I am going to see where the debt in Canada goes overall, but it seems to be going down until this crisis happened, whereas in the US it keeps going up. Further the Constitution does not seem to be worth the paper it is printed on, with the EARN IT act, Patriot Act, the bailouts, and other laws coming into being or that are already on the books. I know tax wise the US is better, but then again I can stil own a gun both in Canada and the US as a citizen of Canada, as well as being able to visit the US. My only concern is what they consider hate speech (I usually don't say anything that could be construed as that, but who knows) and whether there are laws in Canada I don't know about. Is Canada less pozzed than the US or more so as I don't want to support the US government with my tax dollars anymore.
Moving to Canada. Is it more Pozzed than the US?
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Fuck off yankie dankie doodle
Canada is way better than the US. We are by far the worst country in the western world. They feel superior for a reason
Fuck off we’re full
its a shithole. The food and people are garbage
Don’t do It fren, it’s a nightmare up here.
This,
You can't come here, foreigners not allowed.
fucking pussy, run off like a bitch with her tail between her legs. You don’t have to go to cancuckstan but you can’t stay here
Fuck off We are Full. And don't forget, your ancestors betrayed the Crown.
You fought for the right to stay in your shithole, alone and without the rest of your brethren.
So stay in your shithole.
Go to Alberta if you're going to go anywhere in Canada.
The rest of the country is a lost cause.
What specifically is the worst part about it? Also I don't plan to stay there forever, mbut more likely make a more permanent move from there. I was thinking putting up with BS for 5 years so I can not be tied to the state when shit goes down might be worth it.
No man. Alberta is fucked. I'm trying to get out now.
>Also I don't plan to stay there forever, mbut more likely make a more permanent move from there.
talks just like a fucking rapeugee
Dont know where the fuck else you'll go, this whole country is fucking backwards and it seems like Alberta is the only province with a grasp on how to run shit.
Stay in the US, trust me.
Canada sucks. Trudope is worse, provincial boarders locked down, imagine not even being alowed to cross state lines.
The climate is horrible. Only good jobs are through nepotism. Small towns being filled with refugees. The cities are obscenely expensive. The small towns are gutted out post industrial shitholes or full of retirees who spend only in stupid gift shops.
inironically this
>I just want to use your country as a convenient escape pod whenever I feel like it. Rather than actually be an engaged and productive citizen. Hey leaf bros how do I do that?
Fucker. If you want to do that, go to Mexico.
Versus staying in Weimar 2.0 . Yeah no thank you.
This.
fuck this fag, you know he won’t leave and all this is just talk, like the government really cares what he feels about paying taxes. I wish people like this could be kicked from the country immediately upon saying shit like this.
Don’t fucking be a burden I have to pay for if you don’t want to contribute.
Please swap citizenships with me. PLEEEASE
You're here forever.
Oh man. That's some grass is greener shit. I've been out here working in the public sector for almost a decade. It has hugely deteriorated, now more than ever.
Tomorrow the government will lay off thousands of people as part of a planned downsizing of unprecedented scale.
Oil isn't worth shit and even the last standing companies are looking at the exit. Agriculture is taking a huge hit both from the government downsizing and from climate change. We havent had many good crop years this decade.
You're right. It's all gone to shit. And it's going to get a lot worse. All I want to do is get back to family back East and pool our resources to get through this. Look out for each other. Circle the wagons.
Tomorrow I'm honestly hoping I am one of those to be laid off. Or else I'm going to tender my resignation.
I have two fears: not selling my house in time (likely), and a travel ban making driving cross country difficult in the coming days.
Either way. Interesting times.
Fuck you nigger, were full. Go suck a tail pipe.
so your answer is to sulk away admitting defeat before ever really having to work for it. Pathetic.
Even the leafs don’t want you shitting up their country further and I don’t blame them. Don’t speak of Weimar like you’re some nationalist, your a weak minded fence sitter and contribute more to these conditions then fight against them.
Fuck you.
I would have said that a year ago but you are going to see some serious shit hit the fan in USA in the coming year. I dont blame OP for wanting to get out.
