What is like to be in the military? I'm 24 with a college degree (no debt because I had scholarships and worked) and I have been thinking seriously about joining up. I'm really skinny and never workout though. But I love the United States and want to serve my country and better myself. What should I do?
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I don't know, but intelligence, NSA, CIA... people are extremely gay and unbearable.
>*muffled* It's not a job it's an adventure!
How much stupid bullshit do you want to put up with? Join now and find out!
USMC > USCG > Navy > AF = Army
If you're white you have no business in the army
If not shitpost, then I am actually former army enlisted, and currently an AF officer. I have been a grunt and had the good life.
AF paid for my schooling (2 degrees, at this point about 150k worth). I make 85k a year (2 years into the AF now) and a lot of that is tax advantaged. I probably make a take-home of about what someone making 102k has. Next year (~16 months) when I pin on captain, I'll be at 102 literally, still with the tax advantage.
Honestly I was a clueless user at 18 and I'm so glad I picked this route. I'll probably be able to buy a house with 50% down and I have a guaranteed job for the rest of my life, either as a DoD civilian, a contractor, or AF if I choose to stay in.
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>What is like to be in the military?
There's no way to explain it properly. You have to experience it yourself.
>I'm so glad I choose to kill for ZOG
>only few more years of killing and my Jewish overlords will give me enough to buy a cardboard cuckshed where I will breed more slaves for the Jews
Fuck you bigger, he gave good info
Thank you for your service and your reply
Based and dare I say redpilled.
Go get utilized for Israel, nigger
You won't live long enough to meet your wife's son that she'll make while you are bleeding in a trench
> Killing for jewish overlords
Lul I fucking program computers billy. My wife is unironically jewish so your children can work for my half-zogs though.
I don't believe in TYFYS unironically but it's a job.
>What should I do?
Take the practice test and see what you qualify for. They tried to talk me into intel or translator before they found out I was a HS dropout. Not that desperate yet.
Navy veteran here. Joining the military absolutely will make you stronger mentally and physically, and for me personally it was worth it. Just be aware, you will be trained to be a cog in the machine that enforces the United States' military interests around the world, but in exchange you will be given the best training in discipline and physical and mental toughness that, when your service is complete, you can use to improve your standing in the private sector. As long as you're ok with that it can be a mutually beneficial relationship that you gain from. Also remember, if the situation requires it, you'd better be willing to sacrifice everything, including your life, though that probably won't happen. Good luck.
work out and do it
Are you ready to die for Israel?
So amerishits are no longer brainwashed to believe in bringing freedom and spreading democracy and they outright tell you that you are mercenaries for your ruling clique?
COINTELPRO
Never have to sleep in the big tent
Get ready user, you might get to actually sacrifice your life for Israel.
To clarify, you're probably not interested in the ASVAB, but rather the AFOQT (or army equivalent, w/e). I would not recommend enlisting if you already have a 4 year accredited degree. OTS/OCS pipelines are pretty full right now though. Expect to wait up to a year, and if you have a low GPA, the AF probably won't take you. Army is unironically not much lower, but is looser in terms of what degrees they like to see.
Once again, 90% of people in the military just see it as a job to increase their standing after they get out through education or another related gig. You're literally low IQ for believing otherwise.
Get ready to move every 6 months to a year with little notice
Dont have a kid because it will fuck them
up.
>dad wad a col.
>i moved 25 times in 23 years
>on top of being a sperg, making friends or any kind of social connection is impossible because youll be saying goodbye in a few months at most
>3 elementary schools, 3 middle schools, 2 high schools
>physically unable to give a shit about others and cant be social even if i tried
>only reason i ever married was objective, i grabbed a bottem of the barrel mentally broken landwhale, fixed to her functionality and am using her as a breeding cow
>ITT: foreigntards seething 24/7
I really like the excitement of Americans signing up to literally die for Israel
On the kid thing - not true. I was an army brat and I turned out pretty well. Just make to have a wife who's actually educated and can raise the kid, and don't let them get out of hand and act out.
