unironically believing in communism now. >respirators for industrial use are $30 all year long >have one for doing real shit >cant get filters now because of scalpers >cant do real shit, whole industries are crippled because no fucking respirators >filters sold out everywhere >fucking scalpers selling $20 respirator for $80 on ebay capitalism was a joke and its unchecked bullshit is what killed america. People talk about "the great filter" that weeds out species on an intergalactic scale and is the defining factor in who gets called a "type 3 civilization", well this kind of bullshit is the "great filter" that defines what empires make it past the 300 year mark. Its historical fact that nations only last on average of 300 years. America is 244, right in the ballpart for the 300 year AVERAGE mark. We are fucking done boys, and it was capitalism that killed us.
someone post the gook with a cart stacked to the roof with respirators
>>fucking scalpers selling $20 respirator for $80 on ebay This will incentivise people to make more of them, thus bringing down the price. That is how prices and markets work dumbass.
Jackson Hernandez
Im talking about a reusable mask with a proprietary filter. copyrights and patents prevent the production of filters by unloicensed third parties.
Josiah Perry
But if the maker of the masks is selling out then that signals them to increase production.
Michael Williams
patents and license represent the opposite of unchecked capitalism. Otherwise would be right.
Julian Cox
>waaaaaah a dictator can't instantly make things change to suit me >this is capitalism's fault! I highly doubt someone so effeminate would work in a trade that required a respirator.
Jack Brown
>muh invisible hand What pisses me off is that when the invisible hand sends you to the unemployment line you're going to take a handout and act like it doesn't go 100000% contrary to your libertardian bullshit.
They would be that cheap here too if there wasn't any regulation on their production, just like in China. If any technology doesn't continually go down in price thats ALWAYS because of Government regulation. Thats why home computers, 1000's of time more complex than most hospital machinery are way way cheaper and so affordable, everyone can afford one.
Sebastian Cook
letting jews buy up all supply to resell it at an infinitely higher markup and allowing gooks to buy up all of the inventory to send back to mainland bughive is not what a healthy society allows to happen. Youre the weak faggot that is ok letting an invasion of parasitic scum steal everything you need to survive the bioweapon they genetically engineered to wipe you out. You are the ultimate cuckold, and its pathetic.
Carter Kelly
Typical feelgood fantasies from another shit for brains leaf.
Connor Reyes
scalpers are jewish niggers and chinkbugmen but in communism the government would be hoarding all the masks to good goys only. dumbass
Angel Robinson
Get a 3m airhood with a papper, its like 1200$ but its rechargeable
Jordan Rogers
We need to firebomb their warehouses the united states government should drop napalm and white phosphorous from the skies day and night over china
Jace Green
Do any experament. Goto Ebay right now and try and buy ANY used peace of medical equipment. Look for even the simplist cheapest machines like those portable ultrasounds that are on a little cart with a laptop. You cannot buy ANY of it, at all. They are not allowed to sell them used. They have to throw them away or sell em overseas because you are not allowed to have your own home ultrasound. How would they get to charge you 1000's of dollars if you just whipped out the laptop and plugged a $100 wand into it and saw your arm was broke, or your child was a boy?
Why are there not credit card operated MRI at Walmart. you just go in and lay down, and for an extra $50 it will send the results to a real doctor?
Ever ask yourself why these simple machines, been around decades are not for sale at any store for you to own?
Sebastian Hughes
OH but I thought that the pandemic in China was over.
>Stop hoarding broh
Carter Jackson
if thats how it works, why are there laws against gauging? wouldnt gauging be the a fundamental mechanic of the infallible system of capitalism?
Robert Wilson
China nationalized 3m in China. They couldn't give one fuck about supplying western nations atm, regardless of demand.
They'll protect themselves first, and maybe when it's convenient for them in the future. They'll sell us their leftovers for dollars on the penny.
and we'll say thank for saving us from the monster you created.
Or... Trump might have already saved the western world by fast tracking Hydroxychloroquine treatments. I'm optomistic considering the huge drop in deaths in the US today.
Liar. You never doubted Marx ever. You don't even know what capitalism is. Nothing about this situation has changed your NPC mind. You're just lazy and hate responsibility.
Hudson Perry
>Just build your gasmask factory
Adrian Murphy
You have it right on the canonical model of supply and demand, invented during a time period enjoying a gold standard, real money hardness.