Unfortunately I dont think we are far behind the Americans.
what are the most uptight people you've ever met? picture that in your head for a moment.
think of any experiences you had with them
now multiply that by 10 and that's the average white Canadian for you
you won't be able to voice your opinions here the same way you do in the US without people around you thinking you're a white crazy weirdo terrorist-to-be and being condescending as fuck after
taxes are way higher here to, roads are always fucked up, food is crazy expensive
if you need any medical treatment be prepared to wait for months (maybe years) before you get your first family doctor appointment
I'm giving it to you straight, no sugarcoating
if you still wanna come don't complain after
big cities are as pozzed as california or NY. Smaller towns are better but still filled with chinks and shitskins. Gun laws are pretty shit but better than California or NJ. Everything costs more.
fyi the average white canadian is as liberal as the average commiefornian
I'm leaving Alberta tomorrow. Probably selling the bottom so to speak. But fuck this place.
Pretty much this. Except French Canadians are way more uptight than the average Canadian.
I wanna go to Alaska, seems more tolerable than the Yukon and less forest fires than mid to Northern B.C., which I otherwise love.
Why should I contribute to a nation that has failed over the past 20 years. And yeah I have probably done more to try and bring shit to people's attention than many of the couch potatoes on this board, but the fact is people are ok with where the US is going, and I am trying of arguing with children.
Godspeed bro. Hoping I'll be close behind you.
It's just like the US, but with colder climate and more immigrants/democrats. And they have a French-speaking province.
Don't be a nigger apply for a job in Canada and then figure it out.
Canada is an incredibly shitty place. Trudeau is legitimately horrible, a total corrupt incompetent unlike Trump who is mildly incompetent and actually seems to care about America.
The average Canadian is ignorant beyond belief and so shallow they have literally nothing to talk about besides not being American.
The food is terrible. People shit on American pizza but Canada's biggest pizza chain is sub-Dominos from a company run by Indians, and their normal pizza isn't good either. Their fried chicken is awful and their major chains are overpriced for tasteless food. Unironically McDonalds is decent food compared to the majority of Canadian fare.
The taxes are high, prices are high, and the hospitals are junk if you live in a major city.
Canada is flooded with immigrants, either nogs from Jamaica, Muslims, or chinks, and then they have fucking ABOS who are the gypsies of Canada and they literally do nothing all day but steal whatever isn't bolted down and drink mouthwash out in the open
I appreciate it. That is what I was trying to find. To me it seems like a trade off between higher taxes (and prices) and civil liberties. I just did not know if there were things like the Canadian Patriot Act or things similar to that. Thank Canadabro. I will not try to take this shit lightly.
More cucked in some ways, less in others. The federal govt acts pretty pozzed, but on the other hand it don't stroke the israelis nearly as hard as the US federal govt does, and is actually nowhere nearly as accommodating of illegals. Trudeau has toned down the theatrics since the blackface scandal (only took him 4 years as the head of state of a G20 nation to figure that out, ffs). Some of our provincial governments are also pretty based, such as in Ontario and Quebec.
You will be treated like shit unless you are shitskinned and dont speak english
Yeah be with family right now. That's what I've done. Fortunately we all live in Alberta.
>I have two fears: not selling my house in time (likely), and a travel ban making driving cross country difficult in the coming days.
Yeah you are definitely not going to sell your house at a time like this dude.
If you leave NOW you might still have a chance to drive through all this shit, but the longer you wait the worse its gonna get.
Canada is on par with California. LCBO, the state monopoly alcohol seller, has a new policy of not stopping shop lifters. I had to walk my toddler past an bum throwing up on a subway platform at 11am. I bitterly complained to Canadians and none of them could understand what I was so upset about. I've spent significant time in NYC and never saw that level of degeneracy
Well I wanted to research before I go, but I have found a way to immigrate and find a job. I just want to make sure there are no gotchas that would deter me like a Canadian Patriot Act.
>Moving to Canada. Is it more Pozzed than the US?
If that's a sentence that rolls easily off your lips then you won't like it here. Or possible anywhere. If you're a regular decent person then Canada is a great place.
As somebody that lived in both countries for many years, Canada is worse than the US in every single way except two:
>poorfags can see a Dr
and
>less of a certain 'highly aggressive population group'
The later is very nice.
Why would you say Ontario is based? Quebec I get with immigration restrictions and trying to keep it's culture.
We are POZZED King nigga.
