ADHD & Meds

Everyone's on Adderall nowadays. Is ADHD real or just a way to get the goys drugged?

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The original ADHD doctor said he made up fake disorders to make money on healthy children.

I'm completely and utterly unable to focus or work without Vyvanse. Whether adhd is real or not, who knows. What I do know is I either have it or suffer from extreme laziness and poor values, and that if you give anyone amphetamines they'll be more productive. In my case I probably couldn't hold a job without them though. I have all the classic symptoms however.

It's real on some cases, extremely overdiagnosed and any attempt at understanding real causes or proper cures/treatments is ignored by healthcare retards.

Attention Deficit, Hyperactivity Disorder is a real concept. It's essentially your frontal brain is so busy with misc thoughts your 'executive function' doesn't work, leading to inaction, etc.

Not sure if amphetamine is the best remedy though. I think a proper diet, sleep and exercise is probably all most need.

The rebound from amphetamine withdrawal is no fun

I'm on Vyvanse too but lately it's been not working as it should. Whether it is a high or low dose, I still can't focus and get severe insomnia.

I'm thinking of looking into more natural alternatives. My life is falling apart.

Yes. I have it badly and it fucked most my life over. With meds I can finally focus and function like a normie.

>My life is falling apart
You have to be careful with that stuff. don't overdo it.

If it's not working as well, you need to exercise and get your metabolism running. Vyvanse is totally dependent on your metabolism

It is both of course. 90% of those taking it do not need it though. They are just trying to punch above their weight academically or degenerate addicts.

It's real. It can goof a person's life up.

I take 70mg at 10 every night (I work overnights and wake up at 9:30) and shit has me awake well past what it should. I don't get tired in the slightest until 5pm. Eventually you loose the 'speedy' feeling but you'll still be left with a nice little kick of energy, motivation and won't feel tired or fatigued in the slightest for a while. Maybe you're looking at the wrong outcomes?

Thanks. The last few months I've been way more sedentary and lazy than usual so that might be it.

I am like this as well, mentally I can only work in short sprints when I do things. Physical tasks are easier because I can shut my brain off or let my mind wander while I do work.

The only real exception to this is if I have an external pressure like someone working alongside me or a deadline that needs to be met (that I'm barely giving myself time to read)

The first time I took Vyvanse all I could think is what it was like to feel normal.

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This, a high protein diet is a part of getting Vyvanse to work correctly.

The problem is that school sucks, and chillrunz hate doing paperwork for 6 hours per day. Some like drawing swastika & calling people names. They prefer to run instead of walking. So lazy assholes put them on drugs & force them to do stupid paperwork.

It's the physical shit that's gets me the most as a mechanic. I feel as much as lack of motivation gets me, I feel winded and tired much quicker without it and stop almost as much for how my body feels as I do for how my brain feels

I take 70 in the morning. I can focus for like 7 hours at best. Then the comedown hits and I get really tired but my heart rate is still up the roof. To sleep I have to wait at least till the next day's morning.

And after 12+ years of shitty school teaching shitty thought processes & punishing creativity & intelligence, having hormone irregularities from sedentary behavior& oppression the adults are unprepared for doing actual work.

I used to have autist laser super focus before your tribe of inbred subhumans fried my brain. Now I'm sort of disabled.

Source? legitimately curious

real symptomolgy alleviated with said medications
its a lifelong disease, symptoms are pervasive and last until adulthood, boys are grossly over diagnosed simply for being hyper active and will have actual executive functions, females are usually only diagnosed as adults, helicopter parents can keep their kid from even noticing they have symptoms when they organize their entire life and show up in court ordered therapy in their 20s post college, most people cant make it through college on their own
over diagnosed or misdiagnosed kids have little to fuck all improvement from meds and will basically give them symptoms if they take it, meds taken by people with it, its practically night and day for both kids and adults and the low rent meth they take crashes them hard when they come off it and go straight back to symptoms

Also this. Plus add to the fact that all of those years of public schooling making children wake up at ridiculous early hours for school, which leads to sleep deprivation, which is a hellish nightmare for any child's growth and development both physically and mentally.

