Um...well Yas Forums??????

Um...well Yas Forums??????

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Because the jews.

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>memeflag

imagine thinking bailouts are socialist.

>YOU CAN'T JUST NOT GIVE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BILLIONAIRES WHO GAMBLED AND DROVE THEIR COMPANIES INTO THE GROUND! THAT'S COMMUNISM!

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The jews in the government have no problem giving us taxpayer money to jewish CEOs

>Imagine thinkiong that State worship is capitalism.

Because FDR and LBJ enacted unaffordable socialist policies that act as financial poison pills
>undermine capitalism
>create financial problems
>"look, capitalism isn't working"
Fuck. Right. Off.

It doesn't need the bailouts.
The system is corrupted by fantastically wealthy assholes exploiting the fuck out of fiat currency.
...beats the fuck out of bread lines and secret police though.

He's not wrong

So Jews are the biggest beneficiaries of capitalism and intentionally destroy it at the same time?

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I don't even know how many levels of irony this is on

There's no good answer for this, which is why /lol/ is a national socialist board

>imagine thinking giving out tax payer money to people with shitty businesses is socialist.

Kys

WE JUST GOTTA VOOOOT THEM OUT BROTHER VOOT ITS YOUR CIVIKEK DUTY
REMEMBER TO VOOT

Call me a bootlicker but isn't bailing out businesses and banks a good thing? If a bank fails, the accounts of everyone in it is gone, if a business fails everyone loses their jobs and in both cases it causes a domino effect that ruins even more businesses and people. I don't want to keep giving money to kikes but isn't it the right thing to do?

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>Um...well Yas Forums??????

What does capitalism mean here?

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>implying modern economies are capitalist and not 3rd world banana republic socialism on a larger scale
This guy and all like him are arguing for national socialism and they don't even know it
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Yes, because the US economy was perfect before those presidents.

Take a penny leave a penny.

Take what you need not what you want.

Live under the bar to hold the bar up for people who do take...

Take 2 Penny's leave one.

Take what you want and what you need at the same time.

Look at your reflection in the mirror.

To all that is to be was ever more than it was ever needed to be.

We are blessed and cursed.

Want need ratio is humanity's ego. Economic values. History.

Big bang as far as somethin made from nothing...

By part with its self we are results of it something or not.

It. Matters. Not.

Because capitalism can't carry everyone all at once. Socialists better get used to being paypigs for their capitalist lords until they get comfortable with eugenics like they used to be.

All this shit is just numbers in a computer. But when the bnaks are "bailed out", that government money will have to be paid back...by you. Because money exists as long as the government can guarantee it pays back its loans/bonds.

A business can be "too big to fail" but not a modern nation, because of global economy, and especially the US cannot go bankrupt that'd mean world wars n shit.

>bailing out businesses and banks a good thing? If a bank fails, the accounts of everyone in it is gone
this is what everyone agrees
the problem is that the "end-user" level banks don't always engage in safe investment strategies. there are laws to stop it that just get ignored. investment banks are much more volatile and we expect to not bail them out. but the commercial banks behaving like irresponsible fuckwits need bailing out.

Move along was your best way of life.

"Socialism"

You mean bailed out by the promise of our children's blood and sweat and tears to feed the machine.

>So Jews are the biggest beneficiaries of capitalism and intentionally destroy it at the same time?

Yes.

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As if socialism doesn't fail either. What is the difference between raising taxes on citizens endlessly and bailing out a company so people can have jobs.

Both systems are shit.

FYI - jews run socialism also.

oh for fuck sake i swear the majority of people are absolutely illiterate when it comes to basic economy
i no longer wonder why the majority of people are poor if it is so big problem for people to learn the most basic shit they deserve it

that makes no sense
but in my opinion any system can work and any system can fail, it just depends on how many resources you have, if you have a lot of resources you can make socialism, capitalism, fascism, monarchies, theocracies, whatever work, but if resources start to run scarce then any system will collapse
ultimately every system works under the same principles, people produce resources, the government takes some of those resources as tax, they use the tax to create public institutions, that's how it will always work and corruption, nepotism etc will always also exist, people will be just more forgiving to it if they have resources to stay happy
whatever the "system" or the "ideology" is just different colors and stars you paint on a flag and you call the leaders by different titles but the actual structure never changes

playing both sides is the only way to keep power in perpetuity

Unironically this

I'm happy to criticize capitalism but every time I do cucks like you call me racist and antisemitic, because the truth is you're a neoliberal who hates whites more than he believes in any kind of ideology

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This. The free market should set interest rates and the fucking central bank who does everything in their power to preserve the inflated market value of assets.

Creative destruction is the most basic part of capitalism.

this The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve or simply the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States of America. It was created on December 23, 1913, with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act
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In 1933, Prime Minister R.B. Bennett instituted the Royal Commission on Banking and Currency[11] and it reported its policy recommendations in favour of the establishment of a central bank for Canada
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It doesn't need that and it would be better if that didn't occur.

It's done to protect the existing holders of assets, particularly leveraged assets. If it wasn't done, "capitalism" wouldn't give a damn - those asset holders would just get wiped out and liquidated, and those formerly rich people would lose everything they own and go to live under bridges. Whoever was best prepared and in cash at the moment of the crisis would buy up all the collapsed assets at pennies on the dollar and growth would resume with all active, non-living-under-bridges asset holders having much stronger balance sheets than before.

