I'd like to hear what people have to say on the topic of suicide. It seems to be a very illogical act with zero upside. The suicide rate in the USA has also been increasing. But why do people still do it?
Why do people commit suicide
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Depression
perception of nothing to look forward to mixed with the human conditional need for instant gratification. In this case, they end it to make the current pain of existing go away. I'm very glad that i've never been like that.
I see.
Interesting. I haven't heard it put that way. It makes sense.
because some deeply believe that their life will never improve. and for some, it won't. only a transformation of how that person perceives their life purpose can save them
>only a transformation of how that person perceives their life purpose can save them
I 100% agree
what makes your life so good anyways?
The fact I'm still alive and able to pursue my goals is good enough reason for me at the moment.
what are some of your goals
Lots of reasons. Depression or mental illness, shame, problems with health fear of future or aware of bad future ie prison.
It's something we should talk people out of but allow legally. It's a right to die.
Why should we be allowed to refuse medical treatment but not end our lives?
Maybe cancer round 4 is too much. Maybe you lost your job. What ever it is everyone should be clear minded allowed to choose a breaking point.
death won't improve anything too lol
They feel as if their existence is an unnecessary burden on others.
t. survivor
When you suffer emotionally to an extent that it begins to ruin your life (regardless of the mental disorder), you lose the ability to rationally see the future in any hopeful way. And either out of guilt, or hopelessness, or just to escape the incomprehensibly intense emotional pain, the only right decision seems to be to end it all. If suicide rates are increasing, then some conditions of our current society allow for people to be affected in these ways. Blame it on capitalism, or technology, or degenerate media, or fucked up parents, or Jewish tricks, something isn't right and we all know that.
same reason you go to sleep retard
some people just dont want to wake up
When emotional pain exceeds coping resources.
I'll never understand why more people don't at least attempt to rob a bank, or take an evil person they know with them. Cowards.
We need more Marvin Heemeyer's in this world.
I have one goal in particular that I'm passionate about that I work at everyday but I won't share it on the Internet simply because I doubt many people on here would understand it.
trips of truth. that's why the entire topic of suicide interests me because suiciders don't know where they're headed but they're under the influence that it's going to be a better place then where they are today.
Well im less than zero i actually take away from whatever im added to. So my death would be a overall gain for everyone
>...Cowards
Why do you think they commit suicide in the first place? They feel trapped and just give up rather than changing their way of thinking and acting.
for me, I nearly suicide because of mental issues. I got helped and survived but many don't.
>same reason you go to sleep retard
Suicide and a normal person going to sleep are two very different things, retard.
how do you know? have you died before?
There's this chap I know who had cerebral palsy and graduated recently with a masters from a prestigious university and offed himself recently. No one really knows why.
sounds good faggot
When I was younger I never would have even imagined I would ever consider it but I have been beaten down and literally attacked so much that honestly I can now see why people do it.
When you have the ability to calculate every outcome possible for the next few years and reach constantly correct conclusions.
that's a good way to put it actually.
>zero upside
that's where you're wrong faggot
>nothing to lose
>no hope
>no future
I give myself 5 years before I rope
Ah good to know you know what comes upon death, faggot! Please enlighten us all and let us know.
only optimists commit suicide because they think they have something to gain from it
What, you've never done DMT?
Also, how is this politics. This boards dead.
Most people killing themselves are white men over 40. By 40 you are what you are in this world. You most likely won't be changing careers, you're going to struggle with women unless you're loaded, and you have very little to look forward to. They feel stuck, and say fuck it.
Not as dead as your country is about to be, faggot
Life is hell for them. They lost that magical feeling of life that everyone else around them enjoys.
People who are actually depressed don't go around telling everyone about it like most attention seeking trannies do. Old was friends with this one dude for a few years but he moved to another town a few years back. Turned out he decided to off himself. Never even would have expected that out of him. real depressed people are usually the ones you least suspect.
