Why is everyone in the world obsessed with considering themselves "Good persons"?

Who haven't you met that doesn't think of themselves as a good person? They never donate anything, they never do charity work, they only think about themselves and wouldn't dream of using the money for their burgers to buy a sandwich for a starving poor kid.

Yet somehow everyone is a good person? I dunno if in America you have that culture, but the amount of times I've heard in high school and college "You go to school to grow up as a person, to be good", I had a teacher who would talk to us about John Lenon and shit like that instead of teaching us math because "I prefer you all learn to be god people instead of learning math".

Being a good person demands personal sacrifice, you can't be good and keep everything for yourself, it might hurt having to give away your chocolate bar, but if you're not a selfish piece of shit, you do it.

How many people spend their entire day on the internet claiming to be a good person, against global change, etc but all the hours they spent on twitter, facebok, reddit, instagram, etc they could have used it to clean a beach, or the streets, etc. and choose not to? I guess it's easier and more fun to sit on a chair and get upvotes rather than actually fighting for what you believe and earning the "good person" title.

Why is everyone obsessed with being considered a good person when they are not?

I am a bad person, I laugh when old women fall down the stairs, I wouldn't dream of giving away my money even if it's a fucking dying baby who needs 1 dollar to survive. I mock the homeless and would buy a thousand bubblegums rather than donating even 1/100000 of that money to an orphanage.

I'm a bad bad boy and I accept it, why can't the rest of the world accept they are bad?

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Tldr. Fag.

BTW God knows who's good and bad, like Santa, and having this fantasy in your mind that you're good because you don't steal or murder (as if it's hard not to, and most people actually do steal, specially on the internet) won't stop God from sending y'all to hell.

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>I prefer you all learn to be god people instead of learning math
The absolute level of cuckery

That people love calling themselves good people, it's like an aspiration, yet nobody does good stuff, everyone is selfish, nobody does charity work or donate shit, everyone would rather buy more Coca cola rather than giving that money to the poor, or an orphanage, or to buy things for everyone. Why can't people accept they are evil, selfish and deserving of hell?

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IKR, everyone loved that teacher because he wouldn't teach us anything and would give everyone good grades but I hated him so much, when I passed to 4th grade in high school I didn't know ANYTHING because he refused to teach us the fucking basics.

I dunno if in other places people have this culture of "being a good person is what matters the most" but nobody is really good and being sad that john lenon died DOESN'T MAKE YOU A GOOD PERSON.

The poor person's cope seems to be "I might not have money but at least i have morals" when in poor neighbourhoods crime is sky high and everyone is hateful and violent.

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People have an urge to be religious without religion.

Those definitions are for the close-minded. Most people are incapable of judgement, therefore, they need formulaic knowledge regarding their standard operation. It's not bad, it means they're susceptible to all forms of subversion and deception but able to operate within limits.

But lots of religious people also think they are good persons and they are still selfish and pure pure evil, most people are worse than I, I fail at being evil all the time, I hate poor people in theory but I gave my doritos to a dirty black kid sleeping on the streets the other day.

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I didn't understand not even half of what you said

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>Superiority complex.
That's why.

I don't think I'm a good person. I know I am amoral and good only when it's advantageous to me.

Having a sense of worth is hardwired into our evolutionary psychology and we all live horrible alienated lives revolving around worthless jobs so everyone feels worthless and to compensate they become insufferable moralfags because they think it will make them feel more worthy

we had a similiar history teacher in hs so I had to study the lessons by myself to pass with a somewhat good results the hs finals in that subject
Yeah, that cope sounds like when ugly ppl say such things as “only thing that matters is that you should be a nice person” etc

See? You're honest with yourself. You don't say "oh well, i'm not raping women right now so I'm basically a saint!", you're not helping people, you're not doing anything good, thus, you're not good, and you don't need to lie! God bless you, hell, I would say you're a good person for at least being honest.

