ICU Doctor in Spain

Since there’s still a lot of mentally enslaved morons (plus a bunch of shills) who claim this is a nothingburger, I’m reposting my WhatsApp convos from last Thursday March 19 and Friday March 20 with my friend who is a physician in Spain.
She is not an ICU doctor normally, but she was “drafted” by her hospital to assist with Corona patients.

Also, after the chat on Friday we talked at length on the phone and she told me this:
1) There is no cure. Anti-malaria therapy isn’t working. Anti-virals aren’t working. Interferone based treatment isn’t working.
2) Fatalities are mostly old folks, but not all of them. A few young patients, too. People get to the hospital, get intubated, get sedated, and die. Hundreds a day.
3) People in ICU usually die around the 8th day after the first symptoms. They die alone, mostly while sleeping. They cannot see their families and their families cannot say adios to them.
4) Lungs of people who die appear white at the X-rays.
5) People who were young and apparently healthy, died. There seems to be no correlation between a person’s health and his/her chance to survive once in ICU.
6) About 70% of the patients that are placed in ICU, die.

She suggested to avoid hospitals and doctors’ offices unless getting sick with severely impaired breathing. She said some of her colleagues are very sick.

Good luck everyone.

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twitter.com/philbak1/status/1242884995733245960
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twitter.com/AnonBabble

Chat on Friday 20

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im moving away from my family awhile, cause i work at the hospital. Makes me sad but i want to protect them

Which state? How’s the situation at your hospital? Thank you and stay strong.

Fake and gay. Post her credentials. Sounds hyperbole. It’s bad but not that bad. Need more proof.

>Look mom I posted it again

I don’t give a fuck of your needs, faggot.

Get out of here if you have nothing intelligent to reply.

Shit in your head

Post this to her for shits and giggles.

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vids of people dying or it didn't happen

CA. We have run out of PPE. The supply chains have broken down. They sent letters to the communty asking them to make cotton masks and send them into the hospital. Patient in the ICU are young. Average age is around 40.

shit thread OP, you're trying too hard.

Just boomers die?

What city?

Larping faggot

If this is true I think I had it in December.
Kept coughing, could hardly breathe, was breathless, high fever and drugs weren't working much.
Slept it off, but the cough stayed around for weeks as if it attacked my lungs, coughed up fluid for ages, only the past few weeks it's almost fully cleared up.

Go and ask her, moron.

“Hey, can you start filming dying people during your next shift at the ICU?
Don’t mind if someone sees it, it’s just to post it on a public message board, make sure your badge is visible”

Faggot

Larpers get the rope first

oh luk this again

>40

That fucking worrisome. My friend didn’t give a % of the age breakdown but said that it’s “very rare that young ones die”.

However 70% of al those who end up in ICU in her hospital, die.
SEVENTY per cent.

Again, stay strong.

OP is a fag

That’s what your wife says every night.

Or maybe what your mom used to say to your dad since you probably don’t have a wife nor a girlfriend.

Fake and gay. And op is even gayer. Get coofed on.

Go suck a tranny dick, piece of shit

The rope will be in your ass before around my neck, faggot.

SHUT UP PHAGGOT

I don't think it is it. I mean it's possibly, first recorded cases started getting reported in September/October to November. Hard to pinpoint exactly when this shit started due to multiple sources claiming different dates. But it didn't start in December at that market, for sure before those were reported. But did you really get it and made it trough? Hmm.

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SHIT CUNT

Shoot yourself monkey

>in times like this, has time to answer OP's stupid questions that we already know the answer
>Spanish speaking english

fuck you and your larp

I can't believe there are people that deny the vastity of the coronavirus threat. I am an italian medical doctor working in the emergency room of one of Rome's hospitals and while here is not as severe as is in the north of Italy the situation is almost out of control. We lost two young and sane men respectively 34 and 33 years old in the last few days. The situation is dire.

>first recorded cases started getting reported in September/October to November.


Reported. Exactly. This shit may have been around Wuhan since last summer, for what we know.

