Since there’s still a lot of mentally enslaved morons (plus a bunch of shills) who claim this is a nothingburger, I’m reposting my WhatsApp convos from last Thursday March 19 and Friday March 20 with my friend who is a physician in Spain. She is not an ICU doctor normally, but she was “drafted” by her hospital to assist with Corona patients.
Also, after the chat on Friday we talked at length on the phone and she told me this: 1) There is no cure. Anti-malaria therapy isn’t working. Anti-virals aren’t working. Interferone based treatment isn’t working. 2) Fatalities are mostly old folks, but not all of them. A few young patients, too. People get to the hospital, get intubated, get sedated, and die. Hundreds a day. 3) People in ICU usually die around the 8th day after the first symptoms. They die alone, mostly while sleeping. They cannot see their families and their families cannot say adios to them. 4) Lungs of people who die appear white at the X-rays. 5) People who were young and apparently healthy, died. There seems to be no correlation between a person’s health and his/her chance to survive once in ICU. 6) About 70% of the patients that are placed in ICU, die.
She suggested to avoid hospitals and doctors’ offices unless getting sick with severely impaired breathing. She said some of her colleagues are very sick.
CA. We have run out of PPE. The supply chains have broken down. They sent letters to the communty asking them to make cotton masks and send them into the hospital. Patient in the ICU are young. Average age is around 40.
Joshua Diaz
shit thread OP, you're trying too hard.
Gabriel Hill
Just boomers die?
What city?
Juan Ross
Larping faggot
Isaac Gomez
If this is true I think I had it in December. Kept coughing, could hardly breathe, was breathless, high fever and drugs weren't working much. Slept it off, but the cough stayed around for weeks as if it attacked my lungs, coughed up fluid for ages, only the past few weeks it's almost fully cleared up.
Gabriel Peterson
Go and ask her, moron.
“Hey, can you start filming dying people during your next shift at the ICU? Don’t mind if someone sees it, it’s just to post it on a public message board, make sure your badge is visible”
Faggot
Camden Morales
Larpers get the rope first
Landon Martin
oh luk this again
Adrian Rodriguez
>40
That fucking worrisome. My friend didn’t give a % of the age breakdown but said that it’s “very rare that young ones die”.
However 70% of al those who end up in ICU in her hospital, die. SEVENTY per cent.
Again, stay strong.
Josiah Sullivan
OP is a fag
Hunter Rodriguez
That’s what your wife says every night.
Or maybe what your mom used to say to your dad since you probably don’t have a wife nor a girlfriend.
Nicholas Hall
Fake and gay. And op is even gayer. Get coofed on.
Daniel Mitchell
Go suck a tranny dick, piece of shit
Ayden Morris
The rope will be in your ass before around my neck, faggot.
William White
SHUT UP PHAGGOT
Caleb Ortiz
I don't think it is it. I mean it's possibly, first recorded cases started getting reported in September/October to November. Hard to pinpoint exactly when this shit started due to multiple sources claiming different dates. But it didn't start in December at that market, for sure before those were reported. But did you really get it and made it trough? Hmm.
>in times like this, has time to answer OP's stupid questions that we already know the answer >Spanish speaking english
fuck you and your larp
Carson Kelly
I can't believe there are people that deny the vastity of the coronavirus threat. I am an italian medical doctor working in the emergency room of one of Rome's hospitals and while here is not as severe as is in the north of Italy the situation is almost out of control. We lost two young and sane men respectively 34 and 33 years old in the last few days. The situation is dire.
Austin Nelson
>first recorded cases started getting reported in September/October to November.
Reported. Exactly. This shit may have been around Wuhan since last summer, for what we know.
Nolan Williams
The reason I think I might have had it is because at the time I worked at a hotel and we had a lot of Chinese guests, one in particular was coughing but at the time I thought it was just a normal illness, so I didn't bother too much, it's only when this became international news I thought back to my symptoms and the guy coughing.
Lucas Garcia
Portuguese monkey cannot believe a doctor in Spain speaks English. Even if ne doesn’t know the doctor’s nationality.
Portugal - the most retarded country in EU.
Justin Perry
so you admit you are a larper?
