17% DEATH RATE CONFIRMED

>always the same german schizo
stop shilling krautnigger

Only third world shitholes like Italy, Iran and the US have high mortality rates, because they countt heir deaths autisticaly
>“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.
>“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.
telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/
Keep in mind, NOP country can test their entire population. In the case where a whole population of people got to be tested in a quarantine scenario, we got 700 infected out of 3700 and only 7 old people with underlying dead. But keep biting the bait, retard.

Literally means nothing. The biggest nothingburger for the last 300 years.

It’s not even 1% you fucking faggot liar.

Imagine if we had real chink numbers.

I wish people would stop using this fucking retard logic.

They count flu deaths the same way, as "ILI's"(influenza related illness) in Italy. The average number of dead due to "ILI's" is 62.5 due to the flu. That means if someone has a heart condition, gets the flu, and dies, it counts as an ILI. Over 900 people were counted to have died from Corona. Thats nearly 15X the rate of what they count from the flu. Stop being a fucking idiot and do some actual research .

Get back home or I'll beat you with a stick.

Calm down Heinrich

>t. retard
There are 20000x more infections then is being tested/confirmed, making this flu not very lethal

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Not to mention that it's estimated that there are tons of people that have it/had it and never sought medical attention because symptoms were so light. Happeningfags are truly moronic

>Undocumented cases just means even more infected and more dead in the future
No, it means that a ton of people have it so light that they don't even think it is coronavirus.
We'll see once a vaccine comes out and everyone is tested for antibodies. It will be around 1/1.5% death rate

They count flu numbers the same way you idiot, which is why theres such a high estimate range for the flu each season. Even when you compare estimations, corona is far deadlier than the flu.

Now how many of those deaths were unrelated to the virus, but still lumped to it to pad the statistic? Its already happening everywherr where all pneumonia or unrelated illnesses and deaths from them are lumped to chink fpu, when the person never tested positive for it.

>aha! what if i assume something about how this is calculated even though i've shown no evidence of it being "padded"

shit you got em

Italy had 25k deaths from flu both in 2016 and 2017. Just in the flu season alone. This year it was 200+ somehting. Really makes you think.

>they count flu numbers same way
No they fucking don't. They make estimates for the flu. You only have confirmed corona if it's being tested
Only 5% in critical condition and its a new virus. No this is not more deadly

Does anyone have the source about the chinese phone subscriptions dropping by the millions?

>confirmed
>no link

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Almost as if there was a very large data set that was falsified early on which is being very slowly corrected by genuine data.

Almost as if when you remove that very obviously false data the death rate goes up to 45%.

But you know what's more interesting. The "mild cases 100%" remember that? It's now down to 92%. That isn't effected by china's false data. And it sure is fun to watch it drop another few points each day as severe cases take up a larger and larger market share.

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worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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The mortality rate for those that receive medical treatment (if needed) in the US is under 2%. That's all I care about. I do not live in a major city and my local healthcare facilities will unlikely be overwhelmed with cases at any point.

I don't understand. Rn total cases stands at 597,252 and 27,365 deaths at a death rate of 4.58%.

Not even remotely true lol. Get in the corpse tent, nothingburger.

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>The average number of dead due to "ILI's" is 62.5 due to the flu
That's fucking bullshit
epicentro.iss.it/influenza/sorveglianza-mortalita-influenza
On average 8k people die because of influenza in italy with peaks of 20k

Many places, like Italy, are UNDER reporting deaths by corona chan. It's a lot higher than 17%

Again, I assume somoene has alreday said this but

>Reported infection number =/= actual infection number

interesting, got any source on these numbers?

0/10 work on your bait

> for those that receive medical treatment

Which eventually stops when you get enough infected

I've heard all sorts of different numbers for flu deaths in italy. Gibs correct sauce.

the only thing we are under reporting is number of cases. All estimates say the are 10x the reported number
ilgiornale.it/news/milano/i-contagiati-possono-essere-dieci-volte-numero-ufficiale-1844692.html
And if anything we are over reporting eath, for the simple fact that if anyone dies and happens to be infected, he counts as a death FROM coronavirus.
These two factors contribute to an absurdly artificially inflated death rate

thelocal.it/20200123/flu-outbreak-in-italy-half-a-million-people-struck-down-in-a-week

>I do not live in a major city and my local healthcare facilities will unlikely be overwhelmed with cases at any point.

Do you think the people in the city will just be told to go die in the street, or will they be shipped off to your town?