Now fast forward to infinite money printing in secret, every action bound in red tape written by the monopolists, supported by short sighted social policy parroted by media pundits funded by said monopolists
Now do you see why this guy isn't a dumbass? the only thing he gets wrong is calling it capitalism, there is no such thing as a free market when interest rates, the cost of capital, the fountain of all price determination, is arbitrarily set by said monopolists.
Now, get out model building and into the world of engineering, ideas need implementation
Alexander Reyes
It's bad enough with people googling symptoms on webmd. Imagine questioning every spot or blur on an image and demanding to know about their cancer that they dont have.
Owen Hughes
Get a 3D printed adapter so you can use other brands.
>Why are there not credit card operated MRI at Walmart. There actually are lol, you haven't heard about the Walmart hospitals?
Jaxon Young
>This will incentivise people to make more of them It’s over capitalist boi From now on, prepare to be saved by the COMMVNIST BVLL without whom you’re not able to live anymore
>only thing he gets wrong is calling it capitalism >t-t-that's not real capitalism Lamo
Juan Davis
Yes, gauging has to be allowed for the Free Market to provide like promised.
Case in point, you cannot find toilet paper anywhere right? All the hoarders bought it up, only to sell at inflated profits. Lets say double, or triple. So instead of a 4 pack going for $5, it goes for $15. Totally plausible, and exactly what happened. Right?
The Free Market provided you product. Not for $5, but for $15. You wold have still been able to buy it, just more because the demand is higher now making it worth more.
But, in your world of a NON-Free market where the government steps in to make it FAIR. I cannot gauge you so you don't get any toilet paper at all.
So instead of you having the toilet paper for $15 which you would have paid, you have none. The free market DIDNT provide thanks to government interference.
You got what you wanted and deserve. A Socialist economy where there are toilet paper shortages, because people cannot charge more, because its illegal, so EVERYONE, including you go without. Somehow thought the people on top seem to never go without, no matter what market they live under.
The Socialist believes that to be a better outcome. And that's the difference in a nutshell.
This is a perfect example of why capitalism is great though. The price of the respirators goes up with the demand. The end result is that the respirators are only going to be purchases by those who need them the MOST.
It is the best way to deal with a shortage. Under communism, if there was a shortage you wouldn’t have any way of getting one at all.
Also shortages are so much more common under communism. It’s completely normal to run out of shit when you have a centrally planned economy. It takes more extreme circumstances for this to happen in capitalist countries.
Brody Bennett
Maybe OP isn't effeminate. Maybe he is just retarded enough to have to work some fucking beaner-tier hazardous job that requires a mask not to die, and therefore gets all enffatuated with muh gommunism (the ultimate Jewish trick) when his stupid mask gets more expensive.
Or maybe he's just a shill who thinks he's smart becaue he came up with a cool-story-bro to shill his bullshit meme ideology.
So, op is an inflammatory tard and it’s not capitalism but an authoritarian dictatorship to blame?
Jason Wright
I would livestream workers in hazmats testing each peace for the virus, among other things. Fuck China. I would consider everything coming out of there a biohazard.
Josiah Perez
>The end result is that the respirators are only going to be purchases by those who need them the MOST. Kike scalpers?
>Capitalism falters during a global pandemic due to outsourcing manufacturing jobs >HAHA SEE ITS WORSE THAN STALIN OR MAO ARE YOU READY FOR COMMUNISM YET?
I’m not a libertarian but I don’t think that’s hypocritical. They believe everyone should pursue their relational self-interest, that sound like rational self interest to me.
if I recall correctly this is an image from an article featuring a man who bought up all this shit and couldn't find buyers (because he was price gouging). He will be forced to lower his price until buyers present themselves. Almost like magic. Almost like... an invisible hand.
Sebastian Diaz
Yes shortages are guaranteed under any system that has control or interference from government. ALL governments with centrally controlled economies experience shortages all the time of the most common items first, like toilet paper. There has never been any exception to this rule anywhere on the planet. Its mathematically impossible. This much I know to be a fact.
Nicholas Martinez
>he doesn't have a 3D printer to get around the proprietary Jew This is your own fault tbhfam
Alexander Brown
The scalpers are just a middle man. But they play an important role in getting the price to reflect the supply shortage.
One problem we have is that we don’t let the companies that sell them do the scalping so we have to add this middle man which ultimately makes it take longer for people to purchase them.