Hopefully I can find a crooked doctor who can give me a script over the internet. I found one site, but fuck, it's only available in 3 states.

The relentless bullying was really hard on me. I just wanted to run around play games & learn actual shit. I had a high school reading & 7th grade math comprehension in 3rd grade, but it was endless addition subtracting & kids books

I think I'm addicted because of my ADHD. Nit to anything hard but just any substance that slows my brain down. Sometimes I just want to die not being able to control my thoughts on my own or focus, or stay motivated. I'm a hard worker, love god, love my family but I need to smoke weed or drink a beer or even bring me down with benadryl. I have been on meds since before I can remember, literally cant remember not taking meds since I was 7 for it. And now that I've stopped I have this urge to get the control back. I dont even want to get high, or drunk, in fact I hate it, I just feel tired not even any euphoria or good feelings. I just want to be able to relax and breathe mentally. I've tried being clean, working out, good diet but always get depressed ir anxiety after a while more so than normal. I think the only time I'm happy is when I make my gf, sister or family laugh. This is defeating me.

I think it's real I take 50 mg of a version of adderall. Though I don't think people look into the causes enough they just assume it's strictly genes that cause this to pop up, But things like childhood mouth breathing being born from a c-section which leads to lack of bacteria that is good in your gut. Also women are having kids older and older which explains increases in rates of autism as well also I would say it's over diagnosed in younger boys as they don't seem to understand boys who for the past 10,000 years would live mostly outside constantly moving breathing in fresh air aren't adept to sitting inside all day. They have also done studies I forget where I found it that if you give normal people adderall over time they slow dopamine production and their brains resemble a normal adhd brain and they function they same without adderall as an adhd patient would so maybe the medication actually makes it worse for some people but as far as I am concerned i am pretty hooked. I feel as though I should be taking more not less i have been trying to spend less time off it and do more dopamine detoxes but I can't manage to get it lower then 50 mg before I can hardly function in school or do more then basic tasks at any time.

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I was in the same boat. I'd always read ahead in the textbooks to see if there was any new knowledge to assimilate. Thing is though I had enough intelligence to compensate. I recently got diagnosed with ADD/inattentive type and prescribed atomoxytine. It's like a fog has been lifted from my brain and I'm firing on all cylinders. It's like the movie limitless depicts the clarity of that drug

How did you get off adderall I have really struggling with that one? i can't boost dopamine levels close to the amount I need to function in school and even on the meds I am barely trying even after 1-2 months I still can't focus without adderall it just makes it more effective when I go back on the adderall.

Pretty much every single person who is really productive/really into their job is on some kind of amphetamine desu. The only real problem with them is not being able to sleep or eat very well, amphetamines are extremely effective at getting people doing useful things, and apart from giving you infinite energy they don't really have any other "drug" effects. The biggest issue is that they're almost too good, it's just a lot quicker, cheaper and easier to give people speed instead of sorting out any underlying problem

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Do you have an equivalent to Zzzquil?

Have you tried high fat suppliments?
Alot of anxiety is basically your brain shorting out cause its lacking omega 3 & some other important stuff. I try lots of stuff so let me suggest adding to your diet:

Unrefined Red palm oil - rich in saturated fats tocotrinols & carotenoids
Fish oil - omega 3 fatty acids epa +dha
Flax oil also omega 3 rich
Chia seeds
Methyl B vitamin complex
Tree nuts
Anatto seeds

Start off slow & ramp up I find those things dont mix well, so I do some shots & wash down with vegetable juice

And also avoid preservatives & gmo never eat hydrogenated oils.

Adderall is based and redpilled
I don’t know why jews would want people on it

You can get mucina dopa which is herbal.

Me too

it's not real.

Nytol is the name diphenhydramine is sold under in England, but any over the counter sleep pill won't cut if for keeping a healthy sleep schedule whilst using amphetamines, i've take 5 50mg tablets before and not fallen asleep. The NHS can give you stuff that puts you to sleep rather than helping you to sleep but they won't write prescriptions.

>Everyone's on Adderall nowadays.
just faggots like you op

Thats cool that drugs work for you. I do best when working/traveling/hiking & socializing. This Coronavirus shutdown has really been shitty for me.

