Employeranon here

Employeranon here.

Currently, we have a moral hazard in our country. Emergency measures to keep liquidity in the economy have made it better to get fired and work 0 hours than to work at all. Modern monetary theorists be damned, this check will get cashed someday, even if it is only cultural damage. (Don't worry, there will be price action effects as well, don't get all sweaty.)

You see, "work is for suckers". NEET eats tendies, sauce and fries.

We are becoming an entitlement culture. Look around at the world, and see how the entitlement cultures are doing. They're drowning in stagnant economies.

Why the fuck would you get paid double if you didn't invent, realize, or implement the technology?

Let's imagine: If I own an accounting company, and I write or buy some software or machine that does 50% of the work, you expect to get paid double? Is that your expectation?

Or, wait -- You expect to work half the hours? Oh, so we could take on 2X THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS now, but, you think the better plan is to work 4 hours a day. Oh, wow, what a brilliant fucking plan, you are really making a strong argument that you should be in charge of the distribution of resources in society.

It's also an argument that I should just fire you and find someone who has some kids to feed and wants to work as many hours as payroll will allow. You thoughtless, hopeless, dolt.

Oh -- you expect to retire sooner? I see, so the productivity gains create enhanced profit (that is, if I buy the tech, fire and replace you ($$$), retrain them, ramp up marketing, acquire 2X the volume of billable client work without breaking the system), one of the CORRECT uses is to set it aside in a bank account with your name on it so you can retire at 50.

Aren't I already doing that? Isn't that just equivlalent to contributing to your 401k which I already match? You get to choose how much of your paycheck you want to go to your retirement. What the fuck do you want.

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ok boomer

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I'm 27 you homo.

Every single one of my employees is older than me, except for the college chick interns.

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I don't know man.

I really don't think I'm the problem. Look around at the world, and you know you don't want to live in a ship who's sole purpose is making a raft for each passenger, because it is slowly sinking.

You want a fucking ship that can hold water indefinitely and is going somewhere.

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There is only one sauce fit for tendies. Sayit with me anons: MAR-IN-AIR-RUUH

Yeah, yeah. Smug anime face.

Honestly, user, I should have expected this is the discourse now.

It's all so tiresome.

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Day of the cough soon boomer

do you think having lots of stuff and money will make you happier?

I don't exactly know what that you're asking, user. Isn't that what the twitter fag is himself implying? He should have more money & time?

I get what you are saying but paymsnt does not match rise in productivity for quite some time now.

I do not think this image applies to your company, but perhaps it does...

I'll assume it does not.

Personally, I do not see the point in working and gaining my employer to make 10-30x my salary with no financial gain or an "ATTA BOI". I see no personal gain in being able to say "MANAGED X AND NETTED MONDO MARGINS FOR MY COMPANY". Realistically I could shit that out on a word document/resume without needing anything to back it up as the knowledge is there. I do not like my job, because I do not like the individual who is in charge of me. This plays the largest role in people leaving or being miserable. Work isn't necessarily meant to have individual purpose or to be enjoyable, but it also doesn't have to get to the point where you want to be fired either.

Please lurk moar.

This is a political forum and your dumb ass is attacking individuals who use the systems installed by our politicians, while you defend your stance on using the same system installed by politicians in an attempt to make yourself look like the better person.
Yes let’s blame the people who use these systems, but never accept blame for using systems that benefit you.
Grays on the startup or whatever you have going, but your comprehension skills are absolute trash. Bitching without resolution isn’t a genuine start for a constructive discussion of anything.
wtf is your point of this post faggot?

no one is interested in working for you to further their own genocide.

Yeah, I legit wonder if all these people are really going to want to go back to work...

>an accounting company
So you don't produce anything.

not reading your kike bullshit. you'll be in an oven soon enough

Oh I don't think so, infidel. We only dip tendies in mommies special sauce around here. Mayo, ketchup, and a dash of BBQ.