Jordan Mitchell
Im just not ready to switch to a system that has failed every time its ever been put in practice or one thats biggest export is the murder of innocence just because the american supply chain wasn't ready for the China flu >But China said... Everything out of China is a lie and even if we take it at face value its not a strong enough argument to start killing people
Cameron Howard
Explain the diamond market
Justin Hughes
The Chinese bought them all
Zachary Stewart
And the state government and up seizing all the kikes stuff. That's the one thing I'll give the lolbergs the states are typically handling things way better then Blumpf
So kike scalpers. Got it
Juan Perry
You know the thing trump said about masks disappearing in nyc hospitals? It's true because there are a lot of scalpers who are selling n95's non retail / hospital use ones for $10 a pop in nyc. $150 for 20.
Joshua Jackson
r-r-r-real capitalism has n-n-never been tried
Jackson Ortiz
Only in theory. People have been sold out and unable to find masks/respirators for MONTHS now, and still nothing. And now it's not until the government starts directly asking/commanding companies to switch their production lines to masks that we're even anywhere close to seeing a proper supply increase.
Dominic Barnes
>imagine worrying that you need gask mask all the time
Don’t be proud mutt boi You need help and the COMMVNIST BVLL is here to save you Accept the help, because it won’t be the first time you totally rely on foreign aid
Ryan James
Those are blood pressure cuffs. They're not made for you to stick your head in them, user.
Adam Jenkins
Has nothing to do with economics. Economic system doesnt matter. People communities nature and society do. These are the foundations of a successful long term sustaining country.
Say what you want about russia and china, but at least they value certain conservative and family values that have been long lost in the west.
Carson Cruz
Lol it's not a failure when you have Trump throwing a temper tantrum that GM doesn't make ventilators?
Alexander Cruz
Really? They just had 10 million masks ready to go when they did their first lockdown? I find that hard to believe.
Anthony Garcia
libertardians aren't against sapping the state of funds, and in fact, encourage it. if a system is cheating you, you'd be foolish to only allow others to reap the benefits.
Lincoln Scott
You can’t lash out like this every time your mom undercooks your tendies
Ryder Mitchell
China literally welds the infected into their home and leaves them to die.
Brody Martinez
I know absolutely nothing about the diamond market but from what I have seen in movies, governments are very very involved in it, hence all the men with guns, trade restrictions in blood diamonds and such. Sounds like allot of its a black market, and thats also from regulation.
Nathaniel Jenkins
No I'm talking about the health care facilities Walmart has started recently
Cameron King
What an absolute faggot. Are you sure you aren't OP samefagging?
Im talking about flux core welding, and the filters arnt just more expensive, they are sold out everywhere.
Nolan Collins
no we should be advocating for the disolvement of the fucking FBI because in jan and feb probably even as early as december fucking ccp agents controlled by ccp buisinesses cleaned out all the masks and hand sani etc etc where the fuck were they when this shit started getting shipped to china? are they even trying to track these people down? if they are willing to go buy masks what else will they do for the chicoms?
Ultrasound has legit industrial uses outside of medical.
Isaiah Bennett
>>fucking scalpers selling $20 respirator for $80 on ebay
how do you solve the problem of scarcity? high prices is an incentive for new investors communism "solves" scarcity keeping the prices low and sorting intended buying from a list. But that doesn't solve anything as more respirators need to be made, and someone needs to put effort in producing them. prices are just signals for supply and demand, without these signals you're blind.
John Bailey
And that works a hell of a lot better then social distancing, self quarantining and manditory (but not really) shelter in place orders
Aiden Cox
*rubbing my penis in virgin olive oil* Your move Mr. policeman
Julian Baker
>But orange man bad! And you lost me.
Adrian Gonzalez
The debeers monopoly is such an anomaly.
But I do agree the government should be able to break up obvious oppressive monopolies and the like.
Cameron White
>NOOOO ONLY AMAZON AND COSTCO ARE ALLOWED TO SELL THINGS. ANYONE ELSE IS A KIKE SCALPER! THINK OF THE BILLIONAIREINOS.
Christopher Miller
Well they are shipping masks to nations all over the world including capitalist USA so they must not be hurting for them
Dylan Bell
Read the OP again, retard. He has a respirator, but the filter carts have to be changed out when you actually use the respirator instead of just posing for pictures with it and using it for your weekly run to the liquor store and gamestop.