Yes this board is dead
See you on the outside
My aunt hung her self
> she went to a hardware store
>bought rope
>a snicker bar and newspaper
> drove to the woods
> walked for miles and miles
> than hunged herself
> weeks later a young hunter found her
Because some people don't find a goal in their life and/or don't want to find one so they think that life is pointless, had to it a bit of problems and they killthemselves and not actively fight against the things that are wrong in their lifes or in the world.
theyre really not
when u go to sleep ur basically killing urself temporarily
People commit suicide because they hang out too much at pol and every time they click on an interesting topic, it's file not found, and if they do get to type in a lengthy, effort-post response, by the time they hit "post", yeah, you guessed it, the thread does not exist anymore... it's almost as if someone is trying to break our spirits and wants us to die.
>Old was friends with this one dude for a few years but he moved to another town a few years back. Turned out he decided to off himself. Never even would have expected that out of him.
That's crazy shit.
>real depressed people are usually the ones you least suspect.
yeah makes sense. Actions speak louder than words the saying goes, right?
I N D I V I D U A L I S M
everyone think they matter and when the truth blasts with all the fuck and shit and piss, they realize that they're are too weak to start pursuing their greatness, then they stop seeing their purpose and in turn do anhero
Many different reasons, most do it cuz they're dumb tho.
Some do because of the physical pain, some because of the other sorts of pain, some because of their debts, etc.
>Why do people commit suicide
First an answer to answer your question: If people fail at something, like invest a bunch of money in a business and fail, or the stock market and lose it all, then they can develop overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, loneliness, panic, and regret which do NOT go away. This can lead to suicide.
It's a good sign that you're asking this question. It means you probably have not experienced trauma and psychological pain that leads to relentless thoughts of suicide, or your brain has a good balance of chemicals to keep thoughts in check. You are also probably young, so the world is still highly stimulating, like sexually exciting, for example, which can distract you from feeling bad.
If they have no one that loves them and will support them then this can also increase the chances of suicide.
Young people who commit suicide are usually chemically imbalanced/crazy in some way.
We go to sleep to avoid getting sleep deprivation you fucking idiot.
>when u go to sleep ur basically killing urself temporarily
Also come back when you can talk like an adult faggot. take that teenspeak over to your local discord
When you think there is nothing good for you in this world, suicide appears to be the answer. Depression, if bad enough, is crippling and very difficult to endure. It lies to you but it is a very good liar.
Many escalate a dramatic fantasy in which there's no hope for the future...I think these are the ones who make the false cuts and sometimes accidentally succeed. The ones who get it right the first time are thinking "not another day of this, not another minute".
Best read on suicide, why did he do it, his life seemed so promising -- Good Old Neon. Stick with it, it ends quick enough.
I actually have the date planned for when I will kill myself. Why don't you tell me something. What do I have to look forward to?
>marriage?
A future ex wife? I'll pass. Even when I took steroids I couldn't get a steady gf thanks to the tinder era.
>kids
Sterile and I hate them
>money
Lost everything to crypto like a stupid faggot.
>career
Wageslavery is just slavery with extra steps.
>muh video games n movies
Oh boy watching prettier, richer people get paid millions to have fun on screen or simulated mindless tasks.
>muh religion
Fuck off. The void is for me and I'm jumping in.
He worded it like a retard. what he means is that some people really do just want to go to sleep and never wake up. It removed all responsibilities, worries, doubts, fears
normal ppl going to bed is completely unrelated.
>It's a good sign that you're asking this question. It means you probably have not experienced trauma and psychological pain that leads to relentless thoughts of suicide, or your brain has a good balance of chemicals to keep thoughts in check. You are also probably young, so the world is still highly stimulating, like sexually exciting, for example, which can distract you from feeling bad.
Awesome assumptions faggot. Way to somehow make the topic about yourself and how edgy you are.
My brother blew his brains out with a kimber 45 in october of last year.
The entire point in the OP is that no matter how rough life is, suicide is still retarded. It's not about who suffers the most you fucking retard.
That's a sick pistol, wanna sell it?
people commit suicide to avoid sleep deprivation
>t-talk like an adult
cope
why not right now
livestream it for us faggot
what a retard
I honestly don’t know, it seems like an incredibly stupid decision.
In this universe, nothing ceases to exist. Everything is recycled one way or another. Your consciousness WILL end somewhere, eventually. Even if it takes a gorillion years. You won’t notice it because you won’t have a fucking brain to interpret time and space.
