Why cant ameripoors afford reinforced concrete or bricks ?
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Because USA is a land of FREEDOM, so Americans are FREE to choose the worst.
Stay jealous.
because they are not built to be long term investment, but to be flipped for a quick buck
Honestly most houses here are being sold at an insane amount and they are absolute garbage.
Most of them should lower the value of the property since you have to pay to dismantle and cart it off.
Old rotting houses made out of shit materials and never properly maintained.
Earthquakes + bricks = bad.
>i-its cheap poorfags wouldnt understand
nevermind they switch to paper plastic composite these days
We don’t let our houses get old and smelly like Europoors
The vast majority of the US is no more earthquake than europe.
It's quite simple. Timber is plentiful and cheap, stone and brick is not. Europoors don't get hurricane level storms so the idea there old stone shanty's built to a 1850s standard would survive one is laughable and unfounded. There are colonial era wooden homes still occupied today on the east coast.
I don't get this meme, plywood is extremely strong. OSB is bullshit though. There are plenty of houses shoddily built but the use of wood doesn't indicate that.
Whats Atlanta and charlottes excuse for building everything with plywood? Theres no earthquakes and the winters are extremely mild
Mid west kansas fag here, earthquake just this month...
Stop making these pathetic fucking excuses. Vast swathes of the country have no hurricanes, snow, or fucking earthquakes. Houses are built like this because greedy kike developers want to save money (hence why the also use illegal aliens to build them) and then sell these shitboxes to the goyim for 500k
>this tired yurocope thread
We have a shitload of trees, you dont. Most of our houses problems here come roofs leaking or other forms of moisture getting in.
Look at the history of the iron nail and timber frame houses. Those old 'western saloon" type of buildings were a revolution in construction here. We had nothing here on the frontier. We didn't have the connected services and transport for heavy construction materials until the late 19th century.
We had an abundance of timber all over and plenty of timber plantations. Why do you think those southern slave mansions were such elaborate large timber constructions. The history is interesting.
Modern homes are shit from lighter materials to slash costs.
have fun core drilling through 12" concrete walls to install all your pipes and wires
History too. It's cheaper in a dispersed landbase. There are plenty of steel beam concrete buildings but that is a relatively modern practice.
I will
Its a great excuse to break out the power tools
>Not just pouring concrete to be able to jackhammer it later
>plywood
What's wrong with plywood? It's OSB that's shit.
This must be the thread where faggots who have never set foot on a construction site espouse their worthless opinions on building materials
OSB is shit and I built the townhouses near me as a kid
>based excavator operator letting me sit in his lap and showing me how to do it all
>actually getting to know that you dug the basements
I bet you think its okay to let the wood sit on the lot cause the tivek will save it later
Personally I'd like to see what we can construct with "super wood", essentially a delignified and compressed wood that is very strong. Best part about it is that you can make it out of most any cheap wood. I think I might try constructing an outbuilding out of it one of these days.
Any houses fall down?
Free masons made concrete walled home illegal in 99.999% of the US and western world
Renting just outside of Atlanta here. Every house in our neighborhood looks exactly the same and it definitely has paper thin walls so it's really here the outside, and from the outside, it's easy to hear from the inside. And it gets fucking hotter in the house than outside sometimes it I'm not blasting the AC. Can't wait until the lease is up and I go back to buying.
Not going to fall for the "modern" style again. My old house was old, but sturdy. Took it for granted. When I relocated for the job, I decided I wanted to rent a modern looking home while looking to where I'd want to buy. Regret it
As a realtor, yup.
Wood rots so easily. Roofs are shit.
Watch the house being built. Illegal mexicans just nail framing which ever way. Nails splitting wood beams. Nogs on roof shooting nails anywhere and hoping to do good enough job to get paid their $150 a day.
Huge margins for construction companies and realtors.
300k for a house wouldnt be a bad thing if it was all shaped and stained concrete, with nice utility rooms and metal roofs.
there's more than just bricks or particle board cucksheds.
Yeah, we do have century old wood houses, but they were build out of logs and not out of 2x4 s and paper mache. And hollow bricks are fine for Isolation, too.
Who cares? Americans don't stick with their homes, and the ones that do repair and rebuild their shit. Most homes are owned by landlord scum anyway.
The rest of the world uses American homes as a cope, yet no one can afford anything nice anyway. Get over it. We're still #1 no matter how many times you make this thread it doesn't change our status
Does someone have the video where the guy scratches an American house "wall" and the entire thing just brickled appart into wood chips and dust?
this isnt the full story
30-60% of the cost of building a house goes to permit fees and legal fees. so costs are cut with materials
>I bet you think its okay to let the wood sit on the lot cause the tivek will save it later
WTF is this supposed to mean? Yeah, before the house gets built, the materials sit on the lot. After the roof goes on you turn on the heat and dry the wood out before sheetrock and trim. Obviously you have no idea
Lot of houses starting to be built over here made of fucking plywood too.
You are a mexi sheet
Use the tarp for something other than trying to cobble a boat for the rio
Who uses heat? Never heard of that in the south.
Concrete develops black mold. Enjoy your sickness
Construction firms from NY have taken over and started throwing up matchstick mcmansions for all the transplants working at the banks in Charlotte, at insanely inflated prices. They're gentrifying the hoods and running niggers out, but the nigs don't leave the city and instead just get more section 8 money and forced into decent old neighborhoods where they terrorize old white people.
I'm leaving for SC to start my own construction business building houses in the old styles with old methods.
