Media "health experts" giving people mask advice

forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/02/29/no-you-do-not-need-face-masks-for-coronavirus-they-might-increase-your-infection-risk
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No, You Do Not Need Face Masks To Prevent Coronavirus—They Might Increase Your Infection Risk
EDITORS' PICK|Feb 29, 2020, 10:29pm EST
>That’s why many people have been buying up and stockpiling masks. But even if you could buy any in the midst of global shortages, should you?
No.
And if you already have masks, should you wear them when you’re out?
No.
Even if there are COVID cases in your community?
Even if there are cases next door, the answer is no, you do NOT need to get or wear any face masks—surgical masks, “N95 masks,” respirator masks, or anything else—to protect yourself against the coronavirus. Not only do you not need them, you shouldn’t wear them, according to infection prevention specialist Eli Perencevich, MD, a professor of medicine and epidemiology at the University of Iowa’s College of Medicine.
“The average healthy person does not need to have a mask, and they shouldn’t be wearing masks,” Dr. Perencevich said.
They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!

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/cvg/ predicted this

>jan29
/cvg/ and a lot of the internet was way ahead of this.

Repeat after me. Chinese Health Organization

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By Laura Geggel - Associate Editor a month ago
"Can wearing a face mask protect you from the new coronavirus?
No, a regular surgical mask will not help you steer clear of the virus."
>[On N95 Masks: Also No]
"That's because, in part, it's challenging to put on these masks and wear them for long periods of time"

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By Karen Iorio Adelson Mar 5, 2020, 9:00am EST
“I would not recommend somebody going out and getting a N95 mask because the value of using those masks is demonstrated when people are properly fit ... for most people they aren’t going to be effective, he says."

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March 11, 2020, 2:31 AM MDT
>Do masks prevent sickness?
>Bottom line: Wash your hands ... leave the masks to the health care workers.
>People wear medical masks on the AirTrain en route to John F. Kennedy Airport on Saturday, March 7, 2020, as concern over the new coronavirus grows in New York City.Spencer Platt / Getty Images
But then the surgeon general says to stop buying masks, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says healthy people shouldn't wear masks,
>and even former President Barack Obama says to leave the masks to the health care professionals. What gives?

U.S. Surgeon General

@Surgeon_General
Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!

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Nah son. Over here it's required by law to wear masks. Fuck (((experts)))

Most laynigger simpletons don’t know how to properly use a mask without inadvertently getting themselves infected anyway

I love the properly fitted meme. You literally just have to make sure the nose piece is bent correctly and that you have a full seal, which are both incredibly easy tasks.

If they're not effective why do doctors need them?

Masks do work, but noone has enough masks tp go around.
US used to have a sufficient stock of them, but they got used during bird flu and King Obongo didn’t make an order to restock the reserves.

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This is today:
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Instead, the recommendation under consideration calls for using do-it-yourself cloth coverings, according to a second official who shared that thinking on a personal Facebook account. It would be a way to help “flatten the curve,” the official noted.


HANG ON A SECOND...

>Some types of masks, however, can actually do more harm than good. A randomized study by a research group in Australia found that wearing cloth masks is not only ineffective, but may also increase the risk of contracting respiratory infections. These types of masks, “may absorb moisture and provide a breeding ground for bugs,” says Raina MacIntyre, an author of the study and a professor of Global Biosecurity at The University of New South Wales in Sydney.
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On short, don't wear a mask if you are not sick because it can increase the strain on your lungs, but do wear a mask if you have covid19 and are in the same house as your family. Also, buy a t-shirt to use as a mask, since flimsy surgical masks are totally ineffective, and really anything will help "flatten the curve" at this point.

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Surely the masks would be better used to stop bacterial transfer from the health worker to the patient - their intended use.

They are useless against a virus.