The real issue here, is... where? And, is it really worth killing myself knowing well that this may not be the solution for my problems but just the beginning of a much worse problem? Absolutely not. Life isn’t even that bad anyways, i enjoy moments every now and then. It is a really fucking stupid decision that doesn’t make any sense whatsoever to me.
It was an awesome gun. My family had it mechanically destroyed
People don't go to sleep to fake suicide every night like an edgy fuck. They go to sleep to avoid sleep deprivation so they can enjoy their next day. You fail to see the flaw in your retarded argument still.
maybe it was because of Cerebral palsy. Not hard to figure that one out.
If your parents are still alive you will harm them to an horrible extent if you kill yourself. Same for your friends if you have any. They could help you.
>suicide
>edgy
everyone knows someone that killed themselves
stop pretending like it isnt a normal fact of life
>very illogical act with zero upside
It allows you to stop living. That's not illogical. Do you not understand why people have their dogs or cats put to sleep when they're found to be terminally ill? It's not normally done for the owner's benefit. It's done for the dog or cat's benefit to stop their suffering.
Why isn't there an option for people that want to commit suicide to do it in the hospital so they can donate there organs.
suicide is retarded which would make you a retard if you did it. There ya go
Because I'm finishing an art piece you edgy cunt. Might as well leave something behind.
>The entire point in the OP is that no matter how rough life is, suicide is still retarded. It's not about who suffers the most you fucking retard.
Right but sometimes things cause intense psychological pain that few have experienced. I guess you haven't experienced these intense feelings and do not understand... I have. and I used to not understand suicide but now I do. Sometimes the psychological pain doesn't subside. It's with you day and night, and is strongest in the morning.
the drive to survive is very strong, so they lost that somehow
it's not a good thing
lots of people become alcoholics instead of killing themselves.
>edgy cunt
>t. the guy that plans his suicide date
i don't care about your shitty art and neither does anyone else
just get that livestream going
The main reason cited in modern times is that it wouldn't be fair to doctors to put them in that position where they're responsible for killing patients.
>friends
Nope. Haven't had a text from someone outside of work in years. Use to be very popular, host orgies with the goth kids ect. Everyone moved or blew up.
>family
I don't even talk to them. Dad was a rager, mom was shart in mart trash. Since I don't talk to either of them they will get over it quick since their lives will not change at all, also i dont care because I will be dead.
LIFE SUCKS
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now you're changing the topic to something totally unrelated to your initial argument, but alright I'll go with it.
>everyone knows someone that killed themselves. stop pretending like it isnt a normal fact of life
Suicide isn't normal in life. It's a retarded act that retards do.
Oh I actually have so you can stop with the assumptions. But I don't let fleeting emotions dictate the direction of my life like a woman like yourself. You think you're edgy because you were super depressed that one time when you lost that one toy soldier so now you understand the world.
You kill yourself to stop the pain
this is all that i will ever need. thank you for saying this far better than i could've.
i live for power. happiness of all forms is an illusion.
Why not make more pieces of art? Maybe you could try to share it with others, there is certainly people out there or on Yas Forums who would love your work. I mean cubism is ugly and some people still consider Picasso like a god.
I will if you post a timestamp pic of your face. I wanna see it user. We all do.
bc suicide is BAD ASS
yes, but srsly, no animal will suicide, just 'peer pressured' humans
hell yeah man
Because they would rather put you on drugs to make you wageslave. They pretend that life is sacred and then do things like open up the country while a virus tears through it. I’d imagine that if they made assisted suicide legal in the US tomorrow literally millions would go rushing to it and that’s not good for shekleburg. SSRIS are usually given to men due to low test who are depressed so that they will keep wage slaving.
A lot of it is weakness. You can tell by the fact most people try to commit suicide by painless methods. If someone is really in so much pain where suicide makes sense then the suicide method shouldn't matter.
french painters are a joke compared to english painters in terms of true beauty
>t. "couldn't even kill himself right"
are you a woman
>only retards kys
the only retards that kys are the ones that have loose ends
that being said, then why haven't you?
Loneliness and a lifetime of painful rejection. I am going to die alone and unloved, why prolong the misery? I need somebody to talk to and a hug but that isn't something you can purchase in a store. Life sucks and I am still around because I don't want to hurt family but I stopped caring about myself long ago.
