Some time ago, I realized we cannot depend on the Internet forever. It can be shut down and manipulated. So, I took it upon myself to develop a decentralized communications network, where we can have the same functionalities as on the Internet, such as communicate, send files (pictures, videos, memes, documents, payments, anything really) but that it does not rely on the Internet. Instead, it relies on LEGAL radio-based devices that act as nodes in a mesh network.
> TO JANNIES WHY IS THIS POLITICAL? Right now the Elites are about to pass something called the EARN IT bill (archive.is/3rWM7) which will prevent encrypted communications online if passed, and BeeChat is the solution to that problem, since it is encrypted at its core. It is also based on the ZigBee protocol, making it 100% legal to use without any license.
>WHO AM I To put it bluntly I want our future generations to be safe from the Elites and their NWO. I will stay on this thread for a bit to answer some questions and doubts. (no I am not a Q-tard)
I will release the first version in April, since I realize this technology could be truly a life saver during the current virus crisis (and coming recession). I am posting it on Yas Forums as it is the heart of the Internet. Anything that starts here eventually spreads to MSM and every corner of the Internet like wildfire. Be it left, or right, at this point it doesn't matter. The more nodes there are on the BeeChat network the better it performs.
>TLDR; The main concept is basically bringing cheap data-based radio dongles to everyone. I got a lot of questions last time I posted this, so in the next posts I will post the FAQs and answers to them.
To reiterate, I have made an emphasis to make it FREE, LEGAL, and OPEN SOURCE so it is on the public domain, as well as all the software stack being open source (bash, p7zip, openssl), thus hopefully spurring a community and potentially applications built on top of the basic BeeChat network comms layer, eventually replacing some functions of the Internet. Because, let's be honest, at the end of the day the Internet is not free as it was intended.
>What is the typical range for a message sent on BeeChat? It depends on the environment and dongle used, but, typically, from node to node the range is a couple of kilometers while outdoors, or several hundred meters indoors. The long explanation, is that there are different models of XBee radios. They all operate in one of two frequencies, either 868 Mhz or 2.4Ghz. The XBee model with longest range is the XBee XTend 900, with a range of 40 miles (64 kilometers) in the best of cases. This range decreases if there are trees, buildings or other barriers cutting off the signal. The benefit of ZigBee, is that if you want to reach Bob who is behind a mountain, and Greg is on top of the mountain, Greg’s device will act as a bridge between you and Bob.
>What is the bitrate and data transfer speed? BeeChat’s recommended XBee model is theDigi XBee 3 Zigbee® 3.0, has transfer speeds of 250 Kbps, a range of 2 miles/3.2 km and baud rate of 9600.
>Why should we trust this? As InfoWorld.com put it: “Open source also allows anyone to fix broken code, while closed source can only be fixed by the vendor. Over time this means open source projects (like the Linux kernel) tend to become more secure since more people are testing and fixing the code.” Essentially, you shouldn’t inherently trust any digital computing system, however, the fact the code is open source, means it is open for anyone to see if there are security flaws, and when they are found, the community will immediately get to work on improving it.
David Scott
Take your meds schizo
Zachary Cruz
>Realistically, anything can be hacked, right? What defense is there against this? When designing BeeChat, we decided it would be foolish to try to design everything in the program, and instead opted for the concept of BeeChat using other tools such asOpenSSL for encryption. As an example, OpenSSL has a massive community, as it is used in the private sector, by people, corporations and governments alike. That means any bug found within OpenSSL is quickly fixed by the community, and in case this happens all you have to do to be safe is update your system. In short, the main defense against hacks is relying on projects such as OpenSSL, Bash, and 7Zip’s large communities to have quick fixes to problems that may arise.
>What hardware is required? OS dependencies? Currently, the BeeChat software runs on Linux only. That being said, if your computer is able to handle it, you can install a lightweight Linux Virtual Machine on your Windows or Mac and run the software without any issues whatsoever. (click here to follow our guide)
>Does this run on mobile as well or what systems and OS are supported? Not at the moment, but we are planning on developing it once the software gains traction.
Nolan Ortiz
Zigbee has been around forever and it was not worthwhile, lorawan looked promising but the throughput is awful, how is BeeChat any better?
Connor Perez
My truck has a radio, I'll just use that instead.
David Myers
>This means that it can’t cross oceans, though? At least not on its own? It’s not likely, but theoretically, it could very well cross oceans. We would just need need more powerful nodes than the XBee’s available today, but it is possible to do it technically.
>How does the encryption work? specifically tell us how in detail does authentication work. See the How Does the BeeChat Encryption Work page for an explanation.
>Why not make the mesh using WiFi dongles? It would be possible, however an analogy to using WiFi for mesh networks is as if you were cutting a cake with a spoon. WiFi was not designed for mesh networking, meanwhile, ZigBee is a standard specifically designed for this process. To add to that, some 868 MHz modules can reach distances of up to 40 miles/ 64 kilometers with only 1 Watt. This is not possible with Wi-Fi. The BeeChat software is extremely simple and high level, meaning the mesh networking is done by the XBee radios themselves, and BeeChat glues all the tools such as OpenSSL, AESCrypt, XBee to make the human interface possible to use for human-to-human communication.
