Not my Ancestor. :(

Evolution thread.

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Do creationists claim that evolution is impossible?

They believe it's unbiblical but can't bring themselves to the truth. t. Deist.

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what relevance would God have to a deist? what's the point? why not be an ignostic

There's definitely an ultimate creator.

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the argument of contingency is the best one for God's existence

Derrrrr

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That's best defined by the present.

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Why would the creator leave his creation? What'd be the point.

There is no proof of evolution between kind, “The missing link.” Believing in evolution takes more faith than believing in God creating the world. Carbon dating my ass. When God created Adam and Eve they were made as adults, not babies. They were made then and there with age built into them, just like the trees and animals and all of the earth. It had age built into it immediately. The fool says I’m his heart there is no God.

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I doubt he has. His legacy is a part of us.

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>You are automatically an atheist if you believe in evolution.

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>what is survivorship

the creator doesnt need to be intimately involved with everything
>creates universe and just lets it be

My belief is that the creator knows he would upset the balance if he was to constantly interfere.

Convergent evolution proves platonic form, which in turn proves God in the expanded and theistic definition.

Still can't escape the creator argument, though. How does something come from nothing. Material must come from the immaterial.

Does the sun “leave” a reflection when it sets?

There is no creator. We exist as the collision of random events which become more ordered in local space until the ultimate demise of our entropic death.

>creator
Do you mean a god?

>most powerful entity kown in the universe
>makes retarded apes that tortures everything they see

Wtf is the point

If you mean aliens i might agree for a sinister theory about us terraforming the planet to make it habitable for them or something

Are you implying Genesis is just poetic language and God created life through evolution? Again, where’s the missing link? There’s no proof of any evolution from one kind to another, just micro which doesn’t prove Darwin’s theory. He even knew it was all BS.

This. Though convergent evolution is often shaped by the environment, it shows there is structure that cannot be explained by a godless random reality. This also proves there could be similar life elsewhere to ourselves.

Macroevolution is usually achieved by hybridisation or genetic drift.

Source?

What was the first event. How did it came to be and what from? Was it material? How?

Source?

Aliens give us tech in exchange for them terraforming Earth to their needs.

He IS his creation.

Gotta need sauce on that

Speciation is Macroevolution by definition and many thousands of instances of Speciation have been directly observed in laboratory and field settings.
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You lose.

Not clicking that shit nigga

Though personally, I don't think evolution should be considered micro or macro, rather a spectrum of genetic change.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_drift

Yes it's easier to believe in a man in the sky and the actual complex nature of how life came about
>the answers to the biggest questions are always so simple
>Proof of God based on what some other fuckwad that knows no more than you said
Its 2020 grow the fuck up and stop believing in fairy tales

No, they think adaptation is possible and small changes happen but that macro evolution isn't proven by fossil records. A bunch of them push the idea that rock layering doesn't represent the earths surface at various points with millions of years between but that it represents underwater mudflows from the flood.

Do more research, I refuse to fill in every gap for you, that is your job. I am aware Norway like Japan produces many pdfs from Whale study. Read through more papers and come to your own conclusions.

Do you support the bonobo-boar hybrid origins of humanity theory?

le bathtub fishe ancestore

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No. But he's into something. There is many uncanny similarities between Humans and Porcines but it could be convergent.

Sounds like someone with weak sauce

Sweet

What are dogs? Do you seriously think that nature can't select the way we did with dogs? Over the course of millions of years of natural selection insane things will happen.

Nigger, I have had a Teacup chihuahua fit into the palm of my hand. We know that shit came from a wolf. Are you retarded?

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Atheism
>There was nothing
>Then there was something
>Then there was our solar system
>Then there was Earth
>Then there was a chemical soup that gave rise to amino acids
>Then complex molecules and proteins and such form into the first unicellular life
>Then the mitochondria is formed
>Then complex multicellular life

Christianity
>First there was nothing
>Then there was God
>Then there was everything

What missing link? There's a large amount of "missing links", which one do you want us to find? Because every time we find one missing link, it doesn't fill in the rest of them.

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Here is an example of convergent evolution.

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Based Tiktaalik impersonator.

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You go, grandpa!

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My ancestor :)

Did that Carp do it by itself?

