Because of retarded health anxiety, I've happened to fall deep into a crazy rabbit hole online where there are multiple independent reports of people catching a disease through sexual contact with symptoms matching acute HIV infection showing up a couple weeks later, eventually progressing to an AIDS-like condition. Some people are reporting that there are some doctors in China that are aware of this condition, and there is some evidence pointing towards a Chinese origin.
What is crucial is that this doesn't seem to be picked up by HIV tests spaced multiple months apart, yet these people are reporting symptoms that line-up with immunocompromised patients (AIDS, in other words). Some doctors seem to be taking it seriously, but no MSM coverage yet.
Anyone know more about this? My initial suspicion was that these people are simply paranoid and are suffering under severe health anxiety, but some of the pictures uploaded seem incredibly severe and I am starting to think there may be something going on here. (some of them even report decreased CD4-cell counts, a classic indicator of immunocompromisation).
Pic related is a picture of some of the symptoms that someone uploaded in their Discord channel.
"The qualitative systematic analysis suggested that the idiopathic CD4+ T lymphocytopenia (ICL) and infection of nontuberculosis mycobacteria (NTM) had similar characteristics with AIDS-related complex (HIV negative). Through network investigation of 174 cases and field observation of 52 cases, the data showed that the AIDS-related complex population came from different areas of China, and was dominated by young and middle-aged male patients. The complained symptoms involved respiratory tract, gastrointestinal tract, skin, muscle, skeleton and nervous system. The clinical course could be divided into an acute period and a stable period. The special symptoms are swollen lymph nodes, snapping joint, osteodynia, muscle throbbing pain, skin nodules (rash), greasy tongue coating and dry skin. The CD4+ T lymphocytes
Parker Kelly
Fuck I might have this
Bump
Logan Cooper
"A 2011 study at the Peking Union Medical College examining the blood lymphocytes of 23 patients with the "HIV-like" pathogen found that 83% had a CD4 count of greater than 500 CD4 cells per mm3, and 17% of patients had CD4 counts between 300 and 500 cells per mm3, with the lowest count being 307 cells per mm3. The study found a few patients had an inverse CD4/CD8 ratio, but without excessive CD8 activation."
"An 2010 examination by the Chinese CDC of 23 patients with the "HIV-like" pathogen found that 14% of patients had low CD4 counts less than 450 CD4 cells per mm3."
"The incubation period of this new "HIV-like" pathogen appears to be around 2 to 3 days (this is the time it takes for the first symptoms of this disease to appear after the initial exposure to the pathogen). Then during the first three months after contracting the virus, many of the disease symptoms will manifest.
This new "HIV-like" virus is probably not transmitted sexually, but is easily transmitted by kissing, which often takes place during sex. Individuals who catch this virus through sex may mistakenly think they have caught a sexual disease, but this is a respiratory virus that spreads via saliva.
In fact, once someone catches this pathogen, it quickly spreads to others, such as family, friends and work colleagues, by ordinary social contact. This indicates the virus should not to be considered a sexually transmitted pathogen, even though it is often caught from kissing during sex with a new partner (or from a prostitute — there are many reports from China of this virus being caught from sex with a prostitute, even protected sex)."
You have a point, but this thing appears to spread via saliva as well.
Angel Green
I have been saying this for weeks, the next deadly outbreak will be airborne HIV. We have way to many incels for the regular HIV to infect more people so they have to find a better way of spreading it.
Samuel Richardson
I had a UTI 1 week after contact and a rash a month later, but the rash is on my chest and might be from stress, not as severe as this and not on hands and feet
Thomas Miller
Have you done a HIV test to rule out any infection? Rash showing up a month later is characteristic of acute HIV infection.
Justin Sanchez
What are you like 80? Who just gets a rash by thinking about it??
Mason Perry
This particular virus doesn't seem airborne, but I otherwise agree with your opinion and I think it's only a matter of time before we get airborne HIV. Luckily there are good anti-retrovirals that can limit its progression to AIDS, though.
Kayden Flores
Bumping with some more content.
Pic related is a document from the chinese ministry of health acknowledging the existence of the virus
wtf shaves up to their belly button? stairway to heaven is the chad way.
Grayson Hill
scabbies. stop letting whores on your bed dipshit.
Xavier Ward
>My initial suspicion was that these people are simply paranoid and are suffering under severe health anxiety Why would anxiety give you virus?
Levi Baker
Not to worry, modern HIV treatment gives you an equal lifespan to a normal person, you just need to take a pill a day.