Henry Mitchell
Tfw no picture proof
OP IS A MASSIVE FAGGOT SAGE GOES IN ALL FEELS KYS FAGGOT KIKE NIGGER OP
David Thompson
Ti capisco molto bene ma che ci vuoi fare, mezzi sono shills pagati e l’altra metà sono cretini patentati.
Stay strong. Feel free to add more of your personal experience at the hospital.
Ciao
Wyatt Perez
Looks like a LARP but probably accurate anyways.
Alexander Butler
>I worked at a hotel and we had a lot of Chinese guests, Ah yes of course. Well let's hope it doesn't come with new surprises later down the line as some reports claim.
Benjamin Jackson
LARP confirmed. Why would one fearmonger and spread lies about a 'deadly' virus?
Colton King
Did those two 33 and 34 years old patients have anything in common? Like a pre-existing condition? Anything?
Brody Jones
Nice LARP, faggot You have to go back
Jason Lopez
I admit you suck cocks on a daily basis while your mother gets gangbanged by niggers
Parker Williams
>I’m reposting my WhatsApp You don't have a cell phone? Liar.
Tyler Thompson
>People get to the hospital, Shouldnt ever do this.
Elijah Cruz
KYS, do a favor to the world
Austin Brown
prove me that u are an americunt and not a communist spanish government worker
Cameron Roberts
I’m not larping
Julian Campbell
I posted on this same thread a few days ago about my dyspenia
It got worse. What do I do? Is it over for me?
I'm breathing through my mouth sometimes because I can't get enough air through my nose.
Nolan Fisher
You are wrong
Jace Barnes
Why fearmonger?
Alexander Flores
This may be one of the stupidest reply so far. Really what is your IQ, 65?
Andrew Phillips
In fact, she said to avoid hospitals UNTIL you have serious breathing problems.
Joseph Stewart
Coronavirus is deadly. The netherlands are severely underprepared for the impact of the coronavirus. You are already at full ICU capacity and just beginning to have the first days of rising numbers. Don't underestimate coronavirus, stay inside your house, protect those you love, even the young ones. Grazie, è una situazione di merda e non so manco bene perché scrivo qua, però è una cosa agghiacciante e non riesco a capire. Cosa ci guadagna uno a scrivere queste stronzate? vabbè Thanks. The Hospital is not a COVID center, but we have two subintensive aisles with 24 beds already full of COVID patients or suspected ones and also an external container for those patients who are covid + but slightly healthier. So far we are holding up, but I know other Roman hospitals (Spallanzani, Sant'Andrea, Tor Vergata) that are already overcrowded.
Luke Gray
I’m not American and I’m not Spanish.
I don’t have or need to prove you anything, if you don’t want to believe it’s not my problem.
Austin Richardson
>She Just an impulsive woman creating drama like usual. Opinion discarded.
Michael Reed
I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Did you get tested?
Easton Brown
>worse than you can imagine This is 4ch buddy.
Jordan Ramirez
Doesn't anwser my question. OP is obviously larping. Why would you make people more scared on purpose?
Benjamin King
That conforms with all the front line reports from Italy. One doctor said she hadn't even seen anyone recover once intubated, it seems to just delay the inevitable.
All this panic about not having enough ventilators and they barely even help.
The only thing I question is anti-malaria treatment not working, there are multiple, independent reports in different regions claiming it works.
I don’t want to fear monger, I want to inform. That’s it.
Camden Ramirez
Nope. I smoked though last night, and I usually get dyspenia after smoking for 1-2 days.
Could be corona though.
Gabriel Rodriguez
The only thing they had in common, AFAIK, is that they are both male. For some reason coronavirus is deadlier to men. The autopsy for the first one has been executed this morning and confirmed our fears- no preexisting conditions. The boy, Emiliano Renzi, was 100% healthy before the COV. We are waiting for the other one's autopsy. I can't imagine the grief of their family.
Jacob Sullivan
Call your hospital and tell em your situation. They should take your info and they will say to you to monitor the situation and to call them only if things will get much worse. Call 911 only if you will really start to fight to breathe. Tell your family and/or nearest friend so they look up on you in case.
Luke Howard
You moron... Stop wasting time then.
Alexander Russell
>spain >in perfect english
Jace Evans
just because you re some mistery meat latino that speaks english doesnt mean that spanish people do it as well, you would know this if you have ever been there mutt
Austin Turner
>The netherlands are severely underprepared for the impact of the coronavirus.
