The cat is out of the bag, stupid right-wingers.
The cat is out of the bag, stupid right-wingers
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>enough to live on
where are all of these supposed workers dying in the streets? What I see is a bunch of poseurs LARPing as Oliver.
>this is NOT enough to live on!!!
>continues living
hmmm...
To live on decently. Do you want to live in a society with a large underclass of people scraping just by? With large amounts of hookers and druggies living in the streets? This is the future you are choosing by voting republican
>decency
Such an ambiguous, ever-shifting word. Now I know why communists like it. Your idea of a decent life is far different from someone living 100 years ago. This is why I reject this false notion of relative poverty that has been substituted in place of absolute poverty once the communists lost the argument. Everyone will always want more than they have, but there's nothing decent about granting everyone their wishes at the expense of everyone else. In fact, such a concept is nonsense because it makes a slave out of man in the name of his liberation. When you eat the rich, you become the rich - and then are yourself eaten... ad infinitum. Very silly ideology you've discovered.
You’re telling me a home and having food on the table is a modern luxury, something our ancestors didn’t have? And you are saying you ”won the argument”? I mean really you are being a deluded bootlicker right now
just let these uppity cunts starve to death. if they chimp out shoot machine guns at them until they die
>"Wages should be higher!"
>*Continues flooding the country with surplus Mexican labour*
I mean.... It's not like I expected socialists to understand the fundamental economic principals of supply and demand....
>My corporate overlord isn't giving me enough money to put food on the table
Said the fat ass diabetic. These are all nonsense arguments.
>m-muh bootlicker
As if you commies don't want people licking your boots when you score a temporary victory in your gay little Damoclesian game.
>To live on decently. Do you want to live in a society with a large underclass of people scraping just by?
Kek. If they want to be trash they can live like trash. Every one of them has been given a free taxpayer paid $100,000 education and they pissed it away.
>With large amounts of hookers and druggies living in the streets?
>This is the future you are choosing by voting republican
it is a verifiable fact that voting for libshits causes more hookers and druggies living on the streets. Look what's happening to your shithole country because you keep voting for leftists.
Republican policies actually gets rid of them instead of giving them a big welfare check which they will just spend on..... drugs and hookers.
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as if anyone at all wants to serve under someone who murdered and robbed their way into the position.
Commies getting BTFO.
How is it verifiable that left creates more of that? The right supports the top of the pyramid, while the left supports the bottom of the pyramid. Both take a little attention and wealth from the other. So the left bssically wants to take money from the rich and give it to the poor. I dont deny this, its not a perfect solution but its a little remedy against capitalism and widespread surplus value extraction
Boot lickers eternally btfo.
Money makes good toilet paper.
$20/hour and health benefits for fast food workers now goddamnit!
>inb4 retards think i'm joking
the ceo makes like a bagillion dollars he can give everyone health benefits
if we have large amounts of hookers and druggies it's because we imported them from the third world. also many states have their own minimums higher than the federal minimum, achmed
More like $30 an hour. Food workers are now classified as critical infrastructure. They work harder than most of us, and have a greater risk of exposure. We're gonna see a paradigm shift in power where the blue collar working class and the unions the represent are going to begin buying houses and new cars again. We tear down the greedy rich and the world becomes a better place for everyone.
Fucking scumbag asshole filthshit bitch faggot loser nigger Trump and his weak cunt slut whore base can eat dicks.
What about all the trailer parks were people live. Or have you deluded yourself that this is the future they chose and want for their family?
>white people are more virtuous than blacks and never do anything bad like drugs
user, I...
FUCK AMAZON
kill yourself shill rat
Why blame this on the right when the left has literally assassinated every attempt to fix the problem?
Food workers who work for local restaurants/supermarkets will just get laid off because the businesses will close and the ones who work for big corporations will get replaced by robots quicker than they are now or get laid off as their profit margin makes it no longer worth it.
It paid about 20 billion in local, state, and global taxes last year. It paid no FEDERAL taxes because of tax breaks. It puts billions into R&D and other areas. I'm so sick of you dumb faggots just parroting arguments having no fucking idea what you're taking about.
how does he think Amazon got so rich?
>You’re telling me a home and having food on the table is a modern luxury,
Post a picture of the home you built in the old country, Muhammed.
Minimum wage is a minimum wage, not an average wage. It was implemented to stop ex cons and immigrants from becoming indentured servants, not as a benchmark for lazy dumb fuckheads to flourish.
It's meant to make you work harder to get more.
Welfare/EI is much the same. These measures to increase its value to help actual contributing members of society continue to stay at home and not endanger the greater population is temporary and should be understood as that or else the niggers will want 3k per month after tax for doing fuck all while I work 10 hrs a day and get taxed to fuck to support their stupid fucking lazy asses.