>Employeranon here.
any tips for getting hired? i'm a 2019 business college grad and had about 12 interviews, but nothing after that

where is this ship going? it seems to me that we've been taking on water since the end of ww2. don't live in denial.

Based, redpilled, fpbp, /thread etc.
Never to young to project your entitlement, boomer.

Right, but doesn't that imply that the labor is responsible for the productivity gains?

Pic related is the U.S. but it pretty much stands globally.

The rise in productivity isn't because human beings got so much better at doing things, it was because you could get dramatically increased returns through automation, starting in the early 70s.

This actually makes labour LESS valuable per dollar. In the world since the 80's, you get much more return by investing in capital assets than people. Machinery, technology, automation.

What was once accomplished by adding a team of 25 laborers and paying them continously, now takes 3 skilled consultants and some technology, after a few months, you can do it forever. No payroll.

This is exactly the sort of thing I am talking about. "When you make more money, I should make more money." Why do people just expect to receive benefits they didn't really have anything to do with?

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Just be yourself.

Been here since I was a child. A small child, reading the posts of W.T. Snacks. Where were my parents.

Redpill unrelated: China knew the risks of the coronaviru early, shut down an important military university on Jan 2.

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On a civilization level, production efficiency doesn't mean that people work less, it means the population increases. The population increases to the point where your happiness / misery ratio is the same as before. That's just how humans work

Another kike that only thinks about shekels and not elevating the human condition. I'm growing so weary of you fucks.

hey kike, my skilled labor rates went for far higher than the shit unemployment is giving out.
It's cool though. MY UNION negotiated a supplemental unemployment benefit that will bring my unemployment up to my regular wages.
Dirty fucking jew

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>Why do people just expect to receive benefits they didn't really have anything to do with?
It's going right over your head isn't it?

>Why do people just expect to receive benefits they didn't really have anything to do with?
because they live under the false assumption that they live in a society where they are valued. they don't think of themselves as units of labor. they think of themselves, their employers, and their jobs in human terms. too bad she won't live.

there has been a welfare cliff in the US for over 40 years user. You are telling me you are just waking up to it now?

Of course I'm attacking the very idea, including the system, the politicians, and the very individuals who act as if something awesome is happening.

> Yes let’s blame the people who use these systems, but never accept blame for using systems that benefit you.

I don't know what you're talking about. I have never had $1 of public assistance and at one point I was making the equivalent of $11,000 a year and sleeping on a friends couch.

If the systems you're talking about is literally "giving people products and services in exchange for currency", well yeah, fuck, we should probably keep that going? Am I wrong here?

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gee thanks

>that picture

>mfw I'm a single dude in a socialist country
>mfw I pay into EI
>mfw I pay fuck loads of taxes for senior care, health care, social transfer, & other bullshit that I never use and will never get to use (because these programs won't exist when i'm older)
>mfw people who didn't pay into EI are now able to claim it because they complained so much (because it's an emergency of course!)
>no spousal benefits
>no dependents (which works out to about $9600 in deductibles a year by the way.)
>no savings
>worked doing construction for low income housing in Vancouver where people had newly renovated apartments in the downtown core that they were paying $200/mo to live in.
>every single person in the low income housing was either a mental case (which I get them being there) or somebody who was clearly gaming the system and didn't appreciate it at all.

>mfw some day i'm going to buy some land where hopefully none of the ungrateful fucks of the world will ever be able to bother me again.

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I'd never employ anyone. I can't imagine having to deal with the fucking assholes out there.

Maybe you should fucking pay them better so they want to work more then, if not fuck off.

Yeah. Totally.

