How should we decide who is allowed the privilege to vote and who does not, Yas Forums?

You can contribute in other ways besides being a tax payer you know that right?? If you think that only tax payers should be able to vote then artists, stay at home parents, students etc wouldn’t be able to vote.
So you want to execute all women in society???
Then only people that are like 40 would be able to vote which would suck for young people imo.

IQ test, and job. If unemployed proof you have been looking for work, training in a field needed or attending interviews.

Ok, boomer.
>Democracy
Kek

>white men of good moral character
We had this figured out hundreds of years ago.

voting should be a white privilege only

Thanks for posting that. Just pushed me down a spiral of "what-ifs" and was very interesting.

So ageist, no

How do you decide who has a good moral character and why should only men and white people be able to vote? Other people besides men also have problems and deserve representation in government to help solve those problems.

>If you think that only tax payers should be able to vote then artists, stay at home parents, students etc wouldn’t be able to vote.
Yeah, I think that's what he's getting at.

Ys, execute all women. We are going over to sex robots with artificial wombs anyways.

Literacy test

This land ownership is my go too it just means you're responsible and willing to fight over it as well.

>then artists, stay at home parents, students etc wouldn’t be able to vote.
These people are supported by the workers of society. They don't build society, it is society that builds a platform for these people to stand on and exploit. As it should be, of course, but still they are not workers.

Artists are often paid and paid very well. It's the hobbyist type that, which there are far more of, which does all the complaining.

Yep, its exactly what I am getting at. If you dont contribute to the pool of money the government uses then you dont get to have a say in how it is used.

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One vote per family with at least 2 children.
Only the father gets the right to vote.

Democracy might work with these rules after all.

Why don’t you want those people to be able to vote?
Go back to Yas Forums.
>These people are supported by the workers of society. They don't build society, it is society that builds a platform for these people to stand on and exploit. As it should be, of course, but still they are not workers.
You don’t think that parents who stay at home with their kids to raise them well contribute and help build society whereas some banker is somehow building society?
>Artists are often paid and paid very well.
No they aren’t.
But why? Why do you think that for example the mom or dad who works should get to vote, but the one who stay at home with their kid shouldn’t be able to vote?

I actually like the idea presented in Starship Trooper.
Volunteer for service and you get the vote

Balls

A married couples finances are considered community property, shared between the two. If the husband works and the wife stays home, and their finances are a net positive, then both should be able to vote as they are not a net drain on society.

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Arm-wrestling. It will produce nearly the same result but is more sportsmanlike.

No brown people

>Indians: slave labor
Nice try Pajeet

Nobody in the entire world needs Pajeet labour. Every business operating in India is just a scam.

I guess that makes more sense, but also I don’t like the “net drain” thing since a lot of young married couples wouldn’t be able to vote then because they aren’t earning much money and their kids will take tons of social services which they will need in those early ages, however that married couple will likely not be a net drain later in life, so what’s wrong with giving them the right to vote from the get go since that would probably make people start families at an earlier age?

Minimum 130 IQ and a PhD, to start with.

if you pay taxes, you can vote

Because people who take instead of provide will always vote to use the force of the state to take more. People didnt need social services to raise their kids for tens of thousands of years, and they dont now. Children are not as expensive as people are led to believe. Its not hard not to be a drain on society and we should incentivize people to be productive.

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i am a woman , i HAVE TO VOTE

iq test above 100, net tax contributor, men

not so restrictive as to encourage a revolution but no retards, leeches or women to fuck everything up

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IQ comes a long way, perhaps racial lines unnecessary to draw which gives good optics.

120+ IQ for voting and to hold office would be ideal.
If the limit is much higher say 140 IQ you get a skewed set of personality traits, possibly diminishing the benefits of the test.

120+ assures we have enough average intelligent smart people to have a nice selection, 120 is plenty to be able to get the important things.

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School is expensive, kindergarten is expensive, healthcare is expensive, food, toys, diapers and other hygiene products etc are really really expensive and I don’t like it if you were to let’s say want to create a big family you now need to pay tons more in taxes to get the right to vote then if you had one or two kids since they take up a lot more in social services. And people didn’t need social services back then because they were dumb and uneducated and we need less people who are uneducated not more. Also healthcare didn’t really exist back then and I’d prefer it if giving birth wasn’t made extremely dangerous again and I’d also prefer it if kids didn’t have just a coin toss chance of surviving like it was back in the day.

I just cant agree with the IQ thing. There are plenty of dumb people with low IQs that go to work, pay taxes, and dont ask for anything from the state. Those people shouldnt be penalized for being born a retard as long as they have good behavior and help contribute.

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How about net taxpayer? It does a similar thing—the competent get to vote

National service, whether it be military or civil.
Army, Navy, Air Force, Space Corps, Border Guard, ancillaries
Merchant Marine
Fire service, ambulances and police
Civil defence
municipal service

Voting right granted at the completion of service.

Women and children first.
If there are any ballots left, maybe aome men could vote too

Prussia had a system where the provincial populace was divided into three blocks by their taxes. Top third, middle third, bottom third. One province IIRC had just one dude in the top third.

>You don’t think that parents who stay at home with their kids to raise them well contribute and help build society whereas some banker is somehow building society?
They wouldn't be able to stay home and not work if society wasn't already built beforehand. Like I said, these groups are standing on a platform that the workers built and uphold.