This is not a matter that is up for discussion.
I once Ordered something off amazon and it showed up 4 hours later. That’s how amazon got so rich.
>the blue collar working class
What do you do for work? Post pictures of your work boots with timestamp.
Every day the idiocy of the left wing astounds me.
Let's ignore the social and economic implications of financially incentivizing NOT working over working, and just look at the argument made.
He's implying that:
>1. The government should impose a minimum wage
>2. The minimum wage should be sufficient to live
This assumes that:
>1. People would be unable to achieve a higher wage without government assistance
>2. People are actually trying to live on minimum wage
If we tear apart both arguments, his implications fall apart, and therefore his sentence becomes nonsensical. So let's start with the first one.
>The cat is out of the bag, stupid right-wingers.
Last I seen right wingers where not voting for open borders.
Image related you swedish faggot.
I don't quite understand this. A 40 hour work week on minimum wage is $300. An entire month (~4 weeks) of that would make you $1,200. The government is only giving out $1,000 a month, is it not?
So how does $1,000 turn out to be greater than $1,200?
1. If minimum wage were equal to "wage" then EVERYONE would make minimum wage. The fact that ANYONE makes over minimum wage proves that it's possible to make more. But let's take it a step further. Let's assume the minimum wage were lowered to a quarter per hour, but without any changes to monetary policy (ie - things cost the same). Now a grocery store says they want cashiers and they're willing to pay a quarter per hour. Would anyone take that job? No, they wouldn't! They'd scoff at the managers and look for a job elsewhere. The fact that people are working minimum wage means there are people WILLING to work for that wage. If you're willing to work for a certain wage, and a company is willing and able to pay that wage, then why is the government (a third party who is neither the employer nor the employee) allowed to step in and say "NOPE, even though you're both happy with this deal, I won't allow it to take place"?
2. MOST minimum wage employees are under 18. They are children living with their parents. They aren't trying to pay their bills. Most people demanding a $15 an hour minimum wage are people already making $11-13 an hour who just want a raise. They aren't considering the fact that they're making $7-8 an hour people unemployable. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only 542,000 people (out of 80.2 million hourly workers or out of 150 million total workers) make minimum wage. That's 0.675% of hourly workers, or 0.361% of all workers, or 0.164% of all Americans (including retired and too young to work). Among people over 18 making minimum wage, almost all of them are in multi-earner households. I've never met a single person IN MY LIFE who was "trying to live on minimum wage". Minimum wage is an entry-level wage paid to people getting their first job. It's not a lifetime wage meant to support a family
So both assumptions are false (people CAN make more without raising minimum wage, and NO ONE is trying to live on minimum wage), meaning both implications are nonsense (the government doesn't need to raise minimum wage in order to raise workers' wages, and the minimum wage doesn't need to be higher for people to live)
And if both assumptions are false, then both implications are nonsense (the government SHOULDN'T raise minimum wage and minimum wage SHOULDN'T be enough to live)
And all of that blew apart his argument WITHOUT discussing the negative repercussions of paying people not to work. You know that toilet paper shortage everyone is afraid of? Guess what happens if all toilet paper makers got paid to NOT make toilet paper? You know how people are worried we'll run out of food? Guess what happens if all farmers got paid to NOT make food?
Money is worthless if there isn't stuff to buy. No matter how many trillions of dollars you had, 100 years ago you couldn't have bought a TV, refrigerator, microwave, stove, cellphone, computer, etc. Therefore giving people money is worthless if there isn't stuff to buy. And where does stuff to buy come from? From people WORKING to make it.
How hard of a concept is this? I mean, jesus fucking christ...
I think what a lot of people are forgetting is that a lot of employers uses Minimum wage as their pay scale for setting up the value of work
>Your wage is 30 dollars because you have a bachelors which means basically x2 the min wage
To say that minimum wage only affects convicts and immigrants is disingenuous
>It paid about 20 billion in local, state, and global taxes last year.
Wrong.
The employees paid 20 billion in local state taxes not amazon. The deal the state made with amazon to have its location in that state is that amazon would not pay taxes but would higher a certain amount of employees and have them work a certain amount of hours to make up the taxes.
This was done under the guise of "bringing employment to the state".
You have some of your facts correct but some have been omitted from your knowledge base. Likely you were not informed of all the facts, only the ones that made amazon look good.
I mean if you are flipping patties at McDonalds you don’t deserve to live a luxurious lifestyle and even more so if you are just sitting your ass all day in quarantine.
>just let these uppity cunts starve to death. if they chimp out shoot machine guns at them until they die
Taking the white genocide into your one hands, I see.