Never liked Adderall. I went from Vyvanse to Dextroamphetamine IR, (which drove me to quit, long story) Wellbutrin ended up pulling me out of that hole, but I've ended up back on Vyvanse, which I think is the best. Can't really abuse it and it's a smooth come up / down

You're not real...

I think it’s chronic anxiety due to childhood trauma or something.

I take adderall plus Zyban, Zyban is very difficult to get over here, I find it very helpful.

Most 'busy minded' people can be diagnosed by a real psychologist. I recall one of the questions being "Do you daydream?" I mean, who doesn't?

I'm supposed to be on it but

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My drugs name is methylphenidate which I have been told is just a generic version or Ritalin or adderall I may talk to my doctor about switching it's been good for the past 2-3 years till it starts getting ineffective half way through the year then I have to go off it for a week or during summer for months to get the effect back. I wish it was more sustainable

Absolutely. All of the presidential candidates have to be on some good shit for being old as fuck and bantering for hours late at night. Marco Rubio last time almost let the beans spill. Goddamn he was tweakin.

70mg? How long you been taking it?

I am an introvert, so socializing doesn't do much for me. However, work and introspection does do wonders.
Atomoxetine is the generic version of Strattera, and it works by inhibiting the reuptake of norepinephrine and increases the levels of that and dopamine without it coming on like a stimulant, it feels more natural compared to the superhuman effects of the stimulants

Yeah but I can hold 20 different day dreams at the same time, and it's a whole lot more interesting than sitting at a desk!

It's real but not a disorder. That is, its just a different type of thinking that society now punishes because they want docile cattle.

At most other times in history ADHD would be a huge advantage. ADHD often have a creative racing mind that thrives on stimulation and random challenges, the complete opposite of schooling and corporate jobs that basically amount to data entry.

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Takes a lot of $ and time out of my day. I remember ED meds took a while before I could get them through an online doc. Now there's a bunch to choose from.

I used to hang out with my dealer in which we'd rail a few pills over the course of the night and just play SC2. It's been a good five years since we hung out. I wonder if Tom got his dumbass locked up.

I took Concerta briefly, which is the time released version of that. Vyvanse is definitely more potent. Amphetamines are more 'euphoric' to me, which can be good and bad

It's real, just means you are a different class not that you should be medicated. Society keeps trying to make everyone the same while promoting diversity.

>I take 50 mg of a version of adderall
WOW, why so much and what doctor presecribed this?

insurance limits it at 30 and usually 20.

Or are you taking vyvanse? Which it is really 25 mg of adderall then.

True. Amphetamine was legal in the 50s. Big Pharma fucked us

Adderall (amphetamine and dextroamphetamine) and Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine) are NOT THE SAME THING.

Same here. Always been like this until i started taking meds last year.

ADHD meds are basically a means to force natural firefighters, danger-driven people, etc. into being white collar wagies. It comes with the stigmatization of the blue collar class. "Noooo I want my son to grow up to be a wagie who sits at a desk for 8 hours, not be on his feet!".

Yeah this, any kind of amphetamine based stimulant provides such a colossal boost in productiveness that I would wager it is nigh on impossible to be a valid political candidate without being on some of that good shit. If you need to bullshit millions of people with the upmost confidence for 2 hours solid without looking like you're clearly on drugs you've only really got one option

Only difference is Vyvanse is a single 'salt' where Adderall is four. Vyvanse also has to be metabolised before it's effective. Otherwise, it's the same family of drug

I take 50 mg of methylphenidate which I have been told is a generic version of Ritalin

>It looks like this image

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Except Trump

nah man, speed just make firemen a lot better at putting out fires, amphetamines don't really fundamentally change a persons frame of mind apart from a boost of dopamine. Its not like coke or pills.

What the fuck? I thought they were little white pills (not capsules). I do like me those "orange footballs" adderall came in
Waaaaay easier to crush and shove up my nasal cavity.

I'm convinced Trump has a 'secret cocktail' of some old school tried and true shit. No way he has that much natural stamina at that age