The reason I think I might have had it is because at the time I worked at a hotel and we had a lot of Chinese guests, one in particular was coughing but at the time I thought it was just a normal illness, so I didn't bother too much, it's only when this became international news I thought back to my symptoms and the guy coughing.

Portuguese monkey cannot believe a doctor in Spain speaks English.
Even if ne doesn’t know the doctor’s nationality.

Portugal - the most retarded country in EU.

so you admit you are a larper?

Tfw no picture proof

OP IS A MASSIVE FAGGOT
SAGE GOES IN ALL FEELS
KYS FAGGOT KIKE NIGGER OP

Ti capisco molto bene ma che ci vuoi fare, mezzi sono shills pagati e l’altra metà sono cretini patentati.

Stay strong. Feel free to add more of your personal experience at the hospital.

Ciao

Looks like a LARP but probably accurate anyways.

>I worked at a hotel and we had a lot of Chinese guests,
Ah yes of course. Well let's hope it doesn't come with new surprises later down the line as some reports claim.

LARP confirmed. Why would one fearmonger and spread lies about a 'deadly' virus?

Did those two 33 and 34 years old patients have anything in common? Like a pre-existing condition? Anything?

Nice LARP, faggot
You have to go back

I admit you suck cocks on a daily basis while your mother gets gangbanged by niggers

>I’m reposting my WhatsApp
You don't have a cell phone? Liar.

>People get to the hospital,
Shouldnt ever do this.

KYS, do a favor to the world

prove me that u are an americunt and not a communist spanish government worker

I’m not larping

I posted on this same thread a few days ago about my dyspenia

It got worse. What do I do? Is it over for me?

I'm breathing through my mouth sometimes because I can't get enough air through my nose.

You are wrong

Why fearmonger?

This may be one of the stupidest reply so far.
Really what is your IQ, 65?

In fact, she said to avoid hospitals UNTIL you have serious breathing problems.

Coronavirus is deadly. The netherlands are severely underprepared for the impact of the coronavirus. You are already at full ICU capacity and just beginning to have the first days of rising numbers. Don't underestimate coronavirus, stay inside your house, protect those you love, even the young ones.
Grazie, è una situazione di merda e non so manco bene perché scrivo qua, però è una cosa agghiacciante e non riesco a capire. Cosa ci guadagna uno a scrivere queste stronzate? vabbè
Thanks. The Hospital is not a COVID center, but we have two subintensive aisles with 24 beds already full of COVID patients or suspected ones and also an external container for those patients who are covid + but slightly healthier. So far we are holding up, but I know other Roman hospitals (Spallanzani, Sant'Andrea, Tor Vergata) that are already overcrowded.

I’m not American and I’m not Spanish.

I don’t have or need to prove you anything, if you don’t want to believe it’s not my problem.

>She
Just an impulsive woman creating drama like usual. Opinion discarded.

I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Did you get tested?

>worse than you can imagine
This is 4ch buddy.

Doesn't anwser my question. OP is obviously larping. Why would you make people more scared on purpose?

That conforms with all the front line reports from Italy. One doctor said she hadn't even seen anyone recover once intubated, it seems to just delay the inevitable.

All this panic about not having enough ventilators and they barely even help.

The only thing I question is anti-malaria treatment not working, there are multiple, independent reports in different regions claiming it works.

E.g. twitter.com/philbak1/status/1242884995733245960

I don’t want to fear monger, I want to inform. That’s it.

Nope. I smoked though last night, and I usually get dyspenia after smoking for 1-2 days.

Could be corona though.

The only thing they had in common, AFAIK, is that they are both male. For some reason coronavirus is deadlier to men. The autopsy for the first one has been executed this morning and confirmed our fears- no preexisting conditions. The boy, Emiliano Renzi, was 100% healthy before the COV. We are waiting for the other one's autopsy. I can't imagine the grief of their family.