If it’s the doomsday worst case scenario a lot of happening fags think it is, you’ll be in for a surprise. Your local backwater hospital might have half a dozen ICU beds. The exurbs around the city here have 24. The city has 450+ (400+ of which are currently taken).

That's from ISS (Istituto Superiore di Sanità), directly tied to health ministry. Doesn't get more official than that

>that too but I suspect the "everyone already has the virus and it does nothing" is bullshit, maybe some people get it and dont have any symptoms but they cant be a large%
Diamond Princess. Iceland. South Korea. Germany.

oh, and
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

>epicentro.iss.it/influenza/sorveglianza-mortalita-influenza
ok thanks i didnt see this link

I'm not worried about my county. It's population is relatively sparse but still has abundant healthcare facilities.

How did you get that number, 2,5%? I read that half a billion was infected and a hundred million died, that's 20%

*and greece, china, japan, South korea...

jej

Very unlikely they'll be "shipped" here.

This is from the same site. You can say the sky is falling all you want. Influenza kills 290,000-650,000 every year. Even if the corona virus somehow killed double that, the effect wouldn't even be noticeable. My state hasn't shut anything down. I've been going to the gym and going out to restaurants like normal. I'm young, in good shape and don't give a fuck about your panic mongering. Life is going on without you.

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No it’s 17% of those cases that had a confirmed outcome

Oh my....GOOOOOD
IT'S HAPPENIIIIIIIING AAAAAHHH... YEEES IT'S ITS.... HAPPOOONIIIING AAHHH...

Recovery takes months due to sickness lasting 3-6 weeks and requiring 3 negative tests. Death takes days. Idiot thinks recovery-death ratio is death rate. This ratio only matters when all is said and done.

so 8000 flu deaths per year, with it peaking in winter months. Let's say 75% of those flu deaths are in winter months. So thats 6000 deaths in 3-4 months of the year. Coronavirus is currently over 9000 in what, 2 months? That would indicate its more lethal than the flu but then again thereare arguments that Italy has been very generous with diagnosing the dead as Coronavirus victims when they werent actually tested. Many of them are just being thrown in with the corona crowd.

What you need to make your argument correct is called extrapolation and in this case it's wildly inaccurate.

>83% discharged
>17% death

This means that 100% of these people are hospitalized. 100% of people with the kung flu that are hospitalized have a severe case typically compounded with comorbidities. 17% of deaths means that 17% of people died who were diagnosed with chinavirus but not necessarily because of chinavirus. Yes, this might be the final nail in the coffin for some of them, but were they not already flirting with the grave they probably would have been fine.

You want the extrapolation to mean that literally anyone who catches it has a 17% chance of death.

In summary, you're a retarded frog.

>ignore the 90% of mild cases that have recovered because 30 million chinks died in a month

Holy shit.....you mean to tell me that.... That.. THAT IT'S HAPPENIIIIIIIING?????

Checked.
>Greece is 3/1m pop death rate
>Japan is 0.4/1m pop death rate
>S. Korea is 3/1m pop death rate
China is a lying shithole, I won't even bother, because nothing they say is true.
Keep in mind these are based on the (((official))) numbers

This msm pushed me again, the Spanish flu came after the war while Europe was ravaged and medicine was evolved as today. Same could be said for the black death, people didn't kept personal hygine, poor nutrition and doctors who thought that leeches can drain the body out of the sickness. Think for yourself before posting this meme again

Just a flu , bro

17% of confirmed cases does not equal 17% death rate. there’s probably thousands walking around with it asymptomatic or are mildly sick at home without going to the hospital.

>Italy has been very generous with diagnosing the dead as Coronavirus victims when they werent actually tested.
No no. All deaths announced as corona were tested for it. The point is that we are generous with deaths in the sense that if you are rushed to the hospital for cardiac arrest and also happen to be coughing, you get tested. One day later you die and count as corona death, even though you likely died from cardiac arrest.
You are right in saying it's worse than a flu. It's inbetween a flue and SARS severity wise

lol
you suck at maths
compare the number of infections and the number of deaths
people who recovered is stupid and useless stat unless you test all the population, few countries did or are doing it, which means the worldwide numbers for recovery is not correct.

Not every infected is counted. True.
But also: number of Corona's dead reduced by counting them as dead from other (underlying) causes.
Also, it might be that there are no recovered, they could get reinfected till they die too.
So, all these numbers are meaningless.
So, let's say that in a few months almost everyone is infected.
Then one could count increase in total deaths - compare it with previous year. Although if things go really bad - add (or subtract) deaths from starvation and mass murders.

So, fill out Census form - this digit is a proof that you once were.

lol