Doesn’t mean we should take corona lightly. But killing the economy for something that may be 10 to 20 times less harmful than the flu is pretty idiotic. Using just masks and social distancing while everyone goes to work will likely not significantly increase the rate of infections. German epidemologists say that without any measures, 1 corona infected hands the virus to 3 more... with just handwashing it is down to 2, with social distancing and masks it is below 1 even if everyone goes to work again.
Below 1 infected by 1 new infected means the curve of active cases goes down.
It takes a rational nation like the Germans to realize this is indeed a hoax.
Italians are not known for their efficiency or cleanliness, which is why their death rate is much higher.
James Jackson
It's so tiring that NPC just can't get their brains to understand exponential growth. But that's just natural selection at this point, so please, continue.
Jayden Cruz
>everyone shelters cowering in their rooms for two weeks, to avoid catching or spreadig the virus >the virus kills relatively few people and even shows signs of slowing down Oh yes, total nothingburger. PLEASE come out and play, user.
you are a retard even the article says it's retarded
stop posting retarded shit that is blatantly false
Easton Sanders
It all started with China panicking and spreading exaggerated numbers. Left-wing burgers loved the idea of a crisis because 'muh Drumpf.' Tech and media companies made a fuck ton of money, so they had no interest in toning down the seriousness of the 'crisis.' Even public radio got bailed out with the stimulus package, so they kept reporting the fake news. No one wants to listen to skeptics here.
Fuck Corona.
Brayden Smith
good, now the next step is to sanction the stupid fucking shitalians for starting a panic
Jordan Ortiz
Hans, you realize that we aren’t growing exponentially any more? We are already at a 1 to 1 infection ratio if not below.
>PLEASE come out and play, user. You realize I said the opposite in my OP?
Isaac Murphy
Why don’t people like you read the OP first? The point is that even before Germany’s “lockdown”, the rate of infected has gone to 1 to 1 or below. Nobody says to stop social distancing, actually we should start to wear masks in public, everyone. But we can go to work and open shops.
Hudson Morris
But what the fuck can we do at this point?! I have a very bad stomach feeling about all of this. EVERYBODY who is educated in economics knows, that we are FUCKING DONE. This literal nothingburger is nothing but a tool to collapse our economy for the "Ermächtigung" of the elites and we can't do shit about it. I'm in my mid-twenties, have marriage-material at hand, wanted to have kids soon and now it seems everything is just going to shit, before I even have a chance to pass on my genes to the next generation.
It's almost like social distancing measures work really well
Evan Taylor
>exponential growth >take measures >no more exponential growth >'it's just the flu, bro'
Schizo
Ethan Lewis
Its a tool to move into socialism. If you prioritise healthcare over economy, you end up like Cuba. Germany after Corona will be more like Cuba (except for the weather).
As an investor this is a fantastic long/short opportunity. I have opened a 500k short in eurostoxx etf.
Christian Carter
you are a fucking idiot
there are 10,000 influenza virii per square foot
there are 10,000 corona virii per square kilometer
you need a human to intersect with the virus for there to be an infection, and death is much more likely than influenza
its unlikely that if everyone goes to work again, social distancing can be maintained
Ayden Cook
Rather the Chinese, they started it and they knew exactly what they were doing. This whole outbreak might have been planned and coordinated as a global attack on western economies.
Isaiah Flores
I'm also invested and think you're right user. But I fear, none of our investments will be worth anything if socialism has been implemented. Perhaps you're not even allowed to own stocks or any other speculative assets as a retail in the near future. We've seen f.e. the Finanztransaktionssteuer a few months ago, which clearly was the first step making stocks unattractive to retails and I fear more restricitions are to come without any way other than to obey to the elites in the end.
The US is delayed because of the China travel ban. It too will go flat. It's already starting to curve downward.
Juan Nguyen
>it was never going to go exponential >Same number of people globally would have died if nothing was done >"Thanks to swift action by governments the total number of deaths was minimized!" You're faggots, you got played by the media, and I hope you get the real flu and puke/shit yourself to death.
Julian Ramirez
We're seeing a level of deception here that many people cannot even begin to comprehend.
Hunter Gonzalez
The schizoids don’t come to Yas Forums for moderate and reasonable views. They come here coz they’re morbidly depressed or high AF and want to indulge in doom and conspiracies. Pls. Take your rationality and reason and leave
Nolan Scott
>It takes a rational nation like the Germans Co kurwa? Ever heard of german romanticism or idealism? Germans are opposite of rationality.
Matthew Garcia
In what direction?
Stats say we are at a flat increase, not an exponential one.
Luis Allen
>you got played by the media This was the media a while back.
We don’t know how deadly the virus is. They’re only just starting to do blood tests for antibodies now.
We may discovered that millions have already had it. In which case, corona will be the biggest nothing burger of the century.
Conversely, the blood tests may show nobody has it...
Liam Williams
Yes, its a conspiracy and the world just shut down for fun.
Learn maths.
Benjamin Long
except palermo
Nicholas Butler
the flu doesn't spread from host to host and knocks you out for 2 weeks. you are a fucking retarded nigger.