Call your hospital and tell em your situation. They should take your info and they will say to you to monitor the situation and to call them only if things will get much worse. Call 911 only if you will really start to fight to breathe. Tell your family and/or nearest friend so they look up on you in case.

You moron... Stop wasting time then.

>spain
>in perfect english

just because you re some mistery meat latino that speaks english doesnt mean that spanish people do it as well, you would know this if you have ever been there mutt

>The netherlands are severely underprepared for the impact of the coronavirus.

In fact they are getting anal raped by it. It’s gonna be ogre in that little, overpopulated and slightly arrogant country.

>nothingburger
Why do americans keep speaking like 5 year olds?

Its a nothingburger.
The actual cases are several orders higher than confirmed cases. Making mortality more lik 0.6%.
If retards rush the ER for a severe cold its because they are manipulated into being weak and afraid.

propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients

Why aren't your magic socialist utopias with open borders to nigger muslims not protecting you?

But the point is that Coronavirus IS scary, and we don't fully understand it yet. Kaletra, Plaquenil and other antivirals aren't working; NIV is useless and guidelines are against it, invasive ventilation and intubation are just delaying the outcom in many cases. This is not fearmongering; people has to know how terrible the situation is and how dangerous this disease actually is. It's not just a flu.

The Chinese Virus is nothingburger. Cope you inbred moor.

> shill posting larping and accusing people who don't buy his shit of being shills
they are not even hiding it anymore

>The Hospital is not a COVID center, but we have two subintensive aisles with 24 beds already full of COVID patients

If you have a chance, and since you are a 4channer, see if you have any chance to post some shots, so you make happy these fucking apes who keep screaming “nothingburger”

I know about 10 people that this exact thing happened to in Dec/Nov....interesting...

Its not scary, and we do understand it.

You are just gullible and afraid. Just stay home for a month and cry into your pillow

there is something else at play here
milan is devastated but time isn't
beijing is ok but wuhan gets assblasted
cases in california since february but things are ok, while new york only just got its first case in march and it's a shit show there now. and new orlando is blowing up already after just getting its first case like a week ago.

how come some places explode while others seem to fair ok?

could it be coronavirus interactive with a native, endemic virus producing much more severe disease?

But you're larping

What a moron you must be

The burden of proof is in you, shareblue kike faggot.

Get photos from your alleged doctor friend, or literally slit your own throat with a kitchen knife and kill yourself.

WHEN OP DOESNT POST PROOF, WHAT DO WE DO?

SAGE
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OP IS A NIGGER KIKE FAGGOT

I breathe through my mouth for ten years.

And, buddy?

This country needs a dose of real leftism to teach them the cancer that it is.
And I would never rely on the government to protect me even if it was far right.
Relying on governments is a weakness in itself.

You really can't express in any other way?
You really need to say "haha le nothingburger x)" like a goddamn 5 year old?
Seriously, what kind of fucking word is "nothingburger"?
What's with this obsession of infantilizing everything you Americans have?

I'm not scared. It is overhyped. Still watch out with spreading it, but the fearmongers are to exteme

Fat amerimutts realize now that this is not a joke. what a time to be alive.

I told my doctor cousin my symptoms and he said it's probably corona. Told me to isolate and drink lots of water and sorum.

Is it it over boyos? My dyspenia got slightly worse.

Someone please tell me if i'm dead or if i'm gonna live.

I answered to you, retard, but you won’t like it.

Lol, fuck off.
You need evidence to back up a claim or it can easily be dismissed.

Prove this isn't a LARP.

The young and healthy are NOT at risk. It's already been shown that about 80% of infected show only mild or no symptoms. And that the average age of death in Italy is 80. That's the AVERAGE.

Yes, young people die, but very few and ONLY those with underlying conditions like diabetes, cancer, CVD, or those in incredibly poor health such as the morbidly obese and drug addicts.

Your source is either phony or a hyperbolic fool. Considering your source is a woman, I could go either way.