>work 12 a day for a min of 24 days
>deal with traffic
>crowds
>shitty people
>get 1200
from that money, remove:
>traveling expenses to go to work
>bills etc or stuff you need for going to work
>food bought from a stall or whatever if you're not packing from home
>stay at home and do what you want
>get 1000
This site is for 18+ only
pls go away
Time to raise wages
fuck off bad to t_d nigger
It's not Trumpbux that exceed working income. It's unemployment. Which is paid on a weekly basis, not a monthly basis.
really makes me mull
You can't be this stupid, so it must be a troll.
Stealing from rich white people and giving that money to subsidize the poor's drug culture and prostitution culture is not a solution to anything.
Look at california. They want/have made it a slap on the wrist for females who get caught engaging in prostitution, they perpetually want to lower drug offenses to misdemeanors, their policies attract homelessness and illegals. It's a verifiable fact leftist policies create more homeless drug users and prostitutes.
> I dont deny this, its not a perfect solution but its a little remedy against capitalism and widespread surplus value extraction
implementing socialism has never worked in history. The only reason it never has sent the host country straight to hell in a hand basket "instantly" is because capitalist mechanisms were still in place to prevent socialism from completing it's naturally destructive cycle too quickly.
amazing to see so many mutts defending outright kikery.
it's almost like they believe that one day they'll be (((billionaires)))
He said 40 hour work week. Almost nobody works 12 hours a day for 24 days moron.
So Amazon employees are taxed just like every other employee at any other job? I'm not white-knighting for Amazon, but can you explain exactly what you mean by your post?
>t. brainlet faggot
you do realize its been like 2 fucking weeks here in the US. give this another 2 months of most the country not working and car loan, mortgage and credit card defaults will go through the fucking roof.
i agree completely. in fact, MOST jobs should pay minimum wage. everyone should feel the pinch and be motivated to work harder and improve themselves.
You know, kids are alright but they should get the shit beaten by their parents when they are being retarded.
He called you out on being a shill and a liar don't play dumb.
I'd be willing to bet you have Amazon prime
You're still going to have to pay bills and buy essentials with Trumpbux. The main difference is that you're going to be dealing with less money than if you were to work a full 40 hour week. On top of that, the money you're going to be getting from the government is time limited. You still need to have a job set up by the time this blows over, whenever that may be. Additionally, I don't recall a stipulation that you wouldn't get Trumpbux if you were still working. If that's the case, then you're screwing yourself out of money you could be making and saving for the future.
Did you honestly think this through before you replied?
Ah, I think I understand now. The benefits with unemployment stacked with Trumpbux outweights the benefits of minimum wage stacked with Trumpbux?
Your parents should have beaten you for not being able to read or count then.
The min wage meme is retarded since it's a federal min and works fine for states with low cost of living in the South where you can rent an apartment for like 400 bucks and split that with a roommate
Places like NYC have plenty of warehouse jobs making 15-17/hr, it's no one's fault you thought moving to NYC to shuffle boxes for double min wage was a good idea.
>rent an apartment for like 400 bucks in the South
More like a one room efficiency, if you’re lucky enough to find a roach nest going for that cheap.
Fast food workers are not working class. Working class implies there's a degree of skill, such as construction workers being decent at carpentry or wiring. Slapping some cheese on a fresh never frozen patty isn't skilled, that's for teenagers.
Nice deflection sweaty. That should coverup your efforts to blatantly lie ITT about something that's been common knowledge for months.
Yeah, white urbanites burn in their cities.
>apartment for $400
So are you an out of touch boomer or are you a high schooler who never had to look for apartments?
You stupid fucking golem
>y-y-yeah but why not wörk 40 hours
which wont be 40 you retarded goy
>f-for 200 dollars more
If you want to save money dont buy useless shit you dont need
holy fuck
Says a cucked Swede.
>just over 300 Swedish nationals have left the country to travel to fight with Islamic extremist groups in Syria and Iraq.
>40 percent of those – around 120 young men – are from the Gothenburg area, primarily from Bergsjön and Angered. According to Boström this means that Gothenburg, in proportion to its population, is one of the European cities that contribute the highest number of people to violent extremism
DO NOT SEND ANY MORE OF YOUR PEOPLE TO MINNESOTA
>against capitalism and widespread surplus value extraction
Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any system in the history of the world. Ever. The problems you are blaming on Capitalism is actually the fault of international, socialist, globalism (communism) and the centralization of monetary policy at the behest of the same people who helped plunge half the world into communism last century. You are apparently too blind with greed and ignorant of history to realize you are being swindled out of your surplus value by the Left.