Brody Hughes
also their is a vaccine for the flu
Chase Wilson
I hope so.
Thank's friend. :)
Benjamin Flores
>knocks you out for 2 weeks.
sometimes it does
Thomas Murphy
That's not how statistics work. Compare like-for-like.
Let's see how many people die of the flu between now and the end of the year, where the whole fucking world is on lockdown. Lockdown means the spread of all disease drops.
Colton Brooks
A flu can knock you out brutally.
I probably had the flu or corona, but it was mild. Didn’t go to the doc, just kept working.
Jace Foster
It is tho. There are 4 strains of flu. It’s not omnipotent. A mutated strain has to move through a community, just like what corona is doing now.
OPs point is that by the time a newly mutated stain of the flu had moved through the community, it had killed a lot more.
Thomas Jackson
If the number of people who die of the flu between March and December 2020 exceeds the number of people who die of COVID-19 between March and December 2020, then flufags were right.
But it's very likely that's not going to be the case, and they're very likely going to be proven idiotically wrong
Jacob Perez
soon they will realize that they cant go to wörk either when they whole country into lockdown.. it will be chaos
Logan Parker
>close bars,clubs,restaurants,hotels,theater,opera,museums + all other public or people gathering places >dont allow people to gather with more than 2 people in public >hospitals are working extra hard to find contacts from the sick people
>wow you see, its just a 1:1 infection ratio, no biggie
Nolan Cruz
That's a bad argument and confirmation bias. It's the same argument doomsday sayers use when their prophecies fail - god heard our prayers! And people go on believing. What we'll really have to do to know for sure is to watch Swedefags/Mexico/etc and other countries that aren't doing fucking anything to stop it and if it turns out to be another flu I'll LMAO.
Joshua Smith
>If the number of people who die of the flu between March and December 2020 exceeds the number of people who die of COVID-19 between March and December 2020 thats because of the massive quarantine and lockdown happening worldwide for the coronavirus. without the lockdown, shit will get much much severe. youre too much of a retarded nigger to figure that out.
Adam Cooper
German doctors: There is no new virus only a new test - it's a scam and the hysteria and lockdown is about control not health. You are being had BIG-TIME
The nwo will make this "nothingburger" into a happening believe me
James Martinez
Well, you have to keep in mind that the numbers given out by the RKI aren't entirely accurate and there's a significant number of cases that are never diagnosed. Therefore, the actual number of active cases currently is probably around half a million, which puts the death rate way below even 1%.
Anyway, what I meant by deception is moreso the fact that clearly, certain groups have ulterior motives that they're pursuing, such as Bill Gates with his ID2020 project, for example. I'm not saying that this disease isn't real, don't get me wrong, I'm just proposing the idea that the response to it is a) blown way out of proportion and b) the current situation is used as cover for nefarious activities.
This is looking like a huge pile of nothing to me.
Owen Allen
Germans are pragmatists. People don't think it's a hoax, if anything it's under control because everyone has been taking the measures seriously. It's just we're not planning on putting our lives on hold for the rest of the year, especially now that we're winning.
Samuel Flores
>Doch der Vergleich hinkt. Also dein ganze Post ist negerjiddische Lügerei, Schlomo.
>Therefore, the actual number of active cases currently is probably around half a million, which puts the death rate way below even 1%. DOUBT
We are testing nearly randomly in many highly infected regions and our positive test ratio is still 1 to 10 or even 1 to 20... compared to Spain/Italy where the majority of tests return positive.
Or in other words, we are doing nearly randomized population testing, so our reported cases should not significnatly deviate from actual cases... we are at 50k official cases and probably not more than 100k real cases.
Jose Hernandez
Aha, und was genau? Hast Du den Absatz gelesen oder nicht?
—- Doesn’t mean we should take corona lightly. But killing the economy for something that may be 10 to 20 times less harmful than the flu is pretty idiotic. Using just masks and social distancing while everyone goes to work will likely not significantly increase the rate of infections. German epidemologists say that without any measures, 1 corona infected hands the virus to 3 more... with just handwashing it is down to 2, with social distancing and masks it is below 1 even if everyone goes to work again.
Logan Roberts
>Scheisse, ein Exponential growth jetzt uber mein Haus geflugt!
Christian Young
You do realize this is limited by amount of testing right?
Jackson Jones
>If the number of people who die of the flu between March and December 2020 exceeds the number of people who die of COVID-19 between March and December 2020, then flufags were right.
Let's see what the numbers are. They're saying COVID-19 isn't any more worthy of worry than the flu is right now, but we will know that soon.
>by the time a newly mutated stain of the flu had moved through the community, it had killed a lot more
Like the 1918 flu? Then "COVID-19 is about as dangerous as the 1918 flu" is probably fairly accurate, yeah.
The OP's article contradicts his point:
>In addition, the number of 25,000 flu deaths is estimated. It results from the calculation of the so-called over-mortality. The reason is that it is often not clear whether someone has died of flu or pneumonia, for example. This applies in particular to people with previous illnesses and the elderly.