Rather awkward to reveal your status to any potential mate, though.
Samuel James
It wouldn't give you a virus, but it would definitely give you symptoms of immunocompromisation as anxiety and stress can depress your immune system.
Caleb Peterson
>fags are diseased This is news?
Thomas Morris
It's not just fags that are getting this mystery virus, though. Regular HIV I would agree since heterosexual sex carries a very low risk of transmission, but this particular virus seems easier to transmit than HIV.
Brayden Gray
Looks like some dengue
Aaron Morales
those are german measles
Angel Rodriguez
I thought Asian men rarely if ever had intercourse?
Jacob Nelson
>nail loss That's some serious shit. >incubation 2-3 days You don't need to wait.
Christian Morgan
Bullshit!!!!
Grayson Young
>Chink-AIDS Will this finally convince you faggots to stop burning the rice?
No confirmation that this is of Chinese-origin yet, but it seems like they are the ones taking it seriously hence all the studies.
Josiah Roberts
so it's just open season in china for bio weapons. wtf are they doing over there
Jacob James
It seems like the mystery virus first showed up in the early-2000s - I doubt its a bioweapon.
Zachary Cruz
Checked. And I still think it's tied to the chink doc that CRISPered the embryos to delete the AIDS susceptibility gene. He prob tested on mice w/human cells, sold or released the mice, chinks ate them, and here we are.
William Russell
Likely HIV prior to the Chinese virus.
Lincoln Parker
I started having splotches like this all over my arms, legs and sides about 3 weeks ago. My dermatologist saw me on an emergency basis last Fri and said she has no idea what it is, but it's not psoriasis. She scribed me an antibiotic and so far it's slowing down but not going away.
I only have 1 partner and she has zero symptoms. Covid-19 is all over my town, and I work in the same building where a guy died from it just this week.
Am I fuxked, ??
Isaac Harris
Hypochondrianitis is a real disease. Spend enough time thinking that you are sick, and phantom symptoms will manifest themselves physiologically. Quit thinking about disease and clean your room.
Jace Powell
What is also interesting is that it seems like sites and forums discussing this are constantly being scrubbed and taken down. Cover-up in progress maybe?
Ryan Robinson
doesnt matter had sex
Ian Gomez
I have 90% of those symptoms since my last long-year relationship, but that was 6 years ago.
Jace Flores
have fun getting lesions on your testis.
Hudson Turner
holy fuck, i have this shit but not that much, i havent had sex in a long time, how the fuck did i catch this shit then?
Jordan King
To be honest, that salami pattern rash can also be an indicator of an allergy or your liver being overwhelmed by tylenol or alcohol.
Evan Nelson
>STD Doesn't affect me.
Kevin Thompson
Sup botnet?
Asher Jenkins
Are you gay? Not asking in a degrading way, if you had straight sex you are most likely fine. Its incredibly difficult to get it as a straight man in a heterosexual relationship
Landon Powell
Ah, so that's what that rash I got is. Maybe it comes from coronavirus.
basically new AIDS that spreads without sex but could also be sexually transmitted with a delayed on set of symptoms >nail loss OK I'm gonna need to read your sources now kek these claims are massive
Julian Garcia
>A 2011 study at the Peking Union Medical College examining the blood lymphocytes of 23 patients with the "HIV-like" pathogen >2011 How old is this HIV like virus you're describing OP? Can you give us a clear timeline? Has it resurfaced and become stronger recently or something? In your original post you said you fell into a rabbit hole, so I'm just trying to get caught up user.
Daniel Lee
Yeah probably time to kys
Benjamin Fisher
>I've happened to fall deep into a crazy rabbit hole
Were you rolling around in ivy plants? You could just have some kind of contact dermatitis. Strange that the dermatologist didn't know though. Did they take a sample of your skin to test it? That's what they should have done.
Landon Sullivan
>memeflag fuck off
Aaron Martinez
I had a rash like this that went full-body when I had strep throat. IIRC it was a secondary viral infection that hit because my system was so busy dealing with strep A trying to roast my heart and brain.
Parker Barnes
Uti is unrelated to HIV If you showed symptoms after contact such as this chest rash it would've been accompanied by the worst flu you've ever experienced 2x. If there was no fever you might be ok. Please get tested at 3 months with an at home HIV saliva swab, or visit your doctor 6 weeks after contact and have a duo test done. Better to know user, hopefully you've learned your lesson. If results are definitively negative live your life and never look back
Brody Thomas
If you dont think anxiety and stress depress your immune system then you are an absolute retard