Flag checks out

Why u believe the Spanish Communist Moor-Inbred Government about the numbers of deaths and infected? They have problably more deaths than Italy

Hes bullshit you monkey. Anyone going to the hospital for flu symptoms is the problem.
You gullible lot are so fucking scared because you don't understand how the lethality numbers have been inflated by counting only confirmed cases.
You are cunts, crying over a nothingburger that is killing people like the flu does yearly.

Unless you are old is going to be fine. now take care of yourself.

>The only thing I question is anti-malaria treatment not working, there are multiple, independent reports in different regions claiming it works.

Well I hope you are goddamn right.

>ITT agenda21fags on suicide watch

It’s a nothing burger you pathetic Zoomer.

This

>so much of a nothingburger you have to shill your happening
You got two weeks more at best, faggot

>larping
>fearmongering
>make people scared on purpose

Fuck you faggot. Stop being a weakling

SAGE

Wow such knowledge of my country you probably are very very smart!

I appreciate you telling us. We have a lot of people ITT who are saying ignorant things, but u know that’s normal and they are in denial.

It’s good you are getting the word out and trying to help. If one person takes you seriously and acts differently towards this then that is a success with potentially life saving consequence (they don’t spread it either)

Unironically I've known most of this from mid-January because of fucking Yas Forums
>tfw more informed than world's top elite doctors and strategists

Should I go for a run? To exercise the diafragm and lung muscles?

Fuck you, I'm a medical doctor working actively on the field while you spout shit online. I've been studying and fighting coronavirus non-stop for the last month. I work 12 hours a day in the emergency room of the biggest italian city. Your words are meaningless and sad. You should be. I hope you will not regret your idiocy sooner or later.

Because American hospitals are know for infections and other sick people.

There is literally a first-hand witness in this thread contradicting you.

>It's not just a flu.
Of course it's not, every "nothingburger" retard spewing this retarded shit just put out there what big retarded piece of shit he is. The "flu" is short for influenza (-virus) family of virsues, SARS-Cov-2 comes from the CORONAvirus family, not influenzavirus family.

P.S. Reminder that the then novel Spanish influenzavirus of 1918-20 killed tens of millions of people. It was the "flu" just then as well, before we got immunity to it.

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You'll be fine bro. Huge majority of cases are minor. Listen to your cousin.

If a young fit guy with dyspenia appeared at your hospital, what is the chance that he'd live and he'd die?

Just want to point out that even if this IS true, I have doctor friends/acquaintances, and they are pathologically addicted to complaining about working conditions and people's health even in the best of times.

If you work in medicine you basically have an insanely demanding physical job that also requires knowledge and expertise, you are surrounded by the sick, dying and dead, and people are always dying due to limited resources, poor lifestyle habits, etc..

I'm not denying that COVID is indeed draining resources and causing a struggle, but I think medicine attracts and/or creates a blackpilled, fatalistic worldview that is coloring all of these front-line reports.

It's like how people get COVID and talk about it being "worse than death," then they give their symptoms of fever, coughing and joint pain, and you realize these are the same people who exaggerate every illness they ever have into a life-or-death struggle against the grim reaper himself.

Nigger, conspiracy theories run rampant around here and people believe anything just people some people posted it without any proof given.
Never rely on Yas Forums for real life issues, if you do, you are fucking stupid.

You should only do what your doctor tells you user. im sorry i cant help you with advice.

Let me break it down for you: Not everyone in this world is an ignorant retard who only speaks one language.

Its nice seeing a schizo fucktard like you getting owned by a doctor. At least you believe it now

>Spanish doctor
>texting in english

Thanks for posting this, faggot like OP.

Now I don't have to worry about this fakenews hoax virus because your post gave me cancer.

Its nothingburger because you are using an articficially deflated denominator when calculating lethality in order to scare people. So when they get a fever and sneeze they rush to the hospital for a test.
This shit will have peaked and passed by June.
Go ahead and screencap this. If you havent killed every socialist and muslim in your country by december kys

its over

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>some literally who eurobeaner woman is having a meltdown working in the ICU
Wow, the world is collapsing over a cold