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I embrace my neutral alignment. In fact, this phenomenon that you speak of is a great weakness that you can use to manipulate and exploit people.

I guess that makes sense, but don't people realize what coping is? Don't they realize when they are doing it? It's like they lack self awareness, whenver I'm angry and say something I immediatly realize if i'm being biased, I mock myself all the time, specially in politics, is easy to fall down the rabbit hole and think "the other side are just plain evil", but they are not, and when I have that thought I immediately laugh because of how stupid it is not to realize the evil one could be yourself.}

2020 and people still can't understand themselves, will never understand how people go through identity crisis of "I don't know myself" when they have 0 self awareness.

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The worst part is that people believe having good intentions is all that’s needed. I try to point out that even terrorists think they have good intentions, it’s no measure of how good you actually are and it’s no guide to doing the right thing.

The simple answer is it’s easy to believe you’re a good person and difficult to address that you don’t know, or you might not be perfect.

Everyone is so egotistical today. I have Facebook friends who didn’t even go to school, were raised like gypsies, but my God do they know exactly what’s wrong with our extremely complex economy and society, they know how to fix it (good thoughts!) and they believe they have a duty to tear it down. Can’t seem to imagine for a second that others might not want uneducated hippies to tear down their society. They’re good people, how can they do wrong?

Hubris and arrogance in your virtue is the fastest way to do and be evil.

>“only thing that matters is that you should be a nice person”

We should kill everyone who copes, they are fucking everywhere and only make society worse. I'll grab the forks.

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>good people
Lrn to total depravity, bitch niggas

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Did you render every frame of the little mermaid movie into 1920x1080 jpgs?

Are there any nipple frames in the little mermaid?

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As easy as downloading the movie, open MSI Afterburner and press F10 every milisecond Ariel is on screen. I wanted to watch it again today, haven't watched it in like 2 weeks, but I got busy discussing morals with poltards.

This.
There is *something* in the human mind that religion occupies and if there isn't something there, then one way or another the vacuum has to be filled.

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No but she doesn't wear pants thus in this scene you could in theory see her vagina. Always thought it was bold of Disney to feature her basically naked and have her vagina covered by fish, bubbles, water, etc like in the Simpsons movie when Bart is naked.

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I tell people that I’m trying to be a good Muslim all the time. Joke’s on them, I’m not even Muslim. I just want to marry 4 virgins and throw them away when I turn them to roasties.

See? Evil at heart and you know it, my man!

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Just women and Jews trying to guilt you into giving up your resources.

>mfw

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Helping the less fortunate is what good people do, I can guarantee you, women would rather buy make up or shoes rather than helping the poor, and jews wouldn't spend a penny on the poor.

I know for a toddler the thought of giving away is bad! after all, you lose your toys! But selfless people don't care about that so long as they make others happy and help. You're evil.

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Sexual selection is the only true metaphysical force. Women want men who will be good fathers, and men want men who will be good mothers. That's why you have such a horrible, ugly feeling about yourself being a bad person despite not wanting to admit it.

That, or you are the product of rape.

>and men want men

Heh.

Your point aside, you unironically think the only thing that matters in this world is having a trad wife and being a 1950 man? And that everyone who accepts they are not good people (because being good is like... so unrelated to having a wife I can't even wonder why you even mentioned the topic) is because they don't want to fill those roles or were a rape baby?

Ugh, I've seen stronger bait on the beginning on the little mermaid when fishermen are fishing.

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You're reacting to my post emotionally because it made you feel something. What is it that you are feeling, exactly?

To be more direct, would you rather have a woman raising your child that steps on baby animals, or one that doesn't.

>Why is everyone in the world obsessed with considering themselves "Good persons"?
Low self-esteem.

t. Kaczynski

Urugay.... Coca cola costs like $1 which I make in like 15 seconds during any normal workday

I would rather have a husband because i'm gay, and I don't see your point. You should have a wife that doesn't murder because that's... better? So? How is that relevant for the topic? You're not good for not killing animals wtf, Hitler didn't kill animals.

