“You want to wake up in the morning and think the future is going to be great - and that's what being a spacefaring civilization is all about. It's about believing in the future and thinking that the future will be better than the past. And I can't think of anything more exciting than going out there and being among the stars.” — ELON MUSK, SPACEX
Welcome to /etm/. This is a place on Yas Forums to discuss everything space related(with a concentration on Mars). I normally post the general once a week every saturday between 8pm to 10pm UK time.
If you are new here, these videos will get you in the mood for some discussion: >What Would A Million Person Mars Colony Look Like? youtube.com/watch?v=JaimO7nvzzQ
Earth is flat and Musk is a stupid puppet who knows ANYTHING about engineering he's a fucking weeb actor
William Rodriguez
As in asteroid mining? Because a mars outpost would be the big test on long term survivability of anything space related. We wont be able to do asteroid mining effectively if we cant set up some martian infrastructure
Carter Taylor
this can be my emergency broadcast post for anyone loyal to /etm/ all banter aside if for some reason i stop making this general, everything needed to carry it on can be found in more recent threads like this one (just use 4plebs) and here archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/217125295/ (if you scroll down to 21:57:07 you can see i started dumping old OPs and stuff)
Grayson Hall
Tfw kerbalnaut but believe there is some kind of truth to "the dome" aswell. The money will be in asteroid mining, Mars is interesting but hard to land on because low atmo. I personally doubt we will be colonizing any time soon without electrogravity classified tech.
If the flat folk are not correct, lets for the sake of argument assume it is possible to visit other places in the one verse and that NASA are 100% legit and the vector symbology is just a coincidence.
Adam Bell
(i'll bump this for visibility)
Josiah Thomas
I genuinely would go if they wanted generic warm bodies
Evan Sanders
There are bigger fish to fry before Mars is a concern. Don't skip levels. We need to clear practical FTL travel stage first.
Ian White
cringe old OP image from when i first started the general (before it was called /etm/!)
>Recommended Reading Project MARS: A Technical Tale, by Wernher von Braun The Case For Mars, Robert Zubrin. The High Frontier by Gerard O'Neill. Colonies in Space, by T. A. Heppenheimer. Rocket Propulsion Elements, Sutton. Aerothermodynamics of Gas Turbine and Rocket Propulsion, Gordon Coates. Space Mission Engineering, the new SMAD, Wiley, ed. Fundamentals of Astrodynamics, Bates, etc. International Reference Guide to Space Launch Systems, Steve Isakowitz. Mining the Sky, John Lewis. Rain of Iron and Ice, John Lewis. We Seven: By the Astronauts Themselves. Voices from the Moon, Andrew Chaikin. The Millennial Project, Marshall Savage. Modern Engineering for Design of Liquid Propellant Rocket Engines, David H. Huang. Mars trilogy, Kim Robinson The Martian Way, Isaac Asimov Foundation Trilogy, Isaac Asimov The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, Heinlein Roving Mars, Steve Squyres The Heavens and the Earth, A Political History of the Space Age, Walter A. McDougall Solar Sails: A Novel Approach to Interplanetary Travel, Giovanni Vulpetti, Gregory L. Matloff, and Les Johnson Spacesuit: Fashioning Apollo, Nicholas de Monchaux
>for anyone who wants a quick profile on Mars Equatorial Diameter: 6,792 km Polar Diameter: 6,752 km Mass: 6.42 x 10^23 kg (10.7% Earth) Moons: 2 (Phobos & Deimos) Orbit Distance: 227,943,824 km (1.52 AU) Orbit Period: 687 days (1.9 years) Surface Temperature: -153 to 20 °C First Record: 2nd millennium BC Recorded By: Egyptian astronomers
>There are signs of liquid water on Mars. For years Mars has been known to have water in the form of ice. The first signs of trickling water are dark stripes or stains on crater wall and cliffs seen in satellite images. Due to Mars’ atmosphere this water would have to be salty to prevent it from freezing or vaporizing.