Going to go on a limb here: doctors directly deal with confirmed sick patients, most people do not. The main mechanism of transmission in the case of a doctor is via droplets containing the virus being sprayed on his face by a patient or when the virus is aerosolized and just hangs in the air (not sure if that's possible). In the case of your average Joe who exercises self-quarantine and distances himself away from people (as he should in any case), the main mechanism of transmission is by getting your hands dirty with the virus and then getting the virus from your hands into your orifices. Masks aren't going to help against that, but proper hygiene will.

So why was it "panic buying" and "not a threat to the US" even a month ago, and now it's "T-shirt with SPF-90+ required for essential travels, citizen" Am I supposed to take these f-ing clowns seriously?

The CDC says even a T-Shirt is useful against the virus. WTF are you even saying, bacterial transfer? Sounds like a problem for hospitals who will only see a small fraction of the cases from this permanently disfiguring disease.

You were supposed to fire up your brain. Remember, not even doctors know exactly what they're doing. You should listen to them, then form your own opinions.

They're not effective because the doctors need them.
If there was chronic oversupply of masks they'd never be shilling against them.
They hope to procure them all for themselves.
"Don't buy these cars", say the guys lining up to buy them.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING???? WEAR A FUCKING MASK JESUS CHRIST
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has almost never advised healthy people to wear masks in public to prevent influenza or other respiratory diseases. In the past few months, with medical supplies dangerously diminished, the CDC, US surgeon general Jerome Adams, and the World Health Organization have urged people not to buy masks, paradoxically claiming that masks are both essential for the safety of health care workers and incapable of protecting the public from Covid-19.
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Recently, some experts have disputed this contradictory advice. They propose that widespread use of masks is one of the many reasons why China, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have controlled outbreaks of coronavirus much more effectively than the US and Europe. “Of course masks work,” sociologist Zeynep Tufekci wrote in a New York Times editorial. “Their use has always been advised as part of the standard response to being around infected people.” Public health expert Shan Soe-Lin and epidemiologist Robert Hecht made a similar argument in the Boston Globe: “We need to change our perception that masks are only for sick people and that it’s weird or shameful to wear one … If more people donned masks it would become a social norm as well as a public health good.” Last week, George Gao, director-general of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said that America and Europe are making a "big mistake" by not telling the public to wear masks during the ongoing pandemic.
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This is all the same article. I think these people might be retarded.

>We want people to stay home
“I think it’s really important that people might not become complacent [if] they have a homemade mask on,” Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine said last week. "We want people to stay home.”

>Homemade masks are for healthy people
David Fleece, chief medical information officer at Temple University Hospital, told The Inquirer last week that, depending on the material, homemade masks "can approach the effectiveness of disposable surgical masks.”

>Homemade masks are for sick people
Flat surgical masks or DIY cotton masks aren’t necessarily to prevent the wearer from getting sick, he said, but about protecting others. The virus is transmitted through droplets of bodily fluids that can escape from the mouth and nose, so if someone who is infected is wearing a mask, “they’re much less likely to transmit infection.”

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>we don’t know if it’s aerosolised or not, but just wash your hands

This is the biggest load of hooker herpes I’ve ever read. The cold truth is any mask is better than no make it you’re going to be walking through a haze of ronas.
The only reason they publish shit like this is to prevent people from freaking out about not having a mask.
I promise you, if every person in the country had dozens of masks, the advice would be “wear your mask in public”.

Ummmm?

1. It looks fucking awkward to be wearing a mask in public
2. They don't decrease your risk of getting sick. They are for protecting other people if YOU are sick. It's irresponsible to telegraph to other people that you are sick, if you have no symptoms.
3. Wearing a mask just makes you look awkward (see #1). But it bears repeating.
4. They are BADLY NEEDED by trained medical professionals right now as part of their PPE. You are telling everyone "Look at me, I rob our healthcare workers and kick them when they are down". In short, you are a fucking asshole.

Shut the fuck up nigger, or have your throat slit for social media terrorism.

No need to use masks, they don’t keep you healthy.

