Pan Germania

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>Germanic languages probably did not appear before the Nordic Bronze Age (1800-500 BCE). Proto-Germanic language probably developed as a blend of two branches of Indo-European languages, namely the Proto-Balto-Slavic language of the Corded-Ware culture (R1a-Z283) and the later arrival of Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic people from the Unetice culture (R1b-L11). This is supported by the fact that Germanic people are a R1a-R1b hybrid, that these two haplogroups came via separate routes at different times, and that Proto-Germanic language is closest to Proto-Italo-Celtic, but also shares similarities with Proto-Slavic.

> german says slavs are germans

dat cope for losing world war 2.

delusional german wants to be slav now.
here is a picture of your dear leader hitler with bolsheviks

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>delusional german wants to be slav now
but they are slavic Igor. Len inak hovoria

There is a theory that croats were slavinized descendants of Goths. More do I look at that theory it more makes sense. Name, history, art, some words in language. It is better theory than slavic or anything else. Even Führer himself belived in it

Yes, he hung out with bolsheviks before he developed national socialism dummy, cope

>we wuz ghots n shiet

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Or, instead of the larp, it might just be that those areas used to be inhabited by Pomeranians (Slavs), Prussians (Slavs), Sorbs (Slavs), Viennese Czechs (more Slavs), and countless other Slav nationlets that were later declared German

At least that theory has strong evidence unlike nigger egypt theory

You're just retarded senpai

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Should be way more than 82 million in Europe no? Total up the population of Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and you should get a figure around ~125 mil. The non-germanics living in these countries are somewhat leveled out by germanics living outside these countries. Or you could just subtract ~10% from the 125 mil and add the ex-pats.

Germania was a latin name of slavic province inhabited by slavic people like Bructeri, Rugi, Lugi, Landi, Dulgubni, Mugiloners, Sibini, Zumi, Boutones.
Cimbrian peninsula, Denmark was inhabited by celtic people like Teutones, Cimbri, Aesti (Heastingas, Hasdingi)
Scatinavia was inhabited by scatinavians liker Vinili (Longobardi) who came into slavic land of Germania and began to call themselves Germans.
Original Germanic people like Dulgubni and Angili from central Germany before they were scatinavized, were Slavs.

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Reminder that Aryans are inferior to the Jewish race.

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Genetically it doesn't make sense. Serbs have more Gothic Y-DNA haplogroups (I1) in fact, but still it's only around 10%.

You are from White Croatians whose name was also Peucini. Bagibareia = Vag Province, land of Biessoi, Ruthenia
Slavonians are original inhabitants in Croatia, since Sclavini lived up from Musianus (Bodensee), Noviodunum (nowaday in Slovenia, westernmost part of roman Panonnia), to Dniestr.

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>I1 is "gothic"
>Y-DNA haplogroups determine ethnicity
Why do retards do this?

It doesn't determine ethnicity, but how can Croats be slavicized Goths if they have no Gothic DNA?

This. But Yas Forums is too stupid to comperhand.

Pls go away

G*rms are just the mix of celts with slavs

Yeah that theory is proposed by Croats and most ppl that believe in it are Croats.

What a coincidence

K moor

Imagine being so butt hurt about everything that you have to make up this pathetic story.

First of all, I1 is not "ghotic DNA". Y-DNA only represents a small % of the actual genome. If you fucked a chink and had a son who fucked a chink and so on for 10 thousand years they would still carry your Y-DNA but would look like any other chink and be 99.9% chink.

Its especially retarded because I haplogroups are pre indo-european. As in they were in Europe before the indo-european migrations that brought the modern European languages to Europe and the R1(a/b) haplogroups that are carried by most Europeans including the original ancestors of Germanic, Slavic and Romance speakers.

I don't think I1 is actually gothic altho frankly what I know about Goths comes from a good history book, however written in 1986 so paleogenetics weren't there yet.
Realistically your best bet is checking Spanish and maybe North Italian aristocracy(but would it be gothic, longobard or part of later marriages within HRE?) if you're looking for goths. Even that I doubt you'll find. Goths were around and disappeared, eventually becoming dominated by other people, as typically the rule for whole human history was "survival of the elites", where efficiently the ruling class had dis-proportionally large number of women(and offspring) it's unlikely that such shift in dominant group wouldn't heavily reduce the chance of you finding actual "gothic" Y haplogroup.
Best direction to look into is imo Spanish aristocracy because you basically have 4 big options there - Arab, Berber, Roman and Goth(also Vandal and Swebs but that's less likely).

Imagine being so unlearned in ancient geography that he can't comprehend that Aesti lived near German Ocean not Scythian one.

Man, you're dumb as fuck. It was brought to the Carpathians and the Western Balkans with the Goths in Late Antiquity, so for all intents and purposes it's Gothic.

The earliest IEs had zero R1a/R1b anyway, so there were several turnovers.

You are either a sandnigger or a descendant of Spanish rape, so shut up Ahmed

It is, Wielbark culture from Poland was like 80-90% I1a.

I’m both and one is the causation of the other.

Well wasn't one of the later developments of Wielbark culture attributed to goths? Let me check because I think distinguishing feature was change in burial rites.

Ok - no weapons in burial mounds, that's Germanic feature so the association is probably correct.

It was completely Gothic.

Imagine being so retarded that that you ignore every linguistic and genetic piece of evidence and just start to believe what suits your narrative.

Sure pollack I’m really sure that we are super fucking related to you.

Ok, good comeback

Yeah whatever morisco. Seems that 500 years didn’t wash the salt out of your berber blood.

>we wuz Germanicz n cholera

It's what's literally going to happen.
Germanic people are the only group today that are actually doing things. Literally every other ethnic group on Earth is just running damage control.

>let me make up shit
Fuck off you retarded faggot.

I can back up everything I said with the latest genetic data, but I'm not sure what part you think is made up.

>I can but I won't
Fuck off, retard, you already outed yourself when you ascribed ethnicity to Y-DNA

Lmfao, explain 80-90% I1a in Wielbark culture, then.

Y-DNA is useful to trace migrations because invading tribes usually killed the men and enslaved the women.

>Y-DNA is useful to trace migrations because invading tribes usually killed the men and enslaved the women.
Therefore I should not exist in Europe at all since they were conquered by R1, you fucking retard. Yu're actually retarded enough to believe this though.

I was present in Europe before indo-european migrations, it was spread across Europe, they were assimilated which is why Scandinavians speak Germanic despite carrying pre-indo-european haplogroups that have nothing to do with indo-european langauges..

Because turnovers never happen? Your IQ must be like 80.

People are not just their race but also their culture.
Britania Romanum est.

Keep contradicting yourself you fucking retard.

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Where do you get the 82 million from? Germany have millions of Turks and niggers. That being said if you add Germans in Austria and Switzerland maybe you get to 82 million.

>"either it is always 100% Y-DNA replacements, or Y-DNA is not indicative of migrations at all"

The mind of a 68 IQ Slavtard.

>(((processual archeology)))
ISHYGDDT, eastern Europe was germanic untill they mass migrated to everywhere except eastern Europe because of the huns. After that the bog people remained, and remain to this day

>haplogroups present in the area for thousands of years before indo-european migrations could only be brought there by goths
Let me reiterate, stay retarded.

I1a diversified in the Bronze Age. Yes it has an old presence in Europe, but it didn't expand until much later.

Besides we have plenty DNA samples from South-Eastern Europe and I1a wasn't present before the Gothic migrations. It was present however in Gothic samples from the same area. So I'm not sure what we're discussing here.

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