Dude the (US at least) military is it’s own microcosm of people with a wide and varied strata. I was a sailor in the USN for 6 years, worked a lot a large military hospital doing IT work l, never got a degree and got out and worked my way into a regional corporate safety manager position within a year. I’d you know how to leverage benefits and people’s knowledge or lack thereof of the military you can leapfrog a lot of bullshit. Then again I’ve got a buddy who cooks what basically amounts to prison food and is always trapped on his ship when in port and has been raped twice by other dudes so you never know.
What I was told by the recruiter,(and I only went to see him because the DMV was beyond full), was that laws change quite frequently in regards to enlisting. And that only 500 people a year were guaranteed placements that were homeschooled or GED. It was to protect homeschoolers. The Army would have that number by July. The Navy half the time year over year, and the AF never once reached its mandatory threshold.
You seem smart. Take the tests and you will be placed somewhere nice like air defence.
As always, fuck cooks
Might be more of an army thing, but fuck cooks
Since you have a degree, go officer. Going enlisted would be stupid. If you can get a good score on the ASTB, getting in the flight program is not too difficult in the Navy - if you meet medical (20/40 vision for pilot). UMSC has similar recruiting to Navy. All AF officer positions are favored towards AF academy grads while the Navy takes 1/3 from each OCS, Academy, and NROTC. Not sure about Army. Supply and Intel are other good options if you are qualified.
Got out, now living NEET with disability pay while I apply to jobs.
It's possible that this is the case, It sounds perhaps generally correct (although GED is much more generally applied to anyone who didn't finish HS, not constrained to Homeschooled people).
Really they are going to want you to score pretty well on the ASBVAB if you have a GED to be competitive. 65+ will get you nearly anything for medical, intel, etc. Really the threshold is about 70 for any given job. That was the army at least, AFOQT is slightly different bc AF.
Unironically true
If you do it right, you could see the world, get ripped, retire in your mid 40's with a great pension (unless they changed retirement) and a millionaire (they cover housing and food, invest that paycheck).
yeah man.
i got a few autism diagnosis as a kid
and had a couple cavities in my face.
i really wanted the USMC
but i had to tell the truth, and that was a no go.
tried cia and fbi too, but i smoked pot and dropped acid when i was a kid, so i'm stuck here.
fuck my life.
i still contribute to civilization
build everything,.
churches,town halls, schools, prisons, houses, all of it.
fuck my life.
at least here can bomb isis and fight pedos.
> All AF officer positions are favored towards AF academy grads
I'm going to assume you aren't AF bc this is simply not true. I'm AF as an ROTC officer and while it's true Academy is favored for rated positions, It's actually a pretty 40/40/10 ish cohort split for the AF. Or it is now, put it that way. Around 900-1100 pilots come from AFROTC every year.
45* sorry lol
>i moved 25 times in 23 years
Calling bullshit. No one PCS's that much, the DoD doesn't allow it.
If you join go airforce. Try to get into Intel. Work on your MBA if you plan on moving up as an officer or getting out.
Question for the thread at large - I'm in Army ROTC right now, but have thought about switching. Sell me on each branch (I also suck dick at math so NROTC might not be a good idea)
>What is like to be in the military?
A never ending game of gay chicken.
Easy to get in. Hard to get out. I did a total of 6.5 years in 2 different armies and i've been contracting in the middle east and africa for a few years now. The easiest time you'll have in your life is when you're a grunt, the shitshow ensues if you go to contracting. Impossible to build any kind of life because you're always abroad in some shithole of a country. Would join again no ragrets 10/10
Why the actual FUCK would you not wait to clean out your system, and lie at MEPS?
I had a 96. He was hyperventilating. Then disheartened. This is in the 2004-07 timeframe. Told me to fuck off the 2nd meeting pretty much.
I have a cousin that's a recruiter, there's 20,000 checks a day or week something. They don't screw around with borderline people.
True
Literally graduated AFROTC two years ago, whatchu got. Was also army enlisted.