Give them to medical staff to keep them healthy

I wear a mask in public. People give me a wide berth coz they think I’m sick.

Explain how people staying away from me is bad for my health.

I work in a market 40+ hours a week. If I hadn't stocked up on masks I'd have fucking quit.

Found out the next door neighbor was in L.A. 3 weeks ago and immediately got in the car and left without saying anything. Cunt better keep her 6 feet.

>Rosenbaum

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Disgusting to see this crisis being enjoyed so much by people who likely hate others and live a sad life anyway such as yourselves....

but when life goes back to normal I bet you will still be a miserable sack of shit while people who actually have a life will be sharing stories of helping eachother get through the crisis

so fuck off

>stop being such a miserable loser and let them coof in your mouth bigot.

People in this thread are literally typing threats of violence, and that’s what you have to say?

Vice journalist typing patterns

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This
>putting a surgical mask the wrong way gives a false sense of security and encourages brainlets to expose themselves
>putting/removing masks with contaminated hands spreads the virus in your face

Though the media lost all credibility once they started shilling that masks were useless so people wouldn't start hoarding them

>people here are ***literaly*** posting threats of violence.

user I ...

I'm so sick of rddit faggots coming here. Stay on your own shit site

>They don't decrease your risk of getting sick. They are for protecting other people if YOU are sick
>They are BADLY NEEDED by trained medical professionals right now as part of their PPE.

So all the medical professionals are sick?

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masks have been proven extremely effective in places like south korea and hong kong and macau.

The people in the full space invader hazmat gear are even more ill apparently.

Exactly, you don't even need top of the line gas masks or whatever (but sure, they are better).

Everybody in basic masks makes infection rates plummet because it covers all bases (sick/non sick/sick but don't know), there's no "stigma" as it's the rules now and it's really cheap.

The people against this are garbage humans.

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Where do you think you are? You have to go back retarded nignog

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It's very simple..

N95/99
Protects you from getting the virus, health care workers really are the only ones that need this the most.

Surgical Mask
Will not protect you from virus, but does significantly lower spreading of virus. If we had the mindset to all wear mask in public, then people would not be spreading it to the degree they are.

YOU SHOULD WEAR A FACE MASK, IF PEOPLE CAN NOT SHOW SYMPTOMS FOR UP TO 14 DAYS, YOU SHOULD WEAR A MASK. KEEPS EVERYONE SAFE.

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Why do these fucks think its impossible for people to learn proper PPE gear up/gear off decontamination techniques.

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Exactly
>"oh people might not put them on properly and have bad education!"

Then show them how, it's not fucking hard. We trust millions of people every day to drive cars at high speeds and nobody gives a fuck.

Masks are useless, microscopic airborne particles simply pass around the relative chasm between mask and face. Have someone spray deodorant into the air while wearing a mask and see what happens.

>health care workers really are the only ones that need this the most.
nope.

Ok, Doc.

Masks work but imagine if americans started hoarding masks like they hoarded toilet paper which wasn't even related to preventing the spread of the virus.
Soon there'd be no masks left, and healthcare workers started dropping like flies.

if we live through this we should class action lawsuit them for giving incorrect medical advice that lead to deaths cause thats what they did. these tv stations have so much blood on their hands you could blood sacrifice their entire production studios and wouldn't even be close to getting even

>nope
N95? Yes, you don't want them to get sick. That's not to say the most sickly people shouldn't be wearing them too.

>rosenbaum

(Rosenbaum)

>purchased my respirator and filters before they sold out

Hope you did aswell anons.

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You overestimate average American intelligence

Yep, journalism is dead. They just rehash press statements

get fucked anti-mask niggers
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Fuck, my vacuum cleaner operates without bags

2 dish towels akes 150% effectiveness.

>They don't decrease your risk of getting sick. They are for protecting other people if YOU are sick.

this statement does not compute.

Put dish towel in vacuum bag?

it makes it less likely for you to infect other people if you are ill

Hello glowie

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