"Capitalism" doesn't need to avoid crashes or collapses. Only the set of currently-rich people need to. "Capitalism" can watch all those people be destroyed and continue merrily on its way.

>Claims to hate capitalism and banks
>Hates Andrew Jackson because muh racism
Neoliberals should stop criticizing the system that empowers them

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and when has socialism ever succeeded?

There does seem to be a system of moving money to a handful of people through destroying the economy and then bailing out the top to restart it.
If it is intentional or not, I don't know, but there is wealth redistribution in this nation.
Wealth Redistribution does happen. And it goes to the top through a combination of overprinting and through bailouts.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I don't know. But can we really deny that that the system moves money in that direction?
At the end of the day there is a reality that this nation enjoys comfort and wealth beyond other nations. Some may argue that moving money to the top allows for buildings to be built, employees to be paid, janitors to be hired, delivery services to have something to deliver, a product to move, stores to sell the product and employees being paid enough to buy those products.
At the same time the question is asked are they taking things that don't belong to them? And that is also a legit question.
But then also the response question would be, do people consent to having it taken to keep all those jobs from collapsing?

fpbp

the right thing to do is that they don't fucking crash to begin with

in iceland they fucked over the bank that was trying to fuck them over and they came out on top of their situation

if socialism is so great, why does every major country that tries it need to be bailed out or backed up by capitalism?
Russia, China, Cambodia... all those "socialist" European countries that don't spend money on defense and rely on capitalist america to do it for them via NATO...

Where exactly does this magic socialism money come from? oh that's right FROM TAXING THE LABOR AND PROFIT OF CAPITALISM.

I've paid 3.4 million dollars in taxes over the last 20 years.....but THANKS for the $1200 bucks back?........whoops, I'm being told I don't qualify because I did something with my life.

>government intervention is socialism!
ffs no it isn't

>socialism is when the government gives free money to owners of capital
thats capitalism

americans leftoids are fucking retarded. if this is socialism, are you proposing full time socialism by always giving all the taxpayer money to corporations?

It's not a bailout if the government steps in and causes the economy to crash on purpose by preventing people from working. Also, there would be no need for any stimulus if the government wouldn't have fucked with all the businesses.

>If a bourgeois capitalist state bails out private companies that’s socialism.
Americans are totally clueless when it comes to this topic.
Even the ones who call themselves socialists have little to no understanding of Marx’s theories.

>in iceland they fucked over the bank that was trying to fuck them over and they came out on top of their situation

Exactly.

When a bank fails...let it fucking fail.

The short term disruption may be considerable, but long term that's how you keep your society dynamic and prevent the financial class from coming to dominate everything.

That's the thing about the financial class - you don't actually have to destroy it to be free of it. You just have to stand aside and let it destroy itself. The entire US banking system was chewed up and spit out THREE TIMES in the 19th century and we just kept churning along conquering a continent and creating the greatest industrial civilization on the planet. The names of the rich families just CHANGE, once in a while, if you let the market take its course - everything else keeps rolling.

>money will have to be paid back...by you.

So it's kinda like:

>For reasons unforeseen (but not really), the government will give non-existant money to the bank and now the people are indebted physical labour to a problem they did not cause. Aka. Slavery?

>European countries that don't spend money on defense and rely on capitalist america to do it for them via NATO...
There is no socialist country left in Europe.

>bailed out by socialism

what?
socialism is when the government does stuff?

if corrupt BIG BUSINESS needs socialist bailout because they wasted their ressources and did not provide good goods and services its not that capitalism failed its just that socialism saves corruption

It doesmt but your overlords do it so they makemore money

when you look at the purchasing power of the dollar over the yerars the previous economy looks perfect by comparison knowing what we know now

China is socialist and powerful.
Russia became powerful under socialism.
Europe is no less capitalist than the US. The US also spends government money on healthcare, more per capita than most of the OECD in fact, only it is retarded.
Europe fought NATO wars in Afghanistan and Libya while the US never actually defended Europe from an invasion under NATO. Who's really paying for who's defence?

DAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYUUUUUM

CAPITALIST BTFO

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Um well why don't you ask your jew boss paying you to shill why do they use their political power to steal from taxpayers

republican retards will always say that it's not a free enough market

does someone like me who has no idea what the fuck they are talking about have to explain to you why there an entire spectrum that can range between pure capitalism and communism, just like how you're on a spectrum and high functioning at that

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Yes. It's a big pump & dump scheme. They profit going both up & down (via shorting), as well as from the bailouts (using taxpayer money). It's all about milking the productive members of the lower classes.

Or, imagine if there was Third Positions & you didn't reduce all of politics & economics to a simplistic binary either/or between just 2 systems.

no, because then the banks will do risky strategies, relying on bailouts if they fail.

"no negotiations with terrorists" is the correct approach. dont reward them for bad behaviour.

Government =/= Socialism

Crisis =/= Bail out of entire productive system

OP = Faggot

This is retarded.

If you are trying to implement communism then yes, it's a gradual change from capitalism, but if you are not, doing things like building roads, schools and libraries isn't an increase in communism.