Why do people still doubt evolution?

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Fun fact, this is a Hoofed Mammal.

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Speciation is a man made term that doesn’t objectively exist. Species also do not objectively exist. The once golden rule of “they aren’t able to breed with each other and have fertile offspring” is broken time and time again. So congrats on showing your “speciation”, AKA a bacteria draws from its junk DNA to be able to produce a new enzyme it couldn’t before. You claim this minuscule changes can create fully novel organ systems if given enough time but that is pure fiction.

Because people keep giving collection money.

Technically, yes. Whales are more closely related to hippos than other mammals, and hippos are hooved. They share a recent-ish common ancestor.

Real life is weird like that. Look at the primate family tree, for example. We share a common ancestor with lemurs from before the dinosaurs went extinct.

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Actually, it can over a long enough timescale.
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It took 3 billion years for complex multicellular life to arise out of single celled organisms. It literally took 3x as long for multicellular life to appear than it took for life to appear. And a billion years is already too large for a human mind to truly grasp the scale of.

However, once multicellular life appeared, it didn't take that long for the rest of life to appear, and that's because of how absurdly complex plants/animals/fungi are. There are a million and one things that can go wrong in an organism's evolutionary chain, and that's why evolution kicked into overdrive in the Cambrian Era, as well as every era past that.

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Why do you believe any of the fairy tales this worthless society tells you?

evolution is fake and gay

Wonder what benefited haplorhiny over strepsirrhiny.

Because I'm not a jaded egoist who values himself above everyone else like some edgy 14 year old?

Says the person who didn't evolve lmao

No but you are retarded, I was explaining a position someone else held nkt my own, hence using the word they. Perhaps you should learn to read before you go calling people retarded.

You don't just believe evolution, you study it.

Atheism
>we don't know what happened, but let's try to find out
Christianity
>we already know everything stop trying to research things, also cover up these inconvenient facts

>No, they think adaptation is possible and small changes happen but that macro evolution isn't proven by fossil records. A bunch of them push the idea that rock layering doesn't represent the earths surface at various points with millions of years between but that it represents underwater mudflows from the flood.

This. This is about as reasonable as they get without straight up just denying everything. They can at least rearrange reality into this cute little narrative that still barely makes sense, but it's for them to fucking COPE with their non-existent God stroking their egos.

> Are you retarded?

You're shooting the fucking messenger as always. He conveyed what someone else believes. not what he does. Learn to fucking read Yas Forums.

Bible literalists are some of the lowest IQ people on earth, and they retard humanity's spiritual evolution. They are enemies of God and spirituality.

Larger brains, I'm guessing.

Also, location matters a lot. Islands usually have some weak ass fauna due to not having many evolutionary pressures like apex predators.

No, you’re not. Believing in theistic evolution is a thing

Kinda. We know the general beats, but we don't know the rest of the story. It's like having the Sparknotes version of a book vs the actual book.

Because the religious and mystical people are too invested, emotionally, financially, physically, spiritually in their world view to have anything challenge it. If people believed in what disproves the existence of God than why pay some pastor to tell you how to behave for God? That pastor wants his tax-free income and ability to rape little kids with abandon so everything that goes against him is a lie.

Don't you hate it that they keep forcing this macro vs micro evolution meme? Literally everyone besides creationists just uses the singular type of evolution, but they try to chop it up into tiny bits to deny small segments of evolution because they can't deny the rest of it.

Strepsirrhines were found in most of the world in the Eocene, perhaps Haplorhines exchanged a good sense of smell with more complex brains.

"The missing link" is about as stupid as an argument as measuring a coastline. The only way to totally fill it is to have the every bone of literally every animal ever and to slowly track changes and like sets. We have plenty of evidence to suggest what happened, even without being able to measure every quark of a coastline.

That's a bit of a cynical take. I think there are some true believers, and I think they're smart-ish people, or at least they're midwits. However, just like conspiracy theorists, they tend to overestimate their intuition and undervalue outside opinion. It's like flat Earth conspiracies, or faux moon landing conspiracies, or 9/11 conspiracies, or Sandy Hook, and so on. They're well meaning true believers, I have no doubt, I just think they're missing the forest for the trees.

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