You don't become immune when you "recover" from coronavirus

>Two military personnel test positive for coronavirus again after full recovery

>SEOUL, March 29 (Yonhap) -- Two military personnel, who had been reported to have fully recovered from the new coronavirus, have tested positive again, the defense ministry said Sunday.

>An Army officer based in Yongin, some 50 kilometers south of Seoul, and an Air Force contractor in the southeastern city of Daegu have tested positive while in a preventive quarantine after leaving the hospital, according to the ministry.

>Both were reported to have fully recovered from the virus on March 20. They have been in quarantine again at a hospital since Friday, it said.

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bad testing?

but i'm sure the first test was a false positive or whatever the preferred spin is from people who don't want to acknowledge that coronavirus is like airborne herpes

Why would anyone assume you gain immunity? Do you only get the flu once in your whole life or many times?

>Two
Holy fuck. I hope you lads have enough toilet paper.

Because it’s different strains of flu. COVID currently only has 2 mutations. Over the past thousands of years, the flu has mutated countless times.

You fucking retard. There are several flu variants, you do become immune once you've had a specific cold or flu. Read how your immune system works you stupid fucking faggot.

>SEOUL
Its already been proven that every single one of China's testing kits are faulty. This is a nothing burger.

People get the sick from the same strain multiple times, retards. Not just the flu, but many kinds of viruses. It's not like blocking a domain name on you browser.

Already at least hundreds of variants and unknown if the categorization into two main branches is useful. The flu can alter a tiny bit to counter previously working antibodies. The antibodies for this may work for all coronaviruses or a limited subset and we don't know how long the immunity lasts.

So its just going to keep making us sick till our lungs stop functioning.

Thanks China.

This is not new,cvg had alreads several cases and case studies that talked about this,that is the reason why UK abandoned the herd immunity strategy.

if the coronavirus offered immunity upon recovery, then the people who have already recovered would be free to go about their business during these lockdowns.. but they're still as locked down as the rest of us because they know that there is no recovery

These niggas ain't heard of antibodies

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40 strains

Nope. Learn something for once you absolute faggy

Only America, France and Sweden. Everyone else in the civilized world had quick local responses. Only Americans whined about the federal government not doing their jobs for them while their country was eaten by bat AIDS.
Italy is not that bad compared to what's coming for the tranny alliance.

how many people would be dead in Italy now if not for their quick response?

its airborne aids pneumonia. you'll have it for the rest of your life

Wishful thinking and wanting to sound smart, mostly.

No that's wrong u retard. Even ebola survivors develop immunity

This is a stupid trope.
NOBODY IS IMMUNE TO GETTING REINFECTED, EVER, NOT EVEN VACCINES DO THIS.
The only thing you get is a faster response.
Unless this is killing the reinfected, this is literally NOTHING BURGER.

after you fight off an infection, your memory T cells are what is responsible for recognizing the same infection in the future. Some T cells do not last as longa s other T cells, or some virus mutate their surface antigens so quickly that memory T cells initial response is useless.

You antibodies cannot always save you. infact sometimes they can kill you. This "cytokine" storm has been noted int his disease.

explain it to him, o' wise one.

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>Airforce contractor
Haha based fuck contractors

The nasal swab test is only ~78% accurate and the throat swab is even less than that. If they tested negative after they "recovered," that doesn't mean they were actually negative.

Where'd you learn this, BS? Fagschool?

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The US is a federal system, and the federal government by law cannot force states to go into lock down. Trump has equivocated on the seriousness of this virus and often seems to be thinking that the economy is more important than getting the virus under s. As a consequence, many states with Republican governors and strong support for Trump are not doing anything. Most states controlled by the Democrats are doing the lock down. It's just chaos, and I don't think that Trump has the power to force a national solution.

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Are we still doing two or three tests to confirm the diagnosis?

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That's the whole point of vaccinations. You become immune to a specific strains of influenza using inactive virions. If your body cannot build up immunity, either from getting sick or through vaccinations, then it indicates it's impossible for the immune system to fully overcome.

taking plasma from patients recovered from covid and giving it to patients still fighting covid cures the sick covid patient. that means that the plasma carries antibodies that kill coronavirus. in order to make antibodies we have to mount a complete immune response including the formation of memory b cells, the antibodies producing cells. upon re-exposure and activation, those memory b cells proliferate and produce new antibodies. this is the basis of acquired immunity.

vs. chink tests with shitty reagents giving false negative then false positive results

fuck you both, your argument is irrelevant

when you catch the measles, it kills the cells that hold your "viral" memory for immunity, and your body needs to learn everything again

sounds like COVID does the same thing

normally when you get the flu you're immune to that strain and similar ones for months
coronavirus seems to mutate very quickly and can reinfect you a week later
if it ever goes away at all - like HIV !