>letting me sit in his lap and showing me how to do it all
>actually getting to know that you dug the basements
So did you sue him?
Indeed. We're all just trying to leave someone else holding the bag.
We have a dirt floor we laid plywood over 15 years ago at my Dad's place, it gets rained on from the leaky roof every time it rains, still fine after all this time. Plywood is pretty tough.
>being unable to open your windows for fear the wood will swell
Why?
Methimericans are fun
Its why theres such a push to use Mexicans instead
In the “large swaths” that doesn’t one of the events, housing isn’t that expensive.
Why cant ameripoors protect ourselves? same reasons every time. $ and Jews with $.
Housing is expensive everywhere except mcbumfuck areas with nojobs.
All our money goes to babysitting you faggots, the minute we leave you'll start slaughtering each other again.
Sauce?
You're retarded. Timber, drywall and OSB are strong, durable and plentiful. All of that matters when mass producing huge homes. Some Eurofags might have nice old brick and slate homes but they're tiny, old and limited.
More of this please German-kun
If your house is poorly built, that's the contractor's fault. There are literal codes in place to prevent shoddy construction which risks lives.
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Americans don't stay in one house for a decade. They tend to move around a lot. American house is disposable.
Europeans house is designed to be a multi-gen house - that will be given to their children and the children of those children. They are the overly expensive, highly efficient, perfectly insulated, high-quality house. In another word, European houses would out live American houses.
I live in Florida and my house is great. Its all cinder block and concrete. I suppose a hurricane could rip the roof off but it would have to be a really bad one. Even then the rest of the house is fine.
Lol just use reinforced concrete bro nothing can ever go wrong
USA got the nukes, so (in theory) we don't need to worry about using house as battle bunker.
Paper houses are easy to remodel and add new shit. My neighbor's wife has remodeled her kitchen 3 times in 15 years. Not just new oven, but moving walls and sink locations.
Much more bang for the buck, which makes nothing but good sense if you got the land.
Every Euro-poor I've dealt with is impressed by how comfy, cosy yet light and spacious the All American McMansion is.
McMansions are the pinnacle of housing. Don't let failed Jewish Commie Bloc Apt types fool you.
McMansion always becomes perfect house for:
Exec who hosts parties
Groups of starving students renting rooms
At home biz, everything from country doctor to contractor to daycare.
Extended Family.
Home Office.
not politics
They only build them to last 30 years because that's how long your typical mortgage is. The homes that were built 100+ years ago were meant to last as long as possible.
I know nothing about construction. What's supposed to be bad in this picture? I get that it shouldn't look like that, but why is it catastrophic?
Not true. At least one fifth lives in a high earthquake zone, while another two-fifths live in areas that could potentially see moderate earthquakes. There’s also a lot of the country that are exposed to tornados or hurricanes, and need to rebuild houses every so often.
rebar isn't supposed to be exposed like that and the surface is supposed to be smooth
My wood frame house was built in 1907 and still has plaster and lathe walls. The roof is fine. The supports are solid and lag bolted to the floor. Wood is an absolutely great building material. It is also relatively easy to fix if part of it get damaged.
>not politics
more politics than 90% of the catalog
That's why my home is 120 years old. I paid a fraction of the cost of a brand new home and have a house that has stood the test of time.
Because the American Experiment is almost complete.
Concrete is easy to repair. If you do a shit job with concrete, yeah you will get corrosion in your rebar, and you will get spalling of the concrete. Large cracks are easy to notice, and can be filled before anything like what happened in your picture happens. I know a lot about reinforced concrete, and it is a great and very long-lasting material.
>250854662
user you were molested by a construction worker... I’m sorry
You know all about woodies there frame boy
>that pic
good lord the comfort
Wood is cheap and quick to build with, and as long as you maintain the house it can last 100 years or more easily.
America is larger than all of Europe and has only been around for a couple centuries. If all of Europe had to be built in that time period they would probably use more wood too. The reduced material cost and cheaper land allows American homes to be larger on average as well.
That said, steel frame construction has been gaining popularity in the last decade or two.
>want to save money
There's nothing stop you from buying land and paying someone to make your home out of rocks. I think you'd probably think twice when you saw the material and labor cost, however. It would cost so much it would cheaper just to put the difference in a bank account and build a new house.
It's bad in Canada too
>spend $500000 on a house
>literal fucking styrofoam insulating the house
People who buy these houses are fucking tools
You've never built a house user, this is categorically false
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The bad in the picture is the rusted rebar. The issue with reinforced concrete, is as the concrete absorbs moisture over time, this will begin to rust the rebar which subsequently expands. The concrete will then crack and begin to crumble. As far as I’m aware concrete can be reinforced with materials which won’t have this adverse effect, but they cost a lot more so they are seldom used. The concrete will appear just fine for a long time before problems occur, so no one really gives a shit.
These threads are pretty stupid tbqh because there are no perfect and uncontested methods of construction. Different methods are suitable in different scenarios and are perfectly okay if they are applied properly.
I work in building maintenance and I’m not some expert surveyor or architect (most in those kinds of positions aren’t exactly experts either in my experience), but that’s just my take on things.
I would personally suggest the best way to go is to buy a property that’s several decades old. If there are any major, deal breaker type issues with the structure, they will have become apparent by now. So long as everything continues to be maintained appropriately then you can quite easily have yourself a house for life.
The problem is that new construction uses thinner beams and cheaper materials than the sturdy, overbuilt homes of the past. I don't know if it's possible to find people who still build buildings out of quality materials, but I'd like to have a proper, strong house built one day.