In fact they are getting anal raped by it. It’s gonna be ogre in that little, overpopulated and slightly arrogant country.
Jonathan Myers
>nothingburger Why do americans keep speaking like 5 year olds?
Brayden Collins
Its a nothingburger. The actual cases are several orders higher than confirmed cases. Making mortality more lik 0.6%. If retards rush the ER for a severe cold its because they are manipulated into being weak and afraid.
Why aren't your magic socialist utopias with open borders to nigger muslims not protecting you?
David Martin
But the point is that Coronavirus IS scary, and we don't fully understand it yet. Kaletra, Plaquenil and other antivirals aren't working; NIV is useless and guidelines are against it, invasive ventilation and intubation are just delaying the outcom in many cases. This is not fearmongering; people has to know how terrible the situation is and how dangerous this disease actually is. It's not just a flu.
Dominic Phillips
The Chinese Virus is nothingburger. Cope you inbred moor.
Jordan Evans
> shill posting larping and accusing people who don't buy his shit of being shills they are not even hiding it anymore
Charles Cruz
>The Hospital is not a COVID center, but we have two subintensive aisles with 24 beds already full of COVID patients
If you have a chance, and since you are a 4channer, see if you have any chance to post some shots, so you make happy these fucking apes who keep screaming “nothingburger”
Cooper Flores
I know about 10 people that this exact thing happened to in Dec/Nov....interesting...
Zachary Miller
Its not scary, and we do understand it.
You are just gullible and afraid. Just stay home for a month and cry into your pillow
Grayson Gray
there is something else at play here milan is devastated but time isn't beijing is ok but wuhan gets assblasted cases in california since february but things are ok, while new york only just got its first case in march and it's a shit show there now. and new orlando is blowing up already after just getting its first case like a week ago.
how come some places explode while others seem to fair ok?
could it be coronavirus interactive with a native, endemic virus producing much more severe disease?
Grayson Mitchell
But you're larping
Elijah Davis
What a moron you must be
Xavier Turner
The burden of proof is in you, shareblue kike faggot.
Get photos from your alleged doctor friend, or literally slit your own throat with a kitchen knife and kill yourself.
WHEN OP DOESNT POST PROOF, WHAT DO WE DO?
SAGE A G E
OP IS A NIGGER KIKE FAGGOT
Elijah Ortiz
I breathe through my mouth for ten years.
John Fisher
And, buddy?
Luis Young
This country needs a dose of real leftism to teach them the cancer that it is. And I would never rely on the government to protect me even if it was far right. Relying on governments is a weakness in itself.
You really can't express in any other way? You really need to say "haha le nothingburger x)" like a goddamn 5 year old? Seriously, what kind of fucking word is "nothingburger"? What's with this obsession of infantilizing everything you Americans have?
Brody Ross
I'm not scared. It is overhyped. Still watch out with spreading it, but the fearmongers are to exteme
Sebastian Wood
Fat amerimutts realize now that this is not a joke. what a time to be alive.
Julian Hall
I told my doctor cousin my symptoms and he said it's probably corona. Told me to isolate and drink lots of water and sorum.
Is it it over boyos? My dyspenia got slightly worse.
Someone please tell me if i'm dead or if i'm gonna live.
Luke Johnson
I answered to you, retard, but you won’t like it.
Jaxon Butler
Lol, fuck off. You need evidence to back up a claim or it can easily be dismissed.
Michael Thompson
Prove this isn't a LARP.
The young and healthy are NOT at risk. It's already been shown that about 80% of infected show only mild or no symptoms. And that the average age of death in Italy is 80. That's the AVERAGE.
Yes, young people die, but very few and ONLY those with underlying conditions like diabetes, cancer, CVD, or those in incredibly poor health such as the morbidly obese and drug addicts.
Your source is either phony or a hyperbolic fool. Considering your source is a woman, I could go either way.
Chase Phillips
Flag checks out
Blake Jenkins
Why u believe the Spanish Communist Moor-Inbred Government about the numbers of deaths and infected? They have problably more deaths than Italy
Easton Williams
Hes bullshit you monkey. Anyone going to the hospital for flu symptoms is the problem. You gullible lot are so fucking scared because you don't understand how the lethality numbers have been inflated by counting only confirmed cases. You are cunts, crying over a nothingburger that is killing people like the flu does yearly.