It sounds like we need to be able to test for the antibodies or something that indicates that the antibodies are present, and we would need to test many, many, many people.

Does that mean that developing therapeutic drugs would be more important that working on vaccines?

nobody even checked ur quads friend :(

>and after about the 100th report that someone fully recovered got it again we began to wonder if there was something to the trend

it would do, or just take your chances

Can someone who believes this explain how your immune system kills the virus then days later immediately forgets how to defend against it and then gets infected again? I've yet to hear a valid explanation other then muh aids or muh get infected over and over until muh die

No, it doesn't

They were first hit, nobody in the west took it seriously until it became serious in Italy in a tourist heavy area. They responded quickly after that but still too late. Americans won't agree on anything and won't give anyone authority so no real response will ever come. They'll die from Trump derangement syndrome.
You've tested positive for media induced mental retardation. A much more serious epidemic that's been ravaging the world for decades. This is why we need more global infectious disease prevention, to prevent cases like yours from spreading.

Its because it isn't happening. "Double infections" make for good headlines but have been one offs due to bad testing

Bioweapon keeps mutating?

my guess is that once they develop the antibodies test they will suddenly realize that the prevalence of covid is like 80-90% and that what was going around in january was actually covid

sounds like you bought the vax bs they were shilling. Old fag here, haven't had a VAX since a child in the 70s when I was too young not too. Not as much as a tetanus or flu shot as an adult. I survived scarlet fever, chicken pox, pneumonia and I will survive this shit too. I haven't changed my life one bit since this started and dont plan to. There is a lot to be said about heard immunity and letting evolution play out.

The meek will inherit shit

Chink WuFlu is the common cold, you will get it again

Dude they are tracking the mutations, it mutates alot slower then the flu from what has been seen

Fake news. The people retesting positive weren't fully recovered.

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I didn't say nobody develops any immunity. Most people will develop SOME degree of immunity through producing antibodies. You may be less sick the second time around, but you can get any viral strain more than once.

They were RECOVERED, because recovered means you don't have symptoms. But you're right, it doesn't mean they were ever totally clear of virus, and in this case, we know they weren't

You can still test positive for a virus after symptoms have stopped you moron. You can still have virus in your system even if it's not making you sick

No, I don't have TDS. I think that the Obama administration was out to get Trump and the investigations and impeachment were nonsense. Trump won, and he should be allowed to govern. Trump is doing a good ob with trade and immigration. But he's not perfect, and he isn't doing a great job with the virus. He's listening too much to that idiot Kudlow and his idiot son in law Kushner and not enough to Fauci. Birx seems to think that everyone will act responsibly with this which is completely delusional.

Quite possible.

Things should be done state by state and Trump should be advocating for the economy. States waiting for fed guidance is almost like if Italy waited for EU bankers in Brussels to save them.

muh h-herd im-immunity?

probably not true. a study of sars one showed at least several years of immunity. this virus is very similar and prolly works the same way.

The point of the "immunity" is to catch whatever it is before it becomes detrimental to the health of the individual by quickly producing the right "fit" WBCs because it doesn't have to go through the entire process to produce the WBCs with the right antibodies.

trump wants more immigration and is increasing it right now. he totally sold out, wake up.

I cant buy into this yet. The chinks who tested again a month later were more promising proof. I think we dont fully grasp how long it takes to recover.

I better clarify. I know you can catch corona strains left and right, there are 40. Im leaning on reinfection being a probability but wont base it on fact until a month goes by from a negative like in China.

COVID is part 1.
Once part 2 is released, the bodies hit the floor.
Don't get infected.

What? You mean bacterias funguses and viruses evolve faster than macroorganisms?
Shocking!

Fuck all you idiots

This makes sense, too. More than reinfection. A virus can lie dormant for a long time, like herpes, and suddenly flare up for another round. The full recovery time for corona could be a life of re flare ups, like herpes, only one round could be the one that kills you.