> Find small business vacancies who need something you can do. NOT corporate. Mom and pop shops. Doesn't matter what industry.
> Get $400-600 together to incorporate an LLC in your state.
> Get $120-200 for a city business license.
> Apply for the job, email the poster and tell them you'd love to talk about doing some ______ work as you just finished up a big project and you're looking to book some work for ________ (next month's name).
> Go in to the job interview. Look better than the interviewer. They will be a middle aged manager.
> Interview like a bad ass, because you did a lot of homework, you know about the regulations and business model, it allows you to ask tangible questions about their pain points.
> At some point, switch your mind. You are now interviewing them to see if it's right for you.
> Use language like "mutual selection", "could a good fit for both of us".
> Propose that you can, as you have done in the past (nope), operate as an consultant [independent contractor (1099)], which saves them 15% on payroll taxes. You just toss it to your accountant anyway so that they put aside money for tax fees.
> I know it's a little unusual, but I would even be willing to sign an exclusivity agreement so I don't go working for your competitors.
> I actually got a call from _______ the other day (someone else who does what they do), but I haven't got back to them yet.
> If that doesn't work out, I'd still be interested in just being on W2 wages, but I would have to stop my consulting activities so I'd want it to work out so I don't take a pay cut.

There you go, user. Hit Indeed up and god speed.

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What part about "human labor isn't responsible for the productivity gains so why would they necessarily receive the profits" doesn't make sense?

If it's going over my head, you can easily show what I've missed.

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Just be confident bro

This is actually good advice.

/thread

You want to know how I can tell you've never run a business?

You mean, pay them more than they can make by not working?

That's fucking division by zero you brainlet. How can I match the ratio of 0 hours :: $3500/month?

Even working 4 hours for $3500/month isn't as great a rate.

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>You want to know how I can tell you've never run a business?
>
>You mean, pay them more than they can make by not working?
>
>That's fucking division by zero you brainlet. How can I match the ratio of 0 hours :: $3500/month?
>
>Even working 4 hours for $3500/month isn't as great a rate.
Well they might be loyal to you if you weren't a money grubbing asshole yknow. Since they're not we know exactly the type "employer" you are, otherwise you wouldn't be so worried.

It's going right over your head, rentier.

Loyalty? Are you actually serious?

If someone offered you 2X your hourly rate to NOT WORK, would you seriously stick around because of "loyalty"?

Honestly asking.

Seems interesting, you could have pointed out what I'm missing, but yet you repeat yourself.

Is it because you don't really have anything to say?

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The real moral hazard here isn't workers get too much unemployment, it's that we bail out all the banks and businesses every ten years and how they celebrate by buying back their stock and giving themselves bonuses. Unemployment benefits aren't raiding the treasury. They're just the cheese in the trap.

3/4 of all money is stolen to pay for the useless.

You could cut out 3 of every 4 workers and still live a good full life.

If hollywood died. No loss. If McDonalds died. No loss. If Hobby Lobby with its cheap chinese shit never opened its doors again we wouod all be richer for it!

We pay people to produce poison and garbage. We are all slaves to the system.

Whatever. I hope you go bankrupt and loose everything. No one cares.

Yeah.

What we have is a huge wealth transfer to the rich.

And what we will get is stagflation as all the assets are scooped up by the wealthy making them defacto aristocrats and the rest of us little better than 21st century tenement farmers.

I hope a lot of people come to realize that they are holding the keys to their chains in their own hands. We don't have to go back to living the way we did. This is the time to change it all.

>acts like boomer
>gets mad when called a boomer
Ok boomer

Why? No one cares about having jobs? No one cares about financial independence? No one cares about retirement or investing so they have resources for themselves and their families in the future?

I hope you're wrong.

why would you get paid if you didnt invent, implement, or use any of the equipment?
capitolism is dead, and walmart and gamestop just proved that. It isnt worth our time working for some retard that resells imported gook shit made with slave labor. People who do that dont deserve a profit.

What is your point?

They will probably be asking themselves why they need to go back to work.

Of course the answer is they dont. Most of the “work” in the US is totally unecessary.

>society
you mean that thing that's full of niggers?
yeah nah gonna pass on contributing to that, thanks

/thread

Jesus you have no fucking clue do you. What are you early 20’s? Younger.

Its all bullshit. This system we have wont last the next 20 years. Fuck i doubt it will even make it the next 10. It may not even abide the year.

You basically just admitted you pay your employees $11/hr. And where the fuck are you getting 3500 month from?