I don't know. Probably/Hopefully not, but i do feel shit rn. Either way its the best time to make sure someone here knows how to carry on /etm/ if anything happened to me.
Isaac Torres
Mars has low atmosphere so its hard to land on because aerobreaking is reduced compared to earth This is why rovers have mostly used crash impact rubber balloon type methods so far, combined with some aerobreaking late burns and automated radar aided landing sequences.
Earth is way easyer to deorbit on apart from the possibility of firey death. Also Mars has more mass than asteroids or a space station so requires more deltaV to leave again it would be smarter to stay on space station or Ceres or something than mars, for early colonization. The reason they wont is cosmic radiation and for that planets ARE a better option.
Tldr: Mars is tricky because of you fuck up you will die.
Connor Green
>its hard to land on because aerobreaking is reduced compared to earth
right well im assuming all the data compiled on the unmanned missions coming up will aid in getting this right
Caleb Rivera
*if you duck up Remember Shepard's prayer.
Grayson James
OK OP, have a bump and I hope you feel better
Noah Perry
cheers
Charles Peterson
Establishing ourselves on Mars would aid in successful space trade
Asher Davis
A human will never set foot on Mars. Mark my words.
Colton Bennett
This guy is a scammer...but the mars mission is something the USA need, because the USA , as country, can't be identify itself trough ethnics, ideologies, or culture (because is a young country)...but it identifies itself trough their fates. The USA need its mars mission, and need to do it ALONE, no russians, no chinks, no euros...no women...Because is the way it revive itself, and remind it, as nation, its capabilities, the mars mission is the great monunent that is si badly needed in this times that you, ustaters, are entering in this decadent age. You need your mars mission, and you need to be yours, your alone victory to tell to the rest of the world a big "fuck you"....And that "fuck you" is needed to keep world in order and civilized. This guy instead, is summoning that annoying and useless nerd romanticism, probably looking for a " diverse" crew and a huge dildo shaped rocked design with a lgbt flag, and gays and niggers...to scam you with a uberoverpriced program, that probably will never get done... BUT! You need that mission, you ustaters, you need it badly, and has nothing to do with " muh terrafurminhhh" " mah cosmic fate" and all that nerd shit.
Nathaniel Scott
Pretty bleak outlook on things
Eli Johnson
Realistic. The Jews are killing this world. We'll never escape
Wyatt Evans
There's still time
Nicholas Clark
SMOL PP Venus is clearly for winners. MARS is poorfag colony for leftists. Go there and stay.
Angel Reed
Yeah thats all great apart fro one thing. The human body can't handle space travel. In some people blood flow reverses, in others it stops which causes clots. We need to evolve further in order to leave the planet long term, which we can't do here on Earth. His calculations are correct, his biology isn't
>clots I'd assume anticoagulant medication can help with this
Eli Walker
The clots are caused because your blood isn't moving
Easton Bailey
Going to Mars and colonising it is actually possible and makes sense, if you want to larp as Lando Calrissian and go venus in a cloud city (a glorified zeppelin) then go ahead lol
Aiden Nelson
We aren't going anywhere. We are going to die on this rock. Sorry to be the one to break it to you
Nathan Adams
Well fuck, not everyone who has been to slave has suffered from them so it's just another risk we'll take
Lincoln Hernandez
Don't even bother replying to me if you are going to be like that. Piss off back to britpol and moan there instead.
Hudson Davis
>my idea is so perfect it can't withstand any criticism, this is my thread REEEEEEEE the post
Hudson Morales
Did you even read the links? No, no you didn't. Because you idea is fucking shit it is see through. I'm not going to play along with your fantasy
Leo Hall
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Xavier Long
bump, hello frens
Anthony Scott
Jews must remain on earth at all costs
Alexander Flores
Evening OP, hope you don't have the coof. Don't worry I'll save as much as I can. Keep up the great work, lad
Yeah you have a trip, I'm not surprised you know where that thread is. Meanwhile ,nobody has a solution to the problems I provided you with. Easier to hit out like a child than actually think logically
