spread of the virus was slow enough that the body could mount an immune response before they got really sick. Take that in comparison to doctors who get violent drug addicts withdrawing, thrashing and spitting in their faces that eventually test positive with a huge viral load and actually get sick so they can’t take care of your grandma. This is the American healthcare system at its finest
Benjamin Evans
Also saw this old screencap I had floating around from 8 (rip in peace). Anybody know where I could find more information about Credit Unions?
I already have, can't believe you haven't, you and your vege garden are screwed if shit goes down.
Eli Smith
gold is good on the long run if we're talking about shtf scenarios and you're trying to rebuild civilization, everywhere in the world where structured socities sprung you find gold used a decoration, which adds to its value turning it into an object you can trade, gift, barter, then currency and so forth. same thing goes for other commodity objects when talking about trade. speaking about shtf scenarios, communication might be critical too, as in smoke signals, loud sounds you can project in a large area, couriers, and so on.
about the cuban medical system im not aware, but if it is like you say i wouldnt think it could be that hard to replicate if you have the information they have and a means to teach it to other people. in a small community when handling a plague, your best bet is to isolate and be aware of how to quarintine and treat those in your community who become infected. again i stress my general point, being able to understand, store, retrieve, and reproduce information is key for success.
Nathan Kelly
This thread isn't a replacement for my personal prep effort. It's an encouragement of others to do the same, and to help their local community to do the same. Ultimately i'm fucked if there's 10 guys with bats and knives kicking down my door, wether or not I'm Yas Forums and carrying. But if I have 10 guys of my own, or my prep is part of the community prep that would fuck *everybody* over if it gets raided; now that's a different story.
Oliver Watson
Not going to lie, sounds like a nice life provided you're not constantly being threatened by looters.
Liam Lopez
Oh, I don't doubt the usefulness of gold. I was just poking a little fun at the wording suggested you could *make* it. Unless you're secretly a powerful alchemist, I do hear a lot of wizards post here. I do take your point about information retrieval, but I think that's a bit *too* stretched at the moment; we're not talking about humanity getting knocked back to the stone age, here. stocking up on paper and making sure everybody has a basic knowledge of hardware should serve the needs of a small community effort to build the model we go forward on.
The threads only ever get a maximum of 2 good replies whenever it's posted there, it's easier just to cap the good replies.
Logan Gonzalez
What should i get if i need to kill myself fast and painless? A suicide bag to use helium or some shit? If i get in a situation fo slowly dying in agony i rather just kill myself
suffocate yourself with a helium supply, or you can use a large garbage bag over the head, bunjie cord it around your neck and just lay down and relax. You'll slowly lose consciousness.
Jason Reyes
There's undoubtedly groups that focus on this sort of thing. Have you looked for them? Get en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_SAS_Survival_Handbook or something similar. You can't always rely on the internet to be available. If homoerotic comments make you flustered enough that you're unable to keep your mind out of the gutter, consider using something other than anime pictures. Growing vegetables is nice, but you need to know what to do with them other than eat them. Tomato plant remains should not be used for fertilization. Don't grow potatos in the same place year upon year. Et cetera.
>If homoerotic comments make you flustered enough that you're unable to keep your mind out of the gutter, consider using something other than anime pictures MY sensibilities aren't in question here. I don't want to give the shills an angle to derail. And I don't see what using anime ics on an anime site has to do with your line of thought other than wanting to get a cheap shot in.
And survival handbooks are nice, but i'm specifically looking for one that comes in pdf; something that can be copied, or at least printed/ photocopied. Not much good to a community if there's only one copy to go around.
Sebastian Rodriguez
a 3% fatality rate disease is not going to cause society to collapse...
Angel Ross
this will come in hand, thanks fren will get some then, only problem i have with the bag its that i get extreme nervous i guess its claustrophobia or something but i guess its still an opinion,thanks
Ayden Powell
Maybe not in the long run, but in the short run it IS set to cause a recession & has already bought international trade to a near standstill; which has some rather obvious effects on society at large. We're not talking about falling a couple rungs on the civilizational ladder here, but we are in for some tough years. You either capitalise on that, or learn to be content under the people that *do.*
Gabriel Butler
Thinking of buying two chicken and buying a chicken cooperative how would 1 go about doing this and is there anywhere I could read into doing this
Jose Baker
This.
Adam Morris
I'm sure there must be online forums, or at the very least youtube videos, that talk about it.
As for the where, googling "chickens for sale UK" gives a lot of answers. Pet stores obviously aren't open to walk in and ask (I think; pet food counts as a vital service, right? I haven't really checked) but if you can find one open that'd be a good place to look too.
FUCK. WE HAVE A CONFIRMED CASE IN THE HOSPITAL IM WORKING AT AND NOW MY COWORKER IS POSITIVE. I INTERACTED WITH HIM. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK.
Juan Jenkins
You sound new, but that's fine. Never mind. You can find pdfs or djvus on Library Genesis. Smallest file I could find is 9780061733192, it's a djvu. Still it's easier to read from a real book. >buying chicken Your local pet store, or the ask nearest chicken farmer? >buying coop Just build one yourself, it's not difficult just a bunch of work, literally search for DIY chicken coop. Chickens need: chicken grain, water, chalk from chalk stone. And you can feed them the remains of your meals. Good luck user.
Brayden Cruz
>lock-picking lawyer here >oy-vey >today I'm going to open this 2,000lb safe with a cigarette butt
William Rodriguez
Not new, just haven't been back to *this* board specifically since 2017. And yeah, it's easier to read from a real book, but my reading experience isn't the issue here. Anybody who wants to spend this crisis holed up in a compound waiting for this to blow over, or dressing in cut-up tyres and LARPing as a fallout raider, is thinking small.
Wyatt Barnes
How are you going to power it if the grid is down? UK already is warning their people to prepare for outages as their technicians are getting sick.
Jaxon White
how is Duterte handling the coronavirus crisis?
Ethan Torres
How do none of you see the obvious step of joining (or possibly making) a considerably larger group to be a part of? If things are bad enough for long enough, larger and larger groups will band together, and you'll end up being propositioned to be part of their setup.
You have to prepare for that situation, and to adapt to a new group. For all you know they could be radical ideologues, religious in nature, or just highly demanding. The most important trait here is to be adaptable.
Jordan Morris
There's some useful books free to dl here b-ok DOT cc/book/2324316/3d763b
Lincoln Bell
Thanks for the tip user.
Caleb Gonzalez
>Elderly Care As terrible as it sounds, there might come a point where the only elderly worth keeping alive are the ones with useful, teachable skills like medicine, farming, engineering and combat. A retired accountant or marketing illustrator would only be useful as labor and that would be limited at best.
David Gray
it's bad we on lockdown, we not allowed to go outside
Owen Watson
Is the price of gas masks filters that last only 24 hours max worth the cost when dealing with a virus?