Agree. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. I got an AF pilot slot off the street and went to OTS.
Not as familiar with AF, but when I was applying many years ago (went Navy obviously), it seemed most AFT OCS (OTS?) was favored towards prior military. I assume the 10 is OCS? In which case it would be harder for op for AF officer positions.
I had the same albeit in 2014, hard to believe they'd turn you down unless it was medical-history related?
fuck this country. if you have a meme degree that doesn't translate too well in the civie sector, just go ahead and join for the bennies/free shit and preferential hiring treatment if you decide to leave when your contract is up. most of the military is filled with nonwhites anyway.
I'm trying to go intel, what branch should I go to? Army is probably easiest for it (And I'm in Army already) and least gay, but idk
Officer in the air force. If not there then the navy. Do some kind of medical field or law. Have the military pay for your graduate studies. Do your 6 years, learn, and get the fuck out and do your own thing.
Special forces tho
Naval Officer here, don't fucking do it unless you're a pathetic midwit who wants to climb a bureaucratic ladder of mediocrity and waste the Nation's resources.
I already know you won't listen to me because by the time you get to posting about it on Yas Forums you've swallowed too much propaganda and think I'm just jaded, despite literally all recent veterans saying exactly the same thing. Don't fucking join. Get involved in local politics if you want to serve your country. We need people in there occupying that space and keeping it non-communist, not another deck swabber or dirt raker.
>hard to believe they'd turn you down unless it was medical-history related?
Nope. But my cousin has said that taking SSRs would disqualify you, so that one can't mention it. After orientation its fine. But if said he has to report it. I took them for tow weeks, never mentioned it. It was the HS dropout thing. I could probably still got in, but it was a soft rejection. My cousin used to make people add up 14+17 to see if they used their fingers so he didn't waste tests.
Can definitely happen, no doubt.
AF is really about "rated" vs "non-rated" AKA line officer (not pilot, nav, CSO, RPA, etc). Honestly it's hard to pin down exact numbers because the drawdown from about 10-14 really screwed up some numbers in terms of longterm rated projections so now it's to the point where they are taking anyone with a heartbeat and an AFOQT score over 50. I see that slowing down though likey this year or next. AFROTC selection was about 86% this last round I think?
I'vve unironically interned for a three letter in college and I'm going to tell you right now AF intel is where you're going to want to be. Look at it this way, many Intel missions are AF-based because they own all the space and air assets that are collecting. Army has USCYBERCOM but that's got enough of a joint atmosphere that anyone could grab a slot there. I'd go AF.
Yup. Exactly what I'm doing now.
Does anyone else notice the Star of David above the eagle?
Since you have no college degree you will have to enlist. ONLY ENLIST IN THE AIR FORCE OR NAVY. Do cyber security, intelligence, or medical. IF YOU HAVE DONE DRUGS, LIE AND SAY NO. With a security clearance and 4 years experience in cyber or Intel you'll make between 80 and 120k starting.If you get your degree you're looking at 100 to 160k.
-USAF INTEL VETERAN W/ MASTERS in Homekand Security Counter Terrorism
Navy Officers don't swab the deck tho
don't consider anything other than commissioned officer in the air force. If that doesn't work out, do something non military.
>source: Enlisted Marine in avionics for 5 years
Makes sense. I'm most interested in either glowie type shit, space shit (which would definitely be AF), but normie tacint would be fun too. At some level, I want be a doorkicker, or at least work with them. Is there a pipeline for AF intel officers to have a halfway decent shot at going to special tactics or be a TACP/JTAC later on?
Those bennies are a joke, and they will find any way possible to fuck you out of them. They are killing vets in the VA so they dont have to pay for them. Uncle sam only gives empty promises, once you get used up, you will be discarded. You are property when you join. Enlisted personell live under the poverty line until they hit about E-6.
I didn't say it doesn't happen. The acceptance rate for AF is lower, at least when I was applying.
That's another reason I went Navy. Navy guarantees your designator if accepted.
>retire in your mid 40's with a great pension (unless they changed retirement)
They did change the retirement. It's much worse now. Fags won't realize that for another 5-10 years though when people who opted into BRS see the difference in their pension payments compared to what their smarter companions are getting.
My bad, I thought you said no college degree. You can try for an officer position, but wait times are usually long, and the Air Force has the AFOQT. You still might be better enlisting and having your GI Bill pay for your Masters when you get out. You're looking at 100 to 150k in cyber or intel when you get out as a contractor, its what I did. Enlisted with my bachelor's, and used my GI Bill for my masters.
>SSRs
SSRIs
Sorry didn't mean to sound like I was disagreeing, ur def generally right.
Yes, but the term you're looking for is "STO" or special tactics officer.
Mathematically assuming 5% contribution the BRS is actually worth more to a retired person than the High-3, although I imagine many don't contribute, so I agree in the sense that it was likely a screwover at a fundamental level to a lot of folks.
I was happy about the retirement change. Most people do not make it to 20 years. Now I have money in a retirement account that the government helped contribute. Otherwise I would have ended up with nothing. If you do make it to 20, then yes, it is worse.
Almost everyone in the military will never see combat. If you’re redpilled in the military you can make sure you never serve or die for Israel. Also military experience can be your gateway into the CIA where you can troll niggers with crack rocks.
This is basically the best advice on here and lines up with what I've been saying. I got offered Air Combat Controller because of my AFOQT Rated section. My dumb ass didn't know what the job was and enlisted as intelligence. My bachelor's was in Criminolgy, and this was back in 2009. Between this post and what I've been saying, you'll get hooked up.
Shockingly accurate if incomplete meme. It's missing the gross incompetence and selfishness of officers.
It's fucking impossible to nail an officer for a crime unless it's some kind of sexual assault thing, and even then it's hard. Most shit gets dragged out and dropped once it's been a few years and the victim's gotten over it.
Is it like the green berets where I drop the packet as an O2 or O3, or am I stuck doing it my whole career?
Go be an officer... Af is easy and will set u up after u get out...army or Marines if u have something to prove or wanna get into some shit.
Fucking medical officers are so unbelievably clueless and nurse corps officers are always fat bitches and whores. Dentists are cool though.
I plan on riding out my next 5 years and knocking out my med school prereqs using TA, then following it up with that tasty GI bill.
Also this, to the force as an aggregate it is worth more.
thank you
Uh there's definitely a pipeline for it. Actually I think the training starts your last year of AFROTC if you're selected. You could probably crosstrain later though if you're desperate enough. What's your major?
Untrue, literally. legalassistance.law.af.mil
Ok, if you want to do a masters or more, join ROTC, NOW, they'll ship you to basic over the summer for 10 weeks, you'll come back and take your masters program for 2 years, complete it and commission as an officer in the army or branch of your choice, reserves, guard, active army, navy, air Force (ezpz), or... Space force... :)
Tips: If you want a combat role, you won't get that in the active army.
If you want a combat role, you'll get that with the guard. The guard is a meme, everyone is fat, but if you want it to be a part time lifestyle, then its not bad so long as you take care of yourself and your soldier. Some people can get lucky and get a lot of rotations/deployments if that's what you want. In ROTC you can get a quick path to a school like airborne or air assault so long as you get a 270 PT score and have decent grades.
You could instead do OCS. It's harder but its also realer. It can also be A LOT faster process if you choose to go the accelerated route. ROTC is a bit of a meme too but it pays for your school up except for doctorates. Its longer because you can't accelerate shorter than 2 years, but if you want to do some school, that won't really matter.
What's your major/career of interest?
>t. Officer
My man, I was attached to JSOC under AFSOC as enlisted Air Force. If u want to do "glowie" shit, which is what I do when I got out you will either have to do SOF work, which will get you into HUMINT Collections (CIA Ground work, and you have to learn a language to do this) or do intel or cyber and you're not kicking in doors. I'll answer anything you want as long as it's not classified because I'm not going to jail to help out some user.