Jayden Kelly
Unless you are old is going to be fine. now take care of yourself.
Tyler Rogers
>The only thing I question is anti-malaria treatment not working, there are multiple, independent reports in different regions claiming it works.
Well I hope you are goddamn right.
Dylan Collins
>ITT agenda21fags on suicide watch
William Sanders
It’s a nothing burger you pathetic Zoomer.
Matthew Rivera
This
Mason Wood
>so much of a nothingburger you have to shill your happening You got two weeks more at best, faggot
Charles Perez
>larping >fearmongering >make people scared on purpose
Fuck you faggot. Stop being a weakling
SAGE
Luis Kelly
Wow such knowledge of my country you probably are very very smart!
James Peterson
I appreciate you telling us. We have a lot of people ITT who are saying ignorant things, but u know that’s normal and they are in denial.
It’s good you are getting the word out and trying to help. If one person takes you seriously and acts differently towards this then that is a success with potentially life saving consequence (they don’t spread it either)
Jordan Taylor
Unironically I've known most of this from mid-January because of fucking Yas Forums >tfw more informed than world's top elite doctors and strategists
Adam Thompson
Should I go for a run? To exercise the diafragm and lung muscles?
Isaac James
Fuck you, I'm a medical doctor working actively on the field while you spout shit online. I've been studying and fighting coronavirus non-stop for the last month. I work 12 hours a day in the emergency room of the biggest italian city. Your words are meaningless and sad. You should be. I hope you will not regret your idiocy sooner or later.
Lincoln Young
Because American hospitals are know for infections and other sick people.
Aiden Brown
There is literally a first-hand witness in this thread contradicting you.
Michael Bell
>It's not just a flu. Of course it's not, every "nothingburger" retard spewing this retarded shit just put out there what big retarded piece of shit he is. The "flu" is short for influenza (-virus) family of virsues, SARS-Cov-2 comes from the CORONAvirus family, not influenzavirus family.
P.S. Reminder that the then novel Spanish influenzavirus of 1918-20 killed tens of millions of people. It was the "flu" just then as well, before we got immunity to it.
You'll be fine bro. Huge majority of cases are minor. Listen to your cousin.
Colton Howard
If a young fit guy with dyspenia appeared at your hospital, what is the chance that he'd live and he'd die?
Daniel Ward
Just want to point out that even if this IS true, I have doctor friends/acquaintances, and they are pathologically addicted to complaining about working conditions and people's health even in the best of times.
If you work in medicine you basically have an insanely demanding physical job that also requires knowledge and expertise, you are surrounded by the sick, dying and dead, and people are always dying due to limited resources, poor lifestyle habits, etc..
I'm not denying that COVID is indeed draining resources and causing a struggle, but I think medicine attracts and/or creates a blackpilled, fatalistic worldview that is coloring all of these front-line reports.
It's like how people get COVID and talk about it being "worse than death," then they give their symptoms of fever, coughing and joint pain, and you realize these are the same people who exaggerate every illness they ever have into a life-or-death struggle against the grim reaper himself.
Blake Jenkins
Nigger, conspiracy theories run rampant around here and people believe anything just people some people posted it without any proof given. Never rely on Yas Forums for real life issues, if you do, you are fucking stupid.
Carson Phillips
You should only do what your doctor tells you user. im sorry i cant help you with advice.
Connor Bell
Let me break it down for you: Not everyone in this world is an ignorant retard who only speaks one language.
Aiden Thompson
Its nice seeing a schizo fucktard like you getting owned by a doctor. At least you believe it now
Carson Gomez
>Spanish doctor >texting in english
Jaxson Phillips
Thanks for posting this, faggot like OP.
Now I don't have to worry about this fakenews hoax virus because your post gave me cancer.
Blake Jones
Its nothingburger because you are using an articficially deflated denominator when calculating lethality in order to scare people. So when they get a fever and sneeze they rush to the hospital for a test. This shit will have peaked and passed by June. Go ahead and screencap this. If you havent killed every socialist and muslim in your country by december kys