It feels like you just want attention so you talk shit about topics you know nothing about, you should be quiet instead of talking about "getting a trad wife" in a "why people lie about being good" thread.

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Truly? That's cool, here Coca Cola is super expensive and you could buy like 3 packs of rice instead of one bottle, and those 3 packs of rice will let you eat for more than a week.

Still, you could donate that $1 instead of spending it on yourself, don't you think? But nah, it's better being selfish and evil, who cares about others amirite?

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We're all sinners that need to repent. There is no one that does good, no not one.

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First there was the collapse of civilization: anarchy, genocide, starvation. Then when it seemed things couldn't get any worse, we got the plague. The Living Death, quickly closing its fist over the entire planet. Then we heard the rumors: that the last scientists were working on a cure that would end the plague and restore the world. Restore it? Why? I like the death! I like the misery! I like this world!

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>Who haven't you met that doesn't think of themselves as a good person?
>Why is everyone obsessed with being considered a good person when they are not?
It is a prevailing opinion because movies, television and stories tout the virtue of being "good persons". As a group evolutionary strategy cooperation and unity only works if a vast majority are cooperating. A small group of coordinated agents with malicious intent can always outwit an uncoordinated group of altruists. See for example modern western society.

>I'm a bad bad boy and I accept it, why can't the rest of the world accept they are bad?
Brainlet conclusion. Most people are not moral or immoral so much as they are AMORAL. Ascribing attributes to them such as good or bad is about as useful as ascribing morality to the actions of a feral ape.

Most people are simply ruled by their emotions, immediate needs, and past experiences. There is no higher reasoning or dedication to some abstract ideal that factors into their decision making. If pressed most people can use mental gymnastics to justify what they do regardless of their profess morality system anyway.

>t. PhD in neuropsychology

pic related; relevant reading material if you wish to pursue this topic further.

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I was writing a reply, but then I realized that you are gigantically retarded and autistic.

In any society, successfully appearing to be something is just as good as actually being that thing, and modern society makes it easy to appear to be something. Sure, anyone who actually knows you can tell you're full of shit, but your other 17000 Facebook "friends" only see your empty virtue signaling and have no reason to assume you're a shithead who drives really slow in the fast lane.

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But how can people live with themselves denying what they are? How does it help if everyone thinks you're good but you're not? Denying reality NEVER worked well for anyone, not even for Alice in Wonderland.

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They don't understand that morality and social order is set by religion. They have guilt and feel less than people who have God.

thanks

>But how can people live with themselves denying what they are?
There is no true self the person you think you are will never match up with the person other people think you are. Others can only judge you by your words and actions. You can judge yourself by your own internal reasoning, self image, and past experiences.

>How does it help if everyone thinks you're good but you're not?
Not everything is part of some grand manipulated scheme designed to either help or hurt people. Oftentimes trends are self organizing and organically occurring.

>Denying reality NEVER worked well for anyone, not even for Alice in Wonderland.
Denying reality is a coping mechanism and one of the important glues that keeps things held together. Because facing your problems and dealing with them is hard, self improvement takes effort, and some of the worlds issues will always be outside your ability to influence them. Denying reality helps the hopeless masses cope with their own irrelevance. Cite for example Q Boomers.

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Exactly. They do not follow the undeniable truth of the one true God. The White Christian European God. Not one of those fake moon daemons that the rag-heads bow to.

DEUS VULT!

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People think that simply holding the opinions that they do makes them good people because those opinions are mainstream politically correct inclusive bullshit. People who don't think (and vote) the way they do are bad people. Simple as that. Actions have zero impact on ones status as a good or bad person. One could rob and steal but as long as they support faggot butt sex and only steal from white people, they are good people who are just going through a tough time.
Someone who volunteers at their local food bank and homeless shelter, gives money to bums and charities, goes to church every week and doesnt believe people should be able to have abortions or faggots should marry is a bad person.
Remember, the ones who constantly put emphasis on "being a good person" usually have no sense of community, dont actually care about being a good person, and are just looking for validation from strangers to fill the hole in their souls.