>What scheme of public key cryptography is being used? BeeChat requires OpenSSL’s ElGamal Diffie-Hellman for keypair generation. Although there are faster schemes, this scheme allows us to generate a Shared Secret to be able to encrypt a message symmetrically with AESCrypt.
>Is the compression before or after encryption? There is no compression for messages, only encryption. That being said, we do compress data and split it into parts with 7Zip before encrypting it if we are sending a file. So, when we do compress, it is before encryption.
>I don’t know much about radio, but I take it this can be done legally? Yes. XBee transceiver models are legal in the following locations:USA, Canada, EU, Japan Australia, New Zealand and Brazil.
>Will it be banned? It is unlikely, since BeeChat works on the ZigBee protocol, if BeeChat became banned, thousands of smart home devices would also need to be banned.
Andrew Robinson
>250 Kbps
fuck off, cant masturbate to shemale videos on thst shit
Isaiah Green
>Is there a way to use it without revealing your location? BeeChat doesn’t send your location data to any node, however, someone could try and triangulate your location if you are sending a large file over the air, but it would take time and there is no known method for doing this currently.
>Could we run some type of crypto payment network on it? Yes. We are already working on incorporating Bitcoin Lightning Network payments over BeeChat.
>Any plans to incorporate this into the Pinephone or Purism’s phone? Absolutely. Since BeeChat is Linux native, it would be entirely possible to make the dongle work for Pinephone and Purism’s phone. However, whether those companies decide to implement an XBee module inside their electronics is not something we can control.
That's the end of the FAQ's from last time. Any other questions please let me know...
Joseph Green
Absolutely based.
Joshua Hughes
I see it uses a newer version of zigbee, mite b cool
Benjamin Kelly
So when they figure out how to make it cross thousands of miles of ocean, im interested.
Kayden Murphy
>We are already working on incorporating Bitcoin Lightning Network payments over BeeChat.
LOL
Get fucked
Isaac Diaz
It's cjdns. On rus boards our anons investigated this against what we calling cybergulag. We will appreciate for your work
Yea this seems unnecessary when there it's even a windows client yet. Give normies a plug and play box to shitpost and they will lap it up
Kevin Morris
I looked at your site. I have used XBee years ago in a project. Like 11 years ago. Wow. Time flies! (so did the project I used xbee in) back then it was price competitive with BlueTooth, though now of course things like the ESP exists.
Here is my questions 1)If there is no one near me, the thing bridges through the internet to other networks of 'beechat'?
2) Will it use TCP/IP and some desktop software to tunnel? So still all web techs other than the modems?
3) When do you plan to release softrware?
4) Is this whole thing a borderline scam for affiliate sales from links to the parts list items or something similar? Looks too early stage to publicize to me. But that is a personal choice.
5) why not add your energy to other, similar projects with far larger penetration? I've seen a few over the years, but don't know their names off hand.
How is the low range and non-existant user base of such devices going to serve as a mesh network? Have you dont the study to figure out how many concurrent users the 250K bandwidth can provide? Xbee is spotty as fuck in my experience, though that was with old generation devices. Are they better now? P2P networking seems cool if you have lots of node redundancy, but that goal is super ambitious.
Maybe retool this as a product\software for use at festivals\events, or something? Sort of like the defcon 'badge life' style weasrable thing?
Austin Jenkins
Nice send me one for free please
Gabriel Cruz
There is some problems with your plan. First you need high frequencies to transmit large data (eg wifi) and you need a large source to transmit it far (eg cellular tower). With home setups low frequency is only possible, you can still get data, probably even pull off a non vid or large image chan, but it will never hit the current or even 90s internet.
Kayden Brooks
you're a hero Carlos
keep going the fight against satan will not be easy
Samuel Morales
bueno
Nicholas Hill
>don’t reference infowars when explaining ideas it's infoworld, not wars.
OP, if this is your project the github is empty and the 'click here for instructions to set up a linux vm' link doesn't exist.
Henry Nelson
Is it compatible with TempleOS?
Matthew Reyes
He just has links to the hardware. Super simple hardware you can get from amazon or ebay.
Joseph Davis
>InfoWars You nigger can't read. OP said InfoWorld
William Hernandez
>bash and openssl I like you user ! could you add a minumum key length ? say 6557 plus ?
Matthew Campbell
Can you use a better or different antenna than the one linked on the buy page? amazon.com/dp/B07KHVG8Q8 amazon.com/dp/B07TQ4Y47D What if no one is in range, no nodes close by? How do you find what you're looking for? Search engine? And what kind of software works for it, does it have a web browser mod for hosting websites and such?
>OpenSSL, AESCrypt Doesn't openssl have aes functionality ?