I do not understand your point of view. How could anybody not see the reasons and logic behind suicide?
Allow me to put some logic to it then.
More than likely, this life is pointless. Most likely no gods exist, there is not afterlife, there is not fucking point at all to living if in the long run the end result is the same. Everything turns to dust and will one day become forgotten and never remembered, one day the sun will go supernova and destroy everything, that is if humans don't destroy everything first.
If you try to be logical and reasonable then you can never really have faith, and without faith you can never actually believe in life after death and so if you approach things logically there is no life after death, this is it, this all you ever will be. That being said some people say "that makes this life worth so much more" but in reality whether you die today or die 50 years, the end result is the same, nothingness. Whether you're a murderer or invent the cure for cancer, your end is the same, nothingness.
Thus if you're having a shitty life, if you're abused, or just shit out of luck, one could say if the end result is the same and you do not currently enjoy your existence, you might as well just kill yourself and save yourself the pain of continued existence.
I personally have faith in my gods. It is not logically and I know and accept that. I also accept that any knowledge of any beings so great as to be considered gods would be beyond my comprehension and thus I do not care if they are truly real, all I know is that they make me happy, give me a reason to live and that life is to coincidental for them not to exist. But before when I was an athiest I came to a very nihilistic conclusion and tried killing myself a few times because I had a shit childhood with an abusive mother and absent father, I was miserable and decided that I'd rather die than to keep living such a shit existence.
You not understanding why someone would shows me either you've never suffered or you haven't suffered enough.
>. But I don't let fleeting emotions dictate the direction of my life like a woman like yourself.
ok ur the one being edgy and no I don't think you understand because I don't think you've felt these feelings. Some people may never feel them and that's a very good thing. They were a total shock to my system. I lost a lot of money. that's what sent me over the edge.
No I know you like to support your fellow suiciders and think it's for a noble cause, but all suiciders are retards. I'll never do such a thing simply because of how retarded and illogical it is.
>what drives people to suicide
Because life isn't worth living to them. They'd rather not spend their time doing anything, nothing at all. Some form of agony or sorrow haunts them, or they petty joys can't be felt through heaps of burden.
A lot of it is from crushed expectations. Everyone grows up, thinking they'll be something great, that people will help them, that their friends will stick around, that they'll succeed. Then they go to college, lose their friends, try to make new ones that are shallow shadows that might only echo their old friends at best, depression starts to kick in at school, they drop out, they slave away doing boring, menial jobs and everything that was good in their lives starts to dry up or blow away. Or maybe they are successful, and all success amounts to is working five or six days a week sitting in front of a computer, doing unpleasant, monotonous things that they have no interest in, and as the thing they spend most of their waking hours doing embitters them. Divorce is another big reason, losing half your wealth or not.
here you go nigger
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They can’t ever understand user. They don’t know what its like to literally be in hell just for existing. I’m a drug addict and alcoholic from an early age and the most common question from normies is just “why don’t you stop?” Because it’s hell. I would literally be in hell for a month with no way to work a job. I always tell them that I wish I could put my consciousness into their brain for just a day while withdrawing and see how they like it. Little pussies would probably kill themselves immediately. They don’t know just how fucking bad mental health can get. Eventually for the alcohol it becomes “I can go cold turkey right now and suffer and possibly die for a month or just take a drink and momentarily relieve the suffering.” Imagine just chopping off the arm or a normie and then putting heroin infront of them and telling them not to use it because they should just suffer the pain. That’s addiction.
Yes, they are mostly overated. We had a some quite painters before the industrial revolution but after it got worse and worse until you finish with "intelectual" things like a giant anal plug on the public place. France has become shit... But it can be changed.
>your face. I wanna see
lmao
fag
>Ok ur
Ah, hey teenager your local discord is up the road and to the left. Make sure to join servers that are as deep and edgy as you are since you've endured the worst possible things in life.
Feelings are fleeting, faggot. If you want to sit in them 24/7 then join your local woman's sewing group so you all can have your period together.
For you
Show some compassion. He lost a lot of money.
Nothing makes life good. You make your life good