>I am a bad person, I laugh when old women fall down the stairs, I wouldn't dream of giving away my money even if it's a fucking dying baby who needs 1 dollar to survive. I mock the homeless and would buy a thousand bubblegums rather than donating even 1/100000 of that money to an orphanage.
>I'm a bad bad boy and I accept it, why can't the rest of the world accept they are bad?
I agree that many people are obsessed with the notion that they’re good people and they want everyone else to think they are, but you strike me as being just as obsessed with the opposite. You’re desperate for people to think of you as the “bad boy” but really you’re just kind of a fag desu

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>a thousand bubblegums
Why do you losers consent to have your own perspective beaten out of you instead of having the guts to stand up for your real perspectives?

A thousand bubblegums is just not authentically hardass. It's like a loser stalker referencing NationStates issue #689 in conjunction with issue #638. People do such dreck as that; unfortunately, some are still too loyalistic to betray sexual abusers.

Speaking of #638, it puts a serious compassion hit on the demographer, which is ridiculous. It isn't compassionate to have babies forever, it's compassionate to raise the value of life by investing more perfectionistically. Hypergamy is an ethical imperative that natalists reverse.

This guy gets it. Only through receipt of the Holy spirit through accepting Christ's sacrifice on the cross as payment for our sins can we do any good-being as Christ wants us to be.

Cringe

Because social media is all about optics and looking good. If you're an asshole you won't get as many likes or retweets or shares or whatever. It's why everyone who overcompensates on trying to look good ends up being a bad person too. Because an actual good person doesn't need to flaunt it.

I have to admit, i'm not as bad as I tell everyone I am. But it's easier being bad since it requires doing nothing, just, not caring. And i'd be lying if i said i think of kids dying in africa or i care when i hear about a woman being raped and killed (i actually get happy when i hear that)

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You need to be good for ppl to follow you en masse. Idk, why that works, but noone wants to follow a bad guy. On the other hand, if you convinced ppl you were good, they would smother babies in your name.

Thats why you tell ppl you are good even if you arent. Ive seen some genuinely good ppl, and they are pathetic. Such easy prey.
One married down to a migrant, cos had lady problems. Another one is financially supporting her dying scumbag of an ex-husband, who remembered about her existence after getting diagnosed.

However, the definition of good has been sliding down over the years. Decades of anti-heroes in pop-culture stories make ppl sympathize with Joker, Walter White, Tyler Durden etc and consider them good.

Another mystery is why ppl feel the urge to be happy. Millenia of ppl keeping it real, and now there are millions of adults with a childish setting to be happy in a happy world. Mb, thats their idea of being good.
Still, personal happiness is a selfish and defeatist option at the same time. You gotta sacrifice so much to be happy it is strange so many ppl wish it.
Happiness is a resource, just lik money, which is no use if you dont spend it.

because if a person fancies themselves good then they can shrug off reproach and blame and feel superior to others
most people don't consciously think of themselves in terms of good or bad, though most people when pressed will not consider themselves bad and will bear ill-will toward others who would treat them as if they were

you might be a shameless prick who is so self-absorbed that you'll do whatever you expect will result in you feeling good so long as the cost isn't too high, but it's highly unlikely that you feel no moral outrage when people treat YOU poorly

>Thats why you tell ppl you are good even if you arent. Ive seen some genuinely good ppl, and they are pathetic. Such easy prey.
imagine living in Russia
what a mafia-run hellhole does to people

I agree with some of that. It’s not like I’m crying or even giving a shit that kids are dying in Africa every day. I’m sure everyone here feels the same but most anons don’t go out of their own way to make sure everyone knows that. As for women being raped and killed, I do care about that especially if those women are my people, that’s fucking nigger behavior and should be absolutely unacceptable to the White man.