It's people who died and had the flu, not people who definitely died of the flu. It was particularly virulent, but didn't spread and had known treatments. Yes, if this flu managed to spread to the whole world and we didn't have enough treatments or capacity, maybe we'd also be on lockdown right now. What's your point?
Reread my post. I'm agreeing with you
Reread my post. Compare like for like. You're comparing different situations and different times.
Let's see the number of flu deaths between now and December 2020 and compare it to the number of COVID-19 deaths. If COVID-19 deaths are 5x higher, then you can objectively say the fatality rate is 5x higher than the flu's.
Joshua Reyes
Not in all countries. In Italy, Spain, the UK, the US yes.
Not in Germany, Switzerland, Korea etc. These countries kept the ratio of 1 positive to 10 tests and more which is a good indicator of excess test capacities.
Elijah Gray
It's like cold season in the northern hemisphere is coming to an end... I fucking knew it would end up like this. Watch it either die out, or migrate south in its last breath where it will mutate in last ditch efforts to survive in warming climates.
Mason Brooks
dude what, we have been in voluntary lockdown and social distancing since 2 weeks, we just hit phase 3 today and government work just shutted down readying for impact.
seems like we did more than the US
Matthew Ortiz
Again, to be clear:
You have to compare the deaths of the flu between now and December with the deaths of COVID-19 between now and December. If you're not comparing that, then you're not providing useful information.
Samuel Carter
>I'm not saying that this disease isn't real, don't get me wrong, I'm just proposing the idea that the response to it is a) blown way out of proportion and b) the current situation is used as cover for nefarious activities. This. Hoax autists are just blinded by their own binary thinking. Corona being real and everyone milking the everloving fuck out it (aka blowing it out of proportion and nefarious activities) are not mutually exclusive.
Henry Russell
>global pandemic >enact unprecedented lockdown and social distancing measures in order to slow the spread of the virus >virus spread slows down >see guys the virus isn't contagious these measures are unreasonable
I knew exactly that this shit would happen people coming out of the woodwork saying its a nothingburger when austria locked down like two weeks before anybody else.
Brandon Gonzalez
Holy FUCK, you are american to the fucking core. Look at the axis you retarded redneck. It is not linear. You are on a fucking exponantial curve right now and too stupid to even understand it.
Die off and make the world a better place
Matthew Gomez
Increasing testing is more likely to decrease fatality rate than increase it - I doubt many people are going to be misdiagnosing based on symptoms alone.
Lincoln Scott
There are plenty of papers out there suggesting that anywhere from 30 to 80% of cases are asymptomatic and therefore never diagnosed.
Testing of people who did not return from high risk areas only began a few days ago, anway.
Liam Reyes
>Doesn’t mean we should take corona lightly. >may be 10 to 20 times less harmful than the flu is lol read what you wrote Matumba ben Gurion
i hate virtue signaling german cunts almost as much as the kikes.
All fucking day top "news" stories are parroting how the Germans are accepting extremely ill corona patients from the rest of europe.
It is literally a dozen patients only and the germans get wall to wall coverage for it.
do something that matters and start up the fourth reich.
Alexander Nguyen
>It's just we're not planning on putting our lives on hold for the rest of the year, especially now that we're winning. Wrong. We'll be doing what is neccessary, and we don't know what that is yet, so the entire sentence you said is pointless.
kek. everyone who believes coronavirus is anything is a 80 iq subhuman. democracy and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Owen Cruz
>not understanding the numbers on the y axis the absolute state of american education
Chase Barnes
Yes, that's the point. On a linear graph it should appear exponential and on an exponential graph it should appear linear - except it's not linear on the exponential graph; hence it's no longer exponential.
Robert Evans
The entire West is waking up to the fact that we are not invincible, virus’s exist and will kill you. The medical establishment has made little progress in protecting the at risk from death from disease like virus. Bill Gates was quoted as saying that western medicine can currently cure any ailment but shouldn’t and doesn’t otherwise we wouldn’t kill off the useless eaters.
Lincoln Morris
>We'll be doing what is neccessary >and we don't know what that is yet we kinda do and it's kinda working, hence people questioning if more drastic measure are necessary
flu in Itealy kills 8000 on average with 20k+ at peaks.
Jayden Reed
We're the only ones who clean their asses after we take a shit, Germany is hiding real death figures, they are much lower than the rest of the world, also being polish you should probably not talk about other countrie's inefficiency, just saying...
Ian Cook
the US line looks pretty linear to me
Isaac Watson
>There are plenty of papers out there suggesting that anywhere from 30 to 80% of cases are asymptomatic and therefore never diagnosed. We test people without symptoms when they come in contact with infected. Look at Merkel.
Jacob Thomas
When are you gonna explain DIamond Princess, bitch?
Ayden Perez
As you've surely heard, the current measures will remain in place at least until April 20th. This is going to wreak absolute havoc on our economy and create a societal fallout that is many times worse than this virus.
Brayden Hill
I observe a slight deflection in a downward direction.
that's still exponential growth, which was the original point. guess you proved wrong that it was 3-4 days, but you also proved yourself wrong thanks for playing