Adam Hall
I remember when the deep state tricked people into the honeypot of telegram. Remember the articles: > Oh no! Super secure messaging platform poses challenge to law enforcement > Oh no goyim, what will we ever do if all the bad guys USE THIS SUPER SECRET AND SECURE MESSAGING PLATFORM! > It is so secret and secure and safe, there is no way anyone at all can see what you send, how will law enforcement ever cope... Meanwhile that dog and pony show was simply because deep state had those fuckers popped from the getgo.
1) No, this works like a walkie talkie with data and mesh network. But I'm completely open to making internet gateways. I'm completely alone in this project, and it's a lot of coding for one person.
2) see 1)
3) Early April. Was planning April 1st or 2nd.
4) No, the links I posted to those links are the cheapest sources for the parts.
5) The only ones doing something similar are a company called gotenna, and everything is closed source, and their device uses BLE. The speeds they have are very slow, only 235 bytes 5 times per minute, meanwhile we can have 255 bytes per second (or more depends on the radio).
Yeah, I'm going to release it in early April.
Use any compatible antenna you want. The higher the dBi the longer the range of the signal of course.
Sorry, I copied from the FAQ page.
What is WHOIS protection? Lol
Nathan Richardson
>What is WHOIS protection? Lol You can pay to not have your personal business contact info on a domain, so WHOIS does not so easily dox you. I have no idea how 'secure' it is from any sort of legalistic inquires, civil or state.
David Carter
I was being sarcastic to the french user who said I'm from panama or some shit.
Jack Collins
what about the open source packages it relies on like openssl? couldnt they be fucked with?
Sebastian Anderson
You say you're on you own byt have refered to yourself as "we"
>There is no compression for messages, only encryption. That being said, we do compress data and split it into parts with 7Zip before encrypting it if we are sending a file. So, when we do compress, it is before encryption.
Granted could be a typo
Brayden Rivera
Not realistically. OpenSSL is supported by several thousand developers, it's almost impossible something major would get through like that
We, as in the academic we. And when I mention the BeeChat team, right now it's only me the sole developer
Jaxson Morales
Interesting... Fuckit ill build one just for giggles. When the bombs drop ill see you anons on BeeChan.
Charles Myers
Quickly glancing over only some of those could be enhanced with modern engineering. The very basics of digital RF is to take your data, encode it, and modulate it onto a carrier wave. The modulation aspect hasn't changed much yet encoding (which is also the hardest to explain) has improved/is understood more. I've used VHF networking and it's ok, good for getting simple data/sending commands for remote devices, but you won't be getting YouTube on it. And with a home VHF you might get 10km depending on your area.
Luis Taylor
you'll only see burger anons, no way I could transmit across the Atlantic
have you posted this on /g/ ? and have you considered using a live distro, effectively leaving no trace of use on the host machine after use ? If your guy's good he make make a custom one with LFS
Cooper Harris
It's encryption over RF illegal?
Juan Anderson
The issue is transfer speeds user. BeeChat has speeds of 250kbps, better than old 56k modems. Meanwhile you can't even get 250 bytes with VHF per minute reliably. ZigBee has been made for this
Benjamin Hall
>Muh mesh network How did you fix the bottleneck problem? Are you financed by China?
Dylan Young
Thanks for answering literally ONE of my questions faggot Fuck off to /g/ you greasy neckbeard Order canceled Telling my frens to cancel too Hope you're happy
Kek, good luck but it's never going to work. If you expect the networks to span areas larger than your home premises, the hidden node problem is going to kick your ass, because IEEE 802.15.4 does not have mechanisms for dealing with it, like IEEE 802.11 for example does. Unless maybe you have densely placed nodes and the distance to the PAN coordinator is not too great, but then you saturate the frequency, since all nodes have to be on the same channel to have the advantages you speak of.
Carter Anderson
Can wifi routers be rejiggered to work in a mesh? would make more sense to reuse existing tech in everyones home
Austin Perez
I don't know about that. Quick search shows that there is some standard for having 802.11 mesh but I can't say too much about it.
Jackson Bennett
>802.11 mesh Sounds like it's already an IEEE standard, 802.11s and even implemented in the Linux kernel and OpenWRT en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11s
Jaxson Hughes
That depends on the laws of your country, I am more of a tech guy than a legal one. I think on Canada it's illegal, but there could be a clever way around it. Zigbee has almost no range, that's the problem. You can get up to 100k with VHF, it's seen it with my own two eyes. I think what you want to be looking into is freewave not ZigBee. Freewave can travel 10 times further than Zigbee for reference.
Ryder Turner
I actually had a similar idea once, but based on using the moon as a radio bounce. for wide area networking. I dont know if you could use xbee protocols for that or if the latency is too large or something.
Mason Perry
>transfer speeds of 250 Kbps
yea i don't think chinks or nips will be uploading anime, manga and jav rips at that speed
never going to take off, this is just for schizo pedos
Matthew Clark
It's already being done and sold. Unifi uses it in their AP's so you don't have to pull cables in difficult areas.
Aaron Hughes
Not a bad idea, make a fork of OpenWRT that can support an XBee dongle...
Owen Brown
so if i want to share a 1mb file with someone a hundred steps away, the network transfers 100mb of data in total to get my file to them? how is 250 Kbps enough for this?