Education is the cheapest it has every been in history. You are talking to me on a device that has the accumulation of the entire worlds knowledge since the beginning of human history all in one place. Public education is expensive because teachers bureaucrats, and infrastructure. If a wife is going to stay home and a man is going to work (or vise versa) it costs almost nothing to educate children. Healthcare is expensive because it required experienced human labor. and people expect to be compensated for the time and energy put into their trade. There is no way to make healthcare cheaper than it is in countries with socialized healthcare other than enslaving doctors and scientists or automating the entire process. As for diapers, cloth diapers are effectively free and much better for the environment. Children dont need a million toys. Take them hiking, learn to love nature, and they wont want plastic shit toys from China. Soap and toothpaste cost nothing. You can feed a child for dollars a day. This isnt rocket science people are just lazy.

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This. Even if you did the sane thing and took away woman's suffrage, you'd still have an element of men that don't care about dealing with the tax levied.

>Minimum wealth
Nothing insane, but you need to demonstrate that you have some stake in the financial health of the country. Think like a net worth greater than $50,000
>Self-supporting
If you're on welfare or receiving benefits of any kind, no vote. You must be a net positive for the economy.
>Citizenship
Should go without saying, but you need to be a citizen. Too many goblins actually think non-citizen residents should be allowed to vote.
>Clean record
If you're a criminal (or have been one in the past) you shouldn't be able to vote. It's a privilege and we're not dying for more people to voice their shitty opinions. Don't have a hard metric for this, but if you're served more than a year in jail or have been fined more than $50,000, then you're not voting.
>Minimum aptitude
Don't know if this would require an IQ test or something, but too many damn voters have no idea what they're doing and just vote for the person that advertised the most on their favourite tv channel. You should probably have to take a test when you're 18 or so that demonstrated 1) that you're not an unironic retard, and 2) that you understand how voting works.
>Unequal vote
Not everyone should have one vote. Some people are better than others (a PhD vs an undergrad) and should therefore have more of a say.
This is just what I can think of off the top of my head, but there's probably more.
Just because they play along like a good golem doesn't mean we should ask their opinion. I love these sorts of salt of the earth, honest, hardworking folks, but they probably should't be allowed to have a hand on the wheel.

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Those workers wouldn’t exist if no one had raised them you know. Without people raising a new generation say goodbye to your society.
>Education is the cheapest it has every been in history. You are talking to me on a device that has the accumulation of the entire worlds knowledge since the beginning of human history all in one place. Public education is expensive because teachers bureaucrats, and infrastructure. If a wife is going to stay home and a man is going to work (or vise versa) it costs almost nothing to educate children.
But she won’t be trained to be a teacher though and I think it’s better to have teachers who are actually trained in their fields to teach kids since I think they’d do a better job at it.
>Healthcare is expensive because it required experienced human labor. and people expect to be compensated for the time and energy put into their trade. There is no way to make healthcare cheaper than it is in countries with socialized healthcare other than enslaving doctors and scientists or automating the entire process.
Well I don’t want kids to die from diseases again and giving birth to be deadly again if you aren’t rich.
>As for diapers, cloth diapers are effectively free and much better for the environment. Children dont need a million toys. Take them hiking, learn to love nature, and they wont want plastic shit toys from China. Soap and toothpaste cost nothing. You can feed a child for dollars a day. This isnt rocket science people are just lazy.
Fair enough BUT one thing though good food isn’t cheap at all, good organic food is actually really expensive you know and I don’t think that industrial agriculture is either good for you or the planet. Also not everyone lives near nature.

It's should be men only, because women can't handle the responsibility of voting. The past century of women's suffrage proves this.

>Without people raising a new generation say goodbye to your society.
They're still not working. Could be, but aren't. Stay-at-home motherhood is a real privilege, just like artists and all the other groups you laid out. It's a desired privilege, but still a privilege nonetheless.

Kinda concerned how slow you are to understand this. I suspect your pride is making you dense.

>because women can't handle the responsibility of voting. The past century of women's suffrage proves this.
They can and no it hasn’t. Like I said women face a lot of problems that men don’t and live different lives than men so they need representation in the government so that laws and stuff also help and protect women and not only men.
>They're still not working.
But they’re still contributing so I think they should get the right to vote.

women should not be eligible for the draft
women should not fill military combat roles
women should not be given the privilege to vote

Anyone who pays taxes should vote

>But she won’t be trained to be a teacher though and I think it’s better to have teachers who are actually trained in their fields to teach kids since I think they’d do a better job at it.
use the internet to learn how to be a good teacher for your children
>Well I don’t want kids to die from diseases again and giving birth to be deadly again if you aren’t rich.
make and save money so that you can pay for medical care. If you cant we have a social safety net so people dont die. Im not a ancap sociopath. Most people dont want people dying in the street and will help provide funds for healthcare, I just dont think it should be mandatory or added into the price for others. People donate to help others and they always will.
>Fair enough BUT one thing though good food isn’t cheap at all, good organic food is actually really expensive you know and I don’t think that industrial agriculture is either good for you or the planet. Also not everyone lives near nature.
Fresh produce, rice, legumes, eggs, are cheap. You can feed a child organic food for dollars a day. I do it. If you have a yard grow a garden and teach your children to help you grow food. If you dont have a yard and live in a city thats your choice.

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You have to convince me that someone that does not have to pay for or defend their vote should get a say.

Not seeing your point. Some areas will have more taxpayers than others, yes.

Intelligence test
Only 120+IQ allowed to vote or hold office
Watch society get fixed

>MXbkstgX
Stop pretending to be retarded.