Taxes higher
Housing way higher
Cost of living higher
If you get sick you're probably going to go south of the border and pay out of pocket
Commie health care is a pile of shit
White fertility is lower in Canada so a greater % of whites are worthless boomers, who are way more liberal than American boomers
>Why should I contribute to a nation that has failed over the past 20 years
Since you brought up Weimar, ask Hitler the same question. You sit there defending your actions, but deep down you know it’s just running from problems you can’t muster the strength to face. You’ll leave the nation you’ve been “helping” for the last 20 years at the drop of a hat. Run off to Canada, but don’t misguide yourself, you’re a deserter.
Leave, i really don’t care, but don’t act like you’re some wounded saviour, you’re a pathetic cuck running to Canada just like drag dogging hippies and not-my-president lefties
It was going down because of Alberta. They should honestly separate from Canada and do their own thing, this country is fake and gay.
Is the state monopoly provincial or the government of Canada?
Quebec culture is definitely something you want to keep.
Yeah I'm aware. It's a question of how much I want to drop everything and go. Believe me I know the window could close any day now.
But I also don't want to be that idiot a month from now when everything is back to normal, who panicked and drove across the country with nothing but a dog, a shotgun and a case of Beans, leaving his home and all his property behind.
>job
LOL GOOD LUCK
Canada is one of the 5 eyes
Why does the Patriot Act even matter when all Five Eyes intelligence agencies just spy on each others' citizens and then share the data with each other? It just instantiated in law shit that was already happening. If you own a gun here the feds run a new background check on you every single day, and are allowed to enter your home at any time to ensure proper storage of the firearm and ammo. Stop being a self-hating American, it obviously has its problems but is the only Western country I'd move to, other than maybe Australia.
provincial
Good luck selling the house with this shit going on
I left the prairies to come back to the rock, waiting for all this to pass. I don't expect to have work for a long while
So they are a more dishonest country than the US. For instance in the south they'll honestly say they are racist and only like white people. But in places like Alberta which are known for having some of the most racist people in the world, they'll all deny they are racist. In Alberta they'll say things like "Black people are stupid and ugly and I hate them" but then if you call them racist they'll look at you like your crazy.
Canada has its pros and cons.
Lower Mainland BC is chinked, southern Ontario/GTA is pozzed, Alberta is pretty bad desu I lived and worked there for a couple years and its failing due to neocon political leadership for half a century - its also being poo'd by the same neocons who MIGA faggots think are "based right wingers".
The only places left that aren't completely fucked are Saskatchewan/Western Manitoba, Quebec, and Atlantica.
If you don't speak french then Quebec is pretty much out of the equation.
Anyone I've known that has lived up there says it's a very cool place
The only advantage Canada is is baby bonus. If you want to be a welfare leech you can shit out 6 kids and get $3 grand a month from the government.
A distant second possibility is it is legal for a province to leave Canada so theoretically if enough based people got a political movement going they could peel off a province
>The only places left that aren't completely fucked are Saskatchewan/Western Manitoba, Quebec, and Atlantica.
Why do you retards keep saying quebec is not fucked? All of this pozzed degeneracy you complain so much about comes from quebec.
great point on nepotism! everyone successful i know got their job through a family or friend, the rest are debt strapped and working retail
So you looked into the lengthy and difficult immigration process right?
We're basically a few steps behind Sweden. The coming years are going to be cringe and poz in the cities. If you can handle the country life, do it
Montreal is degenerate AF but anything north of St. Hyacinthe is basic french land full almost exclusively of white Quebecois.
Ottawa and Toronto are anything but based, they're brown town
Yes, have fun dealing with 10 feet of snow.
we are in similar situations
I've been seriously considering moving to the US for a while now
seeing this country being systematically destroyed by its own people breaks my heart
in the US you at least have a possibility things can change
here people have been brainwashed/indoctrinated for so long the only path left for our future is to become Brazil 2.0 with loads of indians, pakis and chinks
fortunately blacks are not a problem here like they are in the US, yet
all kind of sexual degeneracy hevily pushed in schools and media so kids can consume it freely
Fidel's son proudly said we are the first transnational state, that there is no such thing as Canadian culture and most Canadians instead of being appalled by this insane statement, happily agreed with it
it's a sad state of affairs here
we are completely demoralized
5 eyes?
He's probably talking about Rob Ford but ignoring the prior PM was a lesbian who's education minister was a literal Jewish charged-and-imprisoned sadistic pedophile who spearheaded a perverted mandatory sex education curriculum (which is still on the books, just got moved out of kindergarten)
Looking at IEC and then trying to PR. I may have this totally ass backwards but that is what I have found most straightforward followed by schooling being the second option (I do have a degree so would probably go for masters).
Lived with snow half my life. I will manage.
No stay over there leafy
stay in your shit country. Canada is going to plummet from the pandemic.
JT has gone brutally over budget since he was elected. 10 billion dollar budgets turned into 30 billion over budget every year for 4 years.
Oil is done and the government is just going to pump cash into it's citizens for the next 6 months.
Our economy is falling apart like no tomorrow
That is sad. It is funny I kinda feel the same way about the state except for a few states (which are ok), but the federal government is what makes it worrisome for me.
There is no place to run. I realized that when Fartbongo started settling Africans in rural Maine. We have to starve the beast and have huge families. If we're not willing to fight back there will be hardly any white people left in 200 years
>reddit spacing
Snow and cold keeps shitskins away. You think any brown mess WANTS to live in Canada and suffer through our winters? They only come here for the gibs. Since the country is on the verge of financial ruin and balkanization, 99% of them are going to pack up and flee to Arizona or some other warm place south.
Makes sense. I used to lived the Ontario border and it seemed like pozzed city honestly. BC seemed interesting but would have to put up with a lot of Chinese immigration might make that a bit difficult.
i doubt any of that had to do with anything. the jew owns the crown and the wormed their way into america. its all shit. only difference is americans have a better constitution. however people make their own rights through force. doesnt matter if you have a leaf or stripes.
we are heading into interesting times.
This is true but there are plenty of snowy places in the US
I fucking hate americans thinking they can come to canada but not be canadian. If you want to come here you need to drop your faggety ass obnoxious america first bullshit. Nobody wants americans moving here.
Literally every american I meet is so self-important yet obviously a brain dead dipshit who can't see the world outside their armspan. Everyone sees through your inflated ego and nobody wants to live with it.
Stay in your fucking country.
That was my understanding, however I thought they grew, so the debt to gdp went down? However I was a bit shocked to see this as the debt to gdp was up but is starting to go down. It is kinda ironic as the US is supposed to be the fiscally sound one.
BC is even worse than Ontario. The whites there are terminally retarded hippies who vote for the National Disaster Party and pot was defacto legal there 10 years ago. Not to mention the cities are shitholes littered with opioid addicts on the same level as Sand Fransicko
I don't understand canadians who "seriously consider moving to the US". Like what is your logic here? Do you think the US is less degenerate? Do you think the US is a BASED ethnostate? You realize it's like Canada but on steroids in good areas and complete fentville in flyover shitholes where houses are cheap?
Where shitskins don't immigrate to. You might find some latinos living on a farm in Montana for 6 months a year, or some weird instance of Somalis living in the Twin Cities, but the rest of them all move to California or where ever. New York is probably the only cold place they'll go and because Jews migrated them there, then regretted it.
also to add. FUCK KINGS KUCK JEWS FUCK THIS
Were gonna need to make our own Europa after the dust settles. Burgers with me?
I thought the BC liberals were more right wing and were a favorite in government. Could be wrong on that so correct me if I am wrong.
>nonwhite detected
I have a hit for you: more stuff is run provincially than federally in canada so if you want to look at the real debt per capita you have to include provincial debt
Double hint: Ontario is one of the richest provinces and in more debt per capita than commiefornia. They've been raising property taxes at the height of the housing bubble
There are more job opportunities in the US, the pay is higher for professional jobs, the tax is lower, there are more medium-sized cities with affordable housing, etc.
they're very suspicious of anglos, foreigners and non french-speaking people but they're pretty laid back between themselves
I blame them for being freeloaders for pretty much their whole existence but I cant blame them for being proud of their origins and wanting to keep their white identity, something that anglophones have given up
There you go, it's more a matter of harsh cold rural living conditions vs. urban shithole than Canada vs. US
We have had no ability to pay off any debts. When asked about how he's going to balance the budget. His response was literally "The budget will balance itself".
Which is why I was thinking of avoiding Ontario if possible as their debt situation looks problematic.
In my situation I'd only move to the US for money, which is pretty standard for any Canadian. Problem is the only places that actually pay way more are pozzed shit holes. I can make more money in city planning in a small city/town in Canada with a lower COL than a larger US city even factoring in the exchange rate and (slightly) lower taxes. If you work in tech tho there is 100% certainty you'll move to the US.
na bro they are communists.
only semblence of right wing is alberta and parts